[gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear All users,

I have encounter this error:

-
Fatal error:
No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
--

I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
ewald method because

my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
suggestions?



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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear All users,

 I have encounter this error:

 -
 Fatal error:
 No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 --

 I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
 ewald method because

 my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
 suggestions?



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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear Mark,

Thank you for your reply.

When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME to

ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it
means the problem is related to

choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic
potential energy. What's your point on it?


-

Mark wrote:

Hi,

What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at
gmail.com https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
wrote:

* Dear All users,
** I have encounter this error:
** -
** Fatal error:
** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
** --
** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
** ewald method because
** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
** suggestions?
** --
** Sincerely
** Ali Alizadeh
** --*


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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
I performed an NVT simulation.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Mark,

 Thank you for your reply.

 When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME to

 ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it means 
 the problem is related to

 choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic potential 
 energy. What's your point on it?


 -

 Mark wrote:

 Hi,

 What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
 settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at 
 gmail.com 
 https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
 wrote:

 * Dear All users,
 *
 * I have encounter this error:
 ** -
 ** Fatal error:
 ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 ** --
 ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
 ** ewald method because
 ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
 ** suggestions?
 ** --
 ** Sincerely
 ** Ali Alizadeh
 *
 * --*


 --
 Sincerely

 Ali Alizadeh




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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Mark,

 Thank you for your reply.

 When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME to

 ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it means 
 the problem is related to

 choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic potential 
 energy. What's your point on it?


My point is that a flawed model physics, or a flawed system preparation,
can get lucky and run stably, or not. On the information given, there is no
reason to suppose that changing the kind of reciprocal-space approximation
is relevant. Last time I heard a report like this, the person had changed
various nonbonded settings to make things run faster, and in so doing
produced a junk model physics.

Mark


 -

 Mark wrote:

 Hi,

 What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
 settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at 
 gmail.com 
 https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
 wrote:

 * Dear All users,
 *
 * I have encounter this error:
 ** -
 ** Fatal error:
 ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 ** --
 ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
 ** ewald method because
 ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
 ** suggestions?
 ** --
 ** Sincerely
 ** Ali Alizadeh
 ** --*


 --
 Sincerely

 Ali Alizadeh

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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear Justin,

here is my mdp file:

title = Liquid CO2 NVT
; Run parameters
integrator = md-vv
nsteps = 200
dt = 0.001
emtol = 1.0
emstep  = 0.0001
; Output control
nstxout = 1000
nstvout = 1000
nstenergy = 1000
nstlog = 100
; Bond parameters
continuation = no
constraint_algorithm = lincs
constraints = all-bonds

; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid
nstlist = 5
rlist = 1.25
rcoulomb = 1.25
rvdw = 1.25
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = ewald
fourierspacing = 0.6
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl = nose-hoover
tc-grps = system
tau_t = 0.1
ref_t = 300
; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl = no
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = xyz ; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr = EnerPres
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp = 300
gen_seed = -1




On 6/4/14, 8:29 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:
 Dear Mark,

 In my first simulation we had these lines:

 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype= PME; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
 electrostatics
 pme_order= 4; cubic interpolation
 fourierspacing= 0.12; grid spacing for FFT

 ---

 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype= ewald; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
 electrostatics
 fourierspacing= 0.6; grid spacing for FFT

 -

 My system in 2nd case is equilibrated.


For anyone to make sense of what you're doing, you'll need to provide
complete
.mdp files (those settings are not the only determining factors of the
validity
of the model physics) and evidence of what you're deciding is equilibrated,
stable, etc (i.e. real numbers and output from whatever relevant analysis).

-Justin

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:




 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ali Alizadeh 
 ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Mark,

 Thank you for your reply.

 When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME
to

 ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it
means the problem is related to

 choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic
potential energy. What's your point on it?


 My point is that a flawed model physics, or a flawed system preparation,
 can get lucky and run stably, or not. On the information given, there is
no
 reason to suppose that changing the kind of reciprocal-space
approximation
 is relevant. Last time I heard a report like this, the person had changed
 various nonbonded settings to make things run faster, and in so doing
 produced a junk model physics.

 Mark


 -

 Mark wrote:

 Hi,

 What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
 settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at
gmail.com 
https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
 wrote:

 * Dear All users,
 *
 * I have encounter this error:
 ** -
 ** Fatal error:
 ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 ** --
 ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I
should use
 ** ewald method because
 ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are
there any
 ** suggestions?
 ** --
 ** Sincerely
 ** Ali Alizadeh
 ** --*


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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
Thanks for providing a small fraction of the information for which Justin
asked. You stand a much better chance of ever getting an answer from
volunteers if you provide more detail than you think could ever be
relevant. :-)

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Justin,

 here is my mdp file:

 title = Liquid CO2 NVT
 ; Run parameters
 integrator = md-vv
 nsteps = 200
 dt = 0.001
 emtol = 1.0
 emstep  = 0.0001
 ; Output control
 nstxout = 1000
 nstvout = 1000
 nstenergy = 1000
 nstlog = 100
 ; Bond parameters
 continuation = no
 constraint_algorithm = lincs
 constraints = all-bonds

 ; Neighborsearching
 ns_type = grid
 nstlist = 5
 rlist = 1.25
 rcoulomb = 1.25
 rvdw = 1.25
 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype = ewald
 fourierspacing = 0.6
 ; Temperature coupling is on
 tcoupl = nose-hoover
 tc-grps = system
 tau_t = 0.1
 ref_t = 300
 ; Pressure coupling is off
 pcoupl = no
 ; Periodic boundary conditions
 pbc = xyz ; 3-D PBC
 ; Dispersion correction
 DispCorr = EnerPres
 ; Velocity generation
 gen_vel = yes
 gen_temp = 300
 gen_seed = -1




 On 6/4/14, 8:29 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:
  Dear Mark,
 
  In my first simulation we had these lines:
 
  ; Electrostatics
  coulombtype= PME; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
  electrostatics
  pme_order= 4; cubic interpolation
  fourierspacing= 0.12; grid spacing for FFT
 
  ---
 
  ; Electrostatics
  coulombtype= ewald; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
  electrostatics
  fourierspacing= 0.6; grid spacing for FFT
 
  -
 
  My system in 2nd case is equilibrated.
 

 For anyone to make sense of what you're doing, you'll need to provide
 complete
 .mdp files (those settings are not the only determining factors of the
 validity
 of the model physics) and evidence of what you're deciding is equilibrated,
 stable, etc (i.e. real numbers and output from whatever relevant analysis).

 -Justin

  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ali Alizadeh 
  ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear Mark,
 
  Thank you for your reply.
 
  When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME
 to
 
  ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it
 means the problem is related to
 
  choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic
 potential energy. What's your point on it?
 
 
  My point is that a flawed model physics, or a flawed system preparation,
  can get lucky and run stably, or not. On the information given, there is
 no
  reason to suppose that changing the kind of reciprocal-space
 approximation
  is relevant. Last time I heard a report like this, the person had
 changed
  various nonbonded settings to make things run faster, and in so doing
  produced a junk model physics.
 
  Mark
 
 
  -
 
  Mark wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
  settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?
 
  Mark
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at
 gmail.com 
 https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
  wrote:
 
  * Dear All users,
  *
  * I have encounter this error:
  ** -
  ** Fatal error:
  ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
  ** --
  ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I
 should use
  ** ewald method because
  ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are
 there any
  ** suggestions?
  ** --
  ** Sincerely
  ** Ali Alizadeh
  ** --*
 

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