[gmx-users] GPU/CPU load imbalance

2015-07-06 Thread Pappu Kumar
I have 3x GTX 970 for 1x Intel i7-5820K with X99-E WS motherboard to remove 
PCIe limitations. So I have 4 threads/gpu and I face load imbalances. 

I am wondering if it will be a good idea to use reaction-field instead of PME 
in order to reduce the processor load (It would be less accurate). Let me know 
if you have any suggestions for proper load balancing. Thank you.

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Re: [gmx-users] GPU/CPU load imbalance

2015-07-07 Thread Pappu Kumar
The GPU has much less load than CPU. Could you please give me some idea how to 
port code to GPU? Thank you. 


 On Tuesday, 7 July 2015 2:26 AM, Szilárd Páll  
wrote:
   

 What kind of load imbalance? I assume you are referring to CPU-GPU imbalance 
as your runs are CPU-bound. In that case the only thing that helps is either 
porting code to CUDA or a faster CPU.
Reaction field electrostatics will help too in getting better performance in 
CPU-bound runs, but beware that you'll have to justify the choice of deviating 
form the most established way of treating electrostatics!
--
Szilárd
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Pappu Kumar  wrote:

I have 3x GTX 970 for 1x Intel i7-5820K with X99-E WS motherboard to remove 
PCIe limitations. So I have 4 threads/gpu and I face load imbalances.

I am wondering if it will be a good idea to use reaction-field instead of PME 
in order to reduce the processor load (It would be less accurate). Let me know 
if you have any suggestions for proper load balancing. Thank you.



  
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[gmx-users] forced conformational change by MD

2016-09-01 Thread Pappu Kumar
I want to run MD to simulate conformational change from one protein structure 
to another. But I am not sure how do that in gromacs. It would be like doing 
morphing through MD and see what kind of changed take place around the protein. 
Thank you.

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[gmx-users] AVX vs AVX2

2014-08-12 Thread Pappu Kumar
I am planning to buy an Intel Haswell-E 5820 processor which supports AVX2. I 
am wondering if it will have better performance than i7 4930K which supports 
AVX. Thank you.
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[gmx-users] GPU vs Processor load

2014-08-18 Thread Pappu Kumar
I want to run one simulation in GTX 780Ti utilizing six threads of overclocked 
Haswell-E 5820. So I will be running two simulations in my computer using two 
780Ti. The system size varies between 60k to 300k atoms. My question is if six 
threads will be good enough to keep the balance between CPU and GPU load. Or I 
should go for a slower GPU like GTX 780 to keep the balance. Thanks.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Pappu Kumar  wrote:
>Thanks for your info. I am planning to buy one upcoming Haswell E-5820K to 
>>use with 2x GTX 780Ti if feasible. So there will be six threads/GPU. I am 
>>wondering if it will be good enough or I should go for 2x GTX 780.  Did you 
>mean the other way around, the 780Ti is considerable faster
than the 780? What kind of systems/simulations will you be running? If you plan 
to
use the machine for single runs and/or relatively small sysmtes, a
single 780 Ti may be better. That's because at the moment in v4.6/5.0
you need domain-decomposition to use >=2 GPUs and due to the initial
domain-decomposition overhead (1 to 2 domains), the scaling from one
to two GPUs is OK, but not great (and typically the smaller the
simulation system the worse). We are working on making it possible to use 
multiple GPUs within a
node without domain-decomposition for the next version. >I have >plans to 
overclock the CPUs by 10-20%.  That should work quite well. --
Szilárd >>On Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:11 PM, Szilárd Páll  >wrote: >>>Yes, it definitely will. The difference will be quite 
pronounced in >CPU-only runs, but if you use a GPU this will shrink and could 
become >relatively small depending on the turbo/frequency scaling settings 
>you'll use. >-- >Szilárd >>>On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Pappu Kumar 
 wrote: >>I am planning to buy an Intel Haswell-E 5820 
processor which supports >>AVX2. I am wondering if it will have better 
performance than i7 4930K which >>supports AVX. Thank you.
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[gmx-users] Performance of GTX 980 and 970

2014-09-29 Thread Pappu Kumar
I am wondering if anyone tested the performance of new GTX 980 and 970 cards 
and compared to 780/780Ti/Titan using the input systems given here: 
http://www.gromacs.org/GPU_acceleration Thank you.
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[gmx-users] Performance of GTX 980 and 970

2014-09-29 Thread Pappu Kumar
Thank you for your info. I am planning to buy a computer with the following 
configuration:

Intel 5820K
Corsair H100i Hydro Cooling Performance
MSI X99 SLI Plus
Fractal Design R4
Seasonic X 1050W 

I am wondering if it would be a good idea to go for 3x GTX 970 instead of 2x 
GTX 980 since the cost is the same. Thank you. 
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Re: [gmx-users] Performance of GTX 980 and 970

2014-10-01 Thread Pappu Kumar
I am planning to buy 2x GTX 970 for 5820K overclocked to 4.5 GHz. I have budget 
limitations and not able to afford workstations with 2x CPUs. Let me know if 
you are aware of any cheaper alternative. 


Also let me know if in future Gromacs could become more GPU intensive allowing 
more GPUs with one CPU. Thank you.



On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 5:18 PM, Szilárd Páll  
wrote:
 


The 6-core Intel CPUs have only 28 PCI-E lanes rather than 40 like the
5830K/5860X which means that with a second GPU you'll get x16/x8 and
with three GPUs x8/x8/x8.

Also note that for the current GROMACS implementation, pairing a 5820K
with two 980s will likely give a rather imbalanced hardware setup -
with three 970s even more so (at least for common types of run
setups). Depending on the exact use case, you may be able to make good
use of 2-3 GPUs even with just a 5820K (e.g. in multi runs, one per
GPU) or setups with long cut-off (or without PME), but otherwise you
may not see much benefit from a second GPU, let alone a third.

--
Szilárd



On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Pappu Kumar  wrote:
> Thank you for your info. I am planning to buy a computer with the following 
> configuration:
>
> Intel 5820K
> Corsair H100i Hydro Cooling Performance
> MSI X99 SLI Plus
> Fractal Design R4
> Seasonic X 1050W
>
> I am wondering if it would be a good idea to go for 3x GTX 970 instead of 2x 
> GTX 980 since the cost is the same. Thank you.
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[gmx-users] load imbalance: putting more load on GPU than CPU

2015-01-27 Thread Pappu Kumar
I have 4 cpu threads available for one GTX970 card. This causes load imbalance 
i.e. the GPU has less load than CPU. I am wondering if it will be possible to 
put more load on the GPU. Thank you.

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[gmx-users] Effect of a single mutation in a protein

2014-03-26 Thread Pappu Kumar
I did 50 ns MD simulation of WT and mutant protein in gromacs with 
Amber ff99sb. The mutation alters the function of the protein. The RMSD 
and RMSF differences in WT and mutant are <1 A. I also calculated the change in 
entropy of the water molecules around 4 A by 
Schilter's formula which seems to change in case of the mutation. Let me know 
how to 
calculate the H-bonding lifetime of the water during the simulation. 
Further I plotted the PC1 of C-alpha atoms of WT with the PC1 of the 
mutant. I am wondering if it makes sense to compare PC1 from different 
trajectories. Please suggest me some possible analysis. Thank you. 
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[gmx-users] Effect of a single mutation in a protein

2014-03-26 Thread Pappu Kumar
I have already used g_hbond. I am not sure how accurate is the H-bond lifetime 
calculation. Also the trajectory snapshots need to be saved quite often. Could 
you tell me how to interpret output from g_hbond -ac :

@ s0 legend "Ac\sfin sys\v{}\z{}(t)"
@ s1 legend "Ac(t)"
@ s2 legend "Cc\scontact,hb\v{}\z{}(t)"
@ s3 legend "-dAc\sfs\v{}\z{}/dt"

Could you tell me how to  project the configurations of the mutant simulation 
on WT PC1? Are you aware of any paper where I can read more about it? Can I 
compare the PC1 vs PC2 in case of WT and mutant?


I am trying to find out how such mutation buried inside the protein away from 
the ligand binding pocket can influence the function of the protein. I actually 
see some changes in the positon of the bound ATP in the mutant compared to the 
WT. But I am not sure how reliable it is due to the inaccuracies in 
parameterization. 


I also calculated the Gibbs free energy landscape by g_sham using Rg and RMSD. 
The value varies from 0-6.5 kJ/mol in both cases but the regions with ~0 kJ/mol 
has changed. 


Thank you.
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[gmx-users] Checking the possibility of one complex out of possible two

2014-03-27 Thread Pappu Kumar
I got two long protein complexes made out of 20 monomers of ~300 residues. But 
only one complex exists biologically. I am trying to find out the energetically 
favourable complex by MD simulation in gromacs 4.6.5. Initially I took out a 
dimer from the complexes and ran steepest descent followed by L-BFGS 
minimization . Although the total energy was lower in one dimer, after the 
L-BFGS, the energy was similar. 

Then I ran 50ns MD simulation and calculated the interaction energies between 
the monomers which is similar in both cases. The idea was that in the wrong 
confomation the interaction energy would be lower. 

Now I am wondering how to find out the correct conformation between the two 
possibilites. I also checked the free energy of solvation which is different in 
both cases. I am not sure if it is a clear indicator of stability since entropy 
is not taken into account. Let me know if you have any ideas. I am planning to 
run coarse grained simulations in MARTINI.  Thank you.
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Re: [gmx-users] Effect of a single mutation in a protein

2014-03-27 Thread Pappu Kumar
Thank you. Regarding g_anaeig, I basically took the eigenvectors of C-alpha 
atoms of one trajectory and then projected the other trajectory on it.

I obtained the ATP parameters from a paper. Like all simulations, MD has some 
limitations. So I don't want to highlight the things which may not be correct. 

There is no unfolding. Also the gibbs energy surface projected on PC1 and PC2 
looks quite different than RMSD vs. Rg surface calculated by g_sham (also the 
lowest energy structures.)


Can I calculate del del G by TI? I am not sure how to define the reaction 
coordinates. Is it a good idea to do umbrella sampling between two states to 
determine the free energy?


On Thursday, 27 March 2014 8:35 AM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
 


On 3/26/14, 2:24 PM, Pappu Kumar wrote:
> I have already used g_hbond. I am not sure how accurate is the H-bond 
> lifetime calculation. Also the trajectory snapshots need to be saved quite 
> often. Could you tell me how to interpret output from g_hbond -ac :
>

There should be references provided in the g_hbond output when calculating 
lifetimes.  At the very least, they're in the manual.  So you can determine for 
yourself how reliable the outcome is.

> @ s0 legend "Ac\sfin sys\v{}\z{}(t)"
> @ s1 legend "Ac(t)"
> @ s2 legend "Cc\scontact,hb\v{}\z{}(t)"
> @ s3 legend "-dAc\sfs\v{}\z{}/dt"
>

Plotting these data sets in XmGrace will clear things up.

> Could you tell me how to  project the configurations of the mutant simulation 
> on WT PC1? Are you aware of any paper where I can read more about it? Can I 
> compare the PC1 vs PC2 in case of WT and mutant?
>

See g_anaeig -h, as well as previous discussions in the list archive on doing 
this.

>
> I am trying to find out how such mutation buried inside the protein away from 
> the ligand binding pocket can influence the function of the protein. I 
> actually see some changes in the positon of the bound ATP in the mutant 
> compared to the WT. But I am not sure how reliable it is due to the 
> inaccuracies in parameterization.
>

Well, if your parametrization is inaccurate and you know it is, what use are 
the 
simulations?  Or are you just wondering if there is a possibility of 
inaccuracies?  Either way, that's something that should be sorted out long 
before doing any real simulations :)


>
> I also calculated the Gibbs free energy landscape by g_sham using Rg and 
> RMSD. The value varies from 0-6.5 kJ/mol in both cases but the regions with 
> ~0 kJ/mol has changed.
>

Do the proteins unfold?  If not, I doubt Rg vs. RMSD is a very sensitive metric 
of anything.  You can, of course, map back the locations of the energy minima 
to 
see if there are any interesting differences there, but such a plot (Rg vs. 
RMSD) is probably only useful in protein (un)folding simulations.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] simulation of a trimer

2014-03-29 Thread Pappu Kumar
I got a protein which undergoes conformational change during trimer formation. 
There is a cryoEM structure of the trimer. So I took the trimer structure and 
replaced one monomer with a monomer without conformational change. Then I ran a 
50 ns MD md simulation with Amber99sb FF in gromacs 4.6.5, restraining two 
other monomers expecting to see the conformational change in the other trimer. 
But there was no change in the monomer structure. 

Subsequently, I made all the monomers flexible and ran 50 ns MD. Now I can see 
the change in monomer structure. But it has become difficult to completely 
align the final structure from MD with the cryoEM structure. So I am wondering 
what so of analysis to do in order to show that the expected conformational 
change is taking place. For example calculating the angle between the center of 
masses of the monomers, PCA, mutual information etc. I was also thinking about 
using MARTINI to restrain two monomers by elastic network and then perturb the 
other one monomer to observe changes in the system. Thank you.
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Re: [gmx-users] Checking the possibility of one complex out of possible two

2014-03-31 Thread Pappu Kumar
In the two protein dimers, the location of one monomer is at the opposite side 
of the other monomer :

(| 0 and 0 |) 

when they are aligned (0 - common monomer, (| or |) the other monomer). So it 
would be hard to get the reaction coordinate for PMF calculation.

I am wondering if I can compare the free energy of decoupling from water of two 
dimers separately by TI (g_bar). Can I use the same techinique in case of a 
point mutation? Thank you.

On Friday, 28 March 2014 7:40 AM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
 



On 3/27/14, 1:59 PM, Pappu Kumar wrote:
> I got two long protein complexes made out of 20 monomers of ~300 residues.
> But only one complex exists biologically. I am trying to find out the
> energetically favourable complex by MD simulation in gromacs 4.6.5. Initially
> I took out a dimer from the complexes and ran steepest descent followed by
> L-BFGS minimization . Although the total energy was lower in one dimer, after
> the L-BFGS, the energy was similar.
>
> Then I ran 50ns MD simulation and calculated the interaction energies between
> the monomers which is similar in both cases. The idea was that in the wrong
> confomation the interaction energy would be lower.
>
> Now I am wondering how to find out the correct conformation between the two
> possibilites. I also checked the free energy of solvation which is different
> in both cases. I am not sure if it is a clear indicator of stability since
> entropy is not taken into account. Let me know if you have any ideas. I am
> planning to run coarse grained simulations in MARTINI.  Thank you.
>

Calculating an actual deltaG of binding (i.e. a PMF) between the two monomers 
is 
about the only legitimate way I can think of to do this.  The values of 
potential energy in a minimized structure are totally dependent on the force 
field, as are the nonbonded interaction energies, which (more importantly) 
aren't necessarily parametrized to be anything useful.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Checking the possibility of one complex out of possible two

2014-03-31 Thread Pappu Kumar
Decoupling seems only feasible for small ligands. I tried to decople a protein 
but the grompp does not converge. Could you tell me the maximum size of the 
molecule that is 
feasible for decoupling? I already calculated the free energy of 
solvation by APBS.

Now I am pulling out one monomer from the other in both cases and checking 
the PMF along the trajectory using your tutorial on umbrella sampling. 
Thanks. 
On Monday, 31 March 2014 8:06 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
 


On 3/31/14, 6:07 AM, Pappu Kumar wrote:
> In the two protein dimers, the location of one monomer is at the opposite side
> of the other monomer :
>
> (| 0 and 0 |)
>
> when they are aligned (0 - common monomer, (| or |) the other monomer). So it
> would be hard to get the reaction coordinate for PMF calculation.
>
> I am wondering if I can compare the free energy of decoupling from water of 
> two
> dimers separately by TI (g_bar). Can I use the same techinique in case of a
> point mutation? Thank you.
>

Doubtful.  Decoupling a whole protein is impractical from both a performance 
and 
analysis standpoint.  The simulations will probably never reach convergence and 
will sample a bunch of really unphysical states.  Something like MM/PBSA would 
be much more sensible.

-Justin

> On Friday, 28 March 2014 7:40 AM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
>
>
> On 3/27/14, 1:59 PM, Pappu Kumar wrote:
>  > I got two long protein complexes made out of 20 monomers of ~300 residues.
>  > But only one complex exists biologically. I am trying to find out the
>  > energetically favourable complex by MD simulation in gromacs 4.6.5. 
>Initially
>  > I took out a dimer from the complexes and ran steepest descent followed by
>  > L-BFGS minimization . Although the total energy was lower in one dimer, 
>after
>  > the L-BFGS, the energy was similar.
>  >
>  > Then I ran 50ns MD simulation and calculated the interaction energies 
>between
>  > the monomers which is similar in both cases. The idea was that in the wrong
>  > confomation the interaction energy would be lower.
>  >
>  > Now I am wondering how to find out the correct conformation between the two
>  > possibilites. I also checked the free energy of solvation which is 
>different
>  > in both cases. I am not sure if it is a clear indicator of stability since
>  > entropy is not taken into account. Let me know if you have any ideas. I am
>  > planning to run coarse grained simulations in MARTINI.  Thank you.
>
>  >
>
> Calculating an actual deltaG of binding (i.e. a PMF) between the two monomers 
> is
> about the only legitimate way I can think of to do this.  The values of
> potential energy in a minimized structure are totally dependent on the force
> field, as are the nonbonded interaction energies, which (more importantly)
> aren't necessarily parametrized to be anything useful.
>
> -Justin
>
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>
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> School of Pharmacy
> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
> University of Maryland, Baltimore
> 20 Penn St.
> Baltimore, MD 21201
>
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> (410) 706-7441
> http://mackerell.umaryland.edu/~jalemkul

>
>
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>
>

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[gmx-users] All-atom MD simulation of a protein at 323K and 283K

2014-05-08 Thread Pappu Kumar
I am trying to compare the stability of a protein from two organisms which live 
in the aforesaid temperature. I am wondering it would make sense to run MD 
simulation in gromacs with Amber99sb in these temperature since force field 
parameterization was carried out in room temperature. 

I am also thinking about running simulated annealing from 323K to 283K in order 
to compare the stability of the two proteins. Thank you.
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[gmx-users] Indicators of protein stability

2014-06-06 Thread Pappu Kumar
I am trying to find out why a protein from a thermophilic organism is more 
stable compared to the non-thermophilic organism although the sequence 
similarity is very high. So I conducted MD simulations in low and high 
temperatures. I am wondering which statistic would be good to define the 
stability (i.e. if there is any existing paper) apart from RMSD, RMSF, Rg and 
secondary structure. Thank you.
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