Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 1/10/17 4:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:

Thank You for your reply

The system under my study has positive charge. There are 3 positive charges
on the protein and one on drug molecule. How these charges will be handled.



Like any others.  A non-zero formal charge of a species does not preclude you 
from doing free energy calculations.


-Justin



On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:




On 1/9/17 2:31 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:


I got it.

I have looked at the input files for the T4-lysozyme tutorial available at
alchemistry.org. They have defined state A and state B. I am using
GROMACS-5.1.4 for these calculation. So as mentioned in gromacs manual
decoupling parameters are taken from the mdp options, like by defining
[lambda-moltype] in mdp file. As I know from the tutorials and manual the
solvation free energy of the ligand can calculated.

From the alchemistry.org input files, the topology parameters of ligand
are
inserted in protein topology named as complex.top.

If I follow the same protocol without defining the state B of the ligand
in
topology, how the ligand molecule will be decoulped in complex.



An explicit B-state is necessary for a relative free energy calculation,
in which one molecule is transformed into another.

For any absolute free energy calculation (solvation, binding, etc) then
you do not need to define a B-state, and just couple the physical
parameters to lambda to turn them on/off.

-Justin





On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:




On 1/7/17 10:29 PM, tasneem kausar wrote:

Thank you for your reply


In last section of your tutorial you have suggested some changes to made
in
mdp file. That can be used for solvation free energies.
For free energy calculation of protein drug complex, is it only lambda
restraint to be defined?


Along with a complex system of [intermolecular_interactions] that

preserve
the relative orientation of the ligand.  This is a very complex
calculation
in practice.  See examples on alchemistry.org and in the literature in
works by Roux, Im, Karplus, etc.  My tutorial is not very useful for such
calculations; it is extremely basic relative to what is needed to carry
out
a binding free energy calculation.  I only mentioned it there because so
many people asked about it and I wanted to clear up any confusion.

-Justin


On 8 Jan 2017 01:45, "Justin Lemkul"  wrote:






On 1/7/17 6:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:

Dear all



I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in
topology
are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set
the
charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in
tutorial
of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.

Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I
apply
it
to drug that I want to study.


The charges in my tutorial are set to zero because the stated goal of


that
tutorial is to reproduce *only the LJ portion of the hydration free
energy*
to match a published paper.  This creates a very simple, robust system.
If
you want to calculate a real, meaningful hydration or binding free
energy,
charge transformation is required.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-10 Thread tasneem kausar
Thank You for your reply

The system under my study has positive charge. There are 3 positive charges
on the protein and one on drug molecule. How these charges will be handled.


On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> On 1/9/17 2:31 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:
>
>> I got it.
>>
>> I have looked at the input files for the T4-lysozyme tutorial available at
>> alchemistry.org. They have defined state A and state B. I am using
>> GROMACS-5.1.4 for these calculation. So as mentioned in gromacs manual
>> decoupling parameters are taken from the mdp options, like by defining
>> [lambda-moltype] in mdp file. As I know from the tutorials and manual the
>> solvation free energy of the ligand can calculated.
>>
>> From the alchemistry.org input files, the topology parameters of ligand
>> are
>> inserted in protein topology named as complex.top.
>>
>> If I follow the same protocol without defining the state B of the ligand
>> in
>> topology, how the ligand molecule will be decoulped in complex.
>>
>>
> An explicit B-state is necessary for a relative free energy calculation,
> in which one molecule is transformed into another.
>
> For any absolute free energy calculation (solvation, binding, etc) then
> you do not need to define a B-state, and just couple the physical
> parameters to lambda to turn them on/off.
>
> -Justin
>
>
>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 1/7/17 10:29 PM, tasneem kausar wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you for your reply

 In last section of your tutorial you have suggested some changes to made
 in
 mdp file. That can be used for solvation free energies.
 For free energy calculation of protein drug complex, is it only lambda
 restraint to be defined?


 Along with a complex system of [intermolecular_interactions] that
>>> preserve
>>> the relative orientation of the ligand.  This is a very complex
>>> calculation
>>> in practice.  See examples on alchemistry.org and in the literature in
>>> works by Roux, Im, Karplus, etc.  My tutorial is not very useful for such
>>> calculations; it is extremely basic relative to what is needed to carry
>>> out
>>> a binding free energy calculation.  I only mentioned it there because so
>>> many people asked about it and I wanted to clear up any confusion.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 Jan 2017 01:45, "Justin Lemkul"  wrote:
>>>



> On 1/7/17 6:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
>>
>> I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
>> calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in
>> topology
>> are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set
>> the
>> charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in
>> tutorial
>> of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.
>>
>> Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I
>> apply
>> it
>> to drug that I want to study.
>>
>>
>> The charges in my tutorial are set to zero because the stated goal of
>>
> that
> tutorial is to reproduce *only the LJ portion of the hydration free
> energy*
> to match a published paper.  This creates a very simple, robust system.
> If
> you want to calculate a real, meaningful hydration or binding free
> energy,
> charge transformation is required.
>
> -Justin
>
> --
> ==
>
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> Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow
>
> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
> School of Pharmacy
> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 629
> University of Maryland, Baltimore
> 20 Penn St.
> Baltimore, MD 21201
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 1/9/17 2:31 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:

I got it.

I have looked at the input files for the T4-lysozyme tutorial available at
alchemistry.org. They have defined state A and state B. I am using
GROMACS-5.1.4 for these calculation. So as mentioned in gromacs manual
decoupling parameters are taken from the mdp options, like by defining
[lambda-moltype] in mdp file. As I know from the tutorials and manual the
solvation free energy of the ligand can calculated.

From the alchemistry.org input files, the topology parameters of ligand are
inserted in protein topology named as complex.top.

If I follow the same protocol without defining the state B of the ligand in
topology, how the ligand molecule will be decoulped in complex.



An explicit B-state is necessary for a relative free energy calculation, in 
which one molecule is transformed into another.


For any absolute free energy calculation (solvation, binding, etc) then you do 
not need to define a B-state, and just couple the physical parameters to lambda 
to turn them on/off.


-Justin




On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:




On 1/7/17 10:29 PM, tasneem kausar wrote:


Thank you for your reply

In last section of your tutorial you have suggested some changes to made
in
mdp file. That can be used for solvation free energies.
For free energy calculation of protein drug complex, is it only lambda
restraint to be defined?



Along with a complex system of [intermolecular_interactions] that preserve
the relative orientation of the ligand.  This is a very complex calculation
in practice.  See examples on alchemistry.org and in the literature in
works by Roux, Im, Karplus, etc.  My tutorial is not very useful for such
calculations; it is extremely basic relative to what is needed to carry out
a binding free energy calculation.  I only mentioned it there because so
many people asked about it and I wanted to clear up any confusion.

-Justin


On 8 Jan 2017 01:45, "Justin Lemkul"  wrote:





On 1/7/17 6:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:

Dear all


I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in
topology
are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set
the
charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in
tutorial
of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.

Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I apply
it
to drug that I want to study.


The charges in my tutorial are set to zero because the stated goal of

that
tutorial is to reproduce *only the LJ portion of the hydration free
energy*
to match a published paper.  This creates a very simple, robust system.
If
you want to calculate a real, meaningful hydration or binding free
energy,
charge transformation is required.

-Justin

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Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
School of Pharmacy
Health Sciences Facility II, Room 629
University of Maryland, Baltimore
20 Penn St.
Baltimore, MD 21201

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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-08 Thread tasneem kausar
I got it.

I have looked at the input files for the T4-lysozyme tutorial available at
alchemistry.org. They have defined state A and state B. I am using
GROMACS-5.1.4 for these calculation. So as mentioned in gromacs manual
decoupling parameters are taken from the mdp options, like by defining
[lambda-moltype] in mdp file. As I know from the tutorials and manual the
solvation free energy of the ligand can calculated.

>From the alchemistry.org input files, the topology parameters of ligand are
inserted in protein topology named as complex.top.

If I follow the same protocol without defining the state B of the ligand in
topology, how the ligand molecule will be decoulped in complex.



On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> On 1/7/17 10:29 PM, tasneem kausar wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your reply
>>
>> In last section of your tutorial you have suggested some changes to made
>> in
>> mdp file. That can be used for solvation free energies.
>> For free energy calculation of protein drug complex, is it only lambda
>> restraint to be defined?
>>
>>
> Along with a complex system of [intermolecular_interactions] that preserve
> the relative orientation of the ligand.  This is a very complex calculation
> in practice.  See examples on alchemistry.org and in the literature in
> works by Roux, Im, Karplus, etc.  My tutorial is not very useful for such
> calculations; it is extremely basic relative to what is needed to carry out
> a binding free energy calculation.  I only mentioned it there because so
> many people asked about it and I wanted to clear up any confusion.
>
> -Justin
>
>
> On 8 Jan 2017 01:45, "Justin Lemkul"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 1/7/17 6:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all

 I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
 calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in
 topology
 are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set
 the
 charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in
 tutorial
 of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.

 Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I apply
 it
 to drug that I want to study.


 The charges in my tutorial are set to zero because the stated goal of
>>> that
>>> tutorial is to reproduce *only the LJ portion of the hydration free
>>> energy*
>>> to match a published paper.  This creates a very simple, robust system.
>>> If
>>> you want to calculate a real, meaningful hydration or binding free
>>> energy,
>>> charge transformation is required.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
>>> Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow
>>>
>>> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
>>> School of Pharmacy
>>> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 629
>>> University of Maryland, Baltimore
>>> 20 Penn St.
>>> Baltimore, MD 21201
>>>
>>> jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441
>>> http://mackerell.umaryland.edu/~jalemkul
>>>
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-08 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 1/7/17 10:29 PM, tasneem kausar wrote:

Thank you for your reply

In last section of your tutorial you have suggested some changes to made in
mdp file. That can be used for solvation free energies.
For free energy calculation of protein drug complex, is it only lambda
restraint to be defined?



Along with a complex system of [intermolecular_interactions] that preserve the 
relative orientation of the ligand.  This is a very complex calculation in 
practice.  See examples on alchemistry.org and in the literature in works by 
Roux, Im, Karplus, etc.  My tutorial is not very useful for such calculations; 
it is extremely basic relative to what is needed to carry out a binding free 
energy calculation.  I only mentioned it there because so many people asked 
about it and I wanted to clear up any confusion.


-Justin


On 8 Jan 2017 01:45, "Justin Lemkul"  wrote:




On 1/7/17 6:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:


Dear all

I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in topology
are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set the
charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in tutorial
of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.

Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I apply it
to drug that I want to study.



The charges in my tutorial are set to zero because the stated goal of that
tutorial is to reproduce *only the LJ portion of the hydration free energy*
to match a published paper.  This creates a very simple, robust system.  If
you want to calculate a real, meaningful hydration or binding free energy,
charge transformation is required.

-Justin

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University of Maryland, Baltimore
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-07 Thread tasneem kausar
Thank you for your reply

In last section of your tutorial you have suggested some changes to made in
mdp file. That can be used for solvation free energies.
For free energy calculation of protein drug complex, is it only lambda
restraint to be defined?

On 8 Jan 2017 01:45, "Justin Lemkul"  wrote:

>
>
> On 1/7/17 6:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
>> calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in topology
>> are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set the
>> charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in tutorial
>> of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.
>>
>> Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I apply it
>> to drug that I want to study.
>>
>>
> The charges in my tutorial are set to zero because the stated goal of that
> tutorial is to reproduce *only the LJ portion of the hydration free energy*
> to match a published paper.  This creates a very simple, robust system.  If
> you want to calculate a real, meaningful hydration or binding free energy,
> charge transformation is required.
>
> -Justin
>
> --
> ==
>
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow
>
> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
> School of Pharmacy
> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 629
> University of Maryland, Baltimore
> 20 Penn St.
> Baltimore, MD 21201
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Re: [gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 1/7/17 6:05 AM, tasneem kausar wrote:

Dear all

I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in topology
are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set the
charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in tutorial
of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.

Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I apply it
to drug that I want to study.



The charges in my tutorial are set to zero because the stated goal of that 
tutorial is to reproduce *only the LJ portion of the hydration free energy* to 
match a published paper.  This creates a very simple, robust system.  If you 
want to calculate a real, meaningful hydration or binding free energy, charge 
transformation is required.


-Justin

--
==

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Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow

Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
School of Pharmacy
Health Sciences Facility II, Room 629
University of Maryland, Baltimore
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[gmx-users] Topology parameters for ligand

2017-01-07 Thread tasneem kausar
Dear all

I am following Justin's tutorial methane in water for free energy
calculation. I am using Gromacs-5.1.4. The charges of methane in topology
are set to zero. So following the same protocol, is it relevant to set the
charges at zero in topology of the drug. I am confused because in tutorial
of Sander (ethanol in water) charges are present in the topology file.

Please tell me the difference in both the tutorials and how can I apply it
to drug that I want to study.


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