Re: [gmx-users] Ions moving to the opposite layer during minimization.

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

It's a periodic box, right? There is only one water region. You can't get
steady-state non-equilibrium ion distribution without forcing it, e.g.
https://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/compel

Mark

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:42 PM anu chandra anu80...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

 I am working with membrane proteins. The system contains CaCl2  ions and I
 build the system with calcium ions on one side of the membrane (here, upper
 layer) and chloride ions distributed on both side of the membrane, in order
 to maintain the physiological condition. Unfortunately, after the very
 first minimization, when I visualize the gro file in VMD I have noticed
 that  the calcium ions  entered the opposite side of the membrane (ie,
 lower layer) and subsequently get distributed in the lower layer during the
 equilibration process. Though I have tried with varying Z-dimension values
 of the box size, the same has been noticed when visualizing the output gro
 file with VMD.

 Please help me to figure out what is wrong with my simulation box.

 Many thanks
 Anu
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Re: [gmx-users] Ions moving to the opposite layer during minimization.

2015-07-14 Thread anu chandra
Hi,

It looks like the the problem is the asymmetry in ion distribution. I have
seen from the literature that such ion asymmetry can be maintain by
implementing slab geometry. Can anybody provide me some information of how
to build vacuum slab above and below the  membrane ( ie in Z direction).
What all modification I should make in mdp input file to take care of the
slab geometry?


Many thanks in advance


Anu

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 3:57 PM, anu chandra anu80...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the reply Mark. Yes, its a periodic box. Below is the input mdp
 I have used for  minimization.

 define  = -DREST_ON -DSTEP6_0
 integrator  = steep
 emtol   = 1000.0
 nsteps  = 5000
 nstlist = 10
 cutoff-scheme   = Verlet
 rlist   = 1.2
 vdwtype = Cut-off
 vdw-modifier= Force-switch
 rvdw_switch = 1.0
 rvdw= 1.2
 coulombtype = pme
 rcoulomb= 1.2
 ;
 constraints = h-bonds
 constraint_algorithm= LINCS

 **

 Please find attached the snapshot of the system before (initial.png) and
 after minimization (min1.png). Green is the calcium ions and blue is the
 chloride ions. All I have done is adding calcium ions to one side of the
 membrane. It looks to me like calcium ions enetering from the opposite side
 of the box ( ie from its image box). Hope I am taking care of the periodic
 condition. Please have a look and help me to figure out the problem.

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 It's a periodic box, right? There is only one water region. You can't get
 steady-state non-equilibrium ion distribution without forcing it, e.g.
 https://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/compel

 Mark

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:42 PM anu chandra anu80...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Gromacs users,
 
  I am working with membrane proteins. The system contains CaCl2  ions
 and I
  build the system with calcium ions on one side of the membrane (here,
 upper
  layer) and chloride ions distributed on both side of the membrane, in
 order
  to maintain the physiological condition. Unfortunately, after the very
  first minimization, when I visualize the gro file in VMD I have noticed
  that  the calcium ions  entered the opposite side of the membrane (ie,
  lower layer) and subsequently get distributed in the lower layer during
 the
  equilibration process. Though I have tried with varying Z-dimension
 values
  of the box size, the same has been noticed when visualizing the output
 gro
  file with VMD.
 
  Please help me to figure out what is wrong with my simulation box.
 
  Many thanks
  Anu
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