Re: Project/Task
Jason- I decided to replace the default "*ActiveProjects*" section of the dashboard you created and this satisfied my needs. == *Removed the following section*: <> *Added the following section*: <> == *Below is the reasoning behind the madness* As a Network & System Administrator, I am constantly involved in both types of projects. This is the main reason, I started utilizing the "SubProjects": *Areas* Server Operations Network Operations Support Operations Infrastructure Operations *Projects* Server Project Network Project Infrastructure Project Support Projects *Sub Projects* Server Project-Project A Network Project-Project B Infrastructure Project-Project C Support Projects-Project D Your dashboard modifications got me on the right track and now my dashboard views are VERY effective. Thanks, Roy On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:23 PM, jdunham wrote: > > Hi Roy: I'm glad it's helping. > > I haven't been using Subprojects. I made a couple but it didn't seem > to add a lot of value. That seems doubly so if you have the main > project in the name of the subproject. > > You can add > where:!tiddler.hasSubProject() > to the active projects mgtdlist [the exclamation point negates the > expression], but in addition I would recommend an additional list for > the top-level projects > where:tiddler.hasSubProject() > so you don't lose track of them. > > Furthermore I don't think those two conditions check for only > uncompleted suprojects, which might be something to care about. > > At this point you've exhausted my knowledge of MonkeyGTD, but maybe > others can help. > > Jason > > On Mar 31, 5:42 pm, Roy Hernandez wrote: > > Jason- > > > > Nice job documenting your "*Custom Project Classification*" template > mods. > > I modified my site to reflect your mods and so far it's looking great. > I've > > been using MonkeyGTD for a while and can relate to the need of having > > a "*Queued > > Projects*" section. If the action items are presented in bit size > pieces, > > it's less overwhelming. > > > > One thing that is a bit annoying is that the "*Active Projects*" displays > > Projects and Sub Projects. > > > > I have my Projects structured like so: > > *Project*: > > Project A > > > > *Sub-project* > > Project A- The name of Some Project > > Project A- The name of another Project > > > > The Dashboard will display the "*Active Projects*" as: > > Project A > > Project A- The name of Some Project > > Project A- The name of another Project > > > > Considering my creative title names, I already know the "parent project > > names" of all "sub-projects" and displaying the "Sub-Projects" would > provide > > a better view. The look and feel of the Dashboard will be less redundant > > > > Do you have any recommendations to modified the dashboard view. > > > > Thanks, > > Roy > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to GTD-TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Project/Task
Hi Roy: I'm glad it's helping. I haven't been using Subprojects. I made a couple but it didn't seem to add a lot of value. That seems doubly so if you have the main project in the name of the subproject. You can add where:!tiddler.hasSubProject() to the active projects mgtdlist [the exclamation point negates the expression], but in addition I would recommend an additional list for the top-level projects where:tiddler.hasSubProject() so you don't lose track of them. Furthermore I don't think those two conditions check for only uncompleted suprojects, which might be something to care about. At this point you've exhausted my knowledge of MonkeyGTD, but maybe others can help. Jason On Mar 31, 5:42 pm, Roy Hernandez wrote: > Jason- > > Nice job documenting your "*Custom Project Classification*" template mods. > I modified my site to reflect your mods and so far it's looking great. I've > been using MonkeyGTD for a while and can relate to the need of having > a "*Queued > Projects*" section. If the action items are presented in bit size pieces, > it's less overwhelming. > > One thing that is a bit annoying is that the "*Active Projects*" displays > Projects and Sub Projects. > > I have my Projects structured like so: > *Project*: > Project A > > *Sub-project* > Project A- The name of Some Project > Project A- The name of another Project > > The Dashboard will display the "*Active Projects*" as: > Project A > Project A- The name of Some Project > Project A- The name of another Project > > Considering my creative title names, I already know the "parent project > names" of all "sub-projects" and displaying the "Sub-Projects" would provide > a better view. The look and feel of the Dashboard will be less redundant > > Do you have any recommendations to modified the dashboard view. > > Thanks, > Roy > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to GTD-TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Project/Task
Jason- Nice job documenting your "*Custom Project Classification*" template mods. I modified my site to reflect your mods and so far it's looking great. I've been using MonkeyGTD for a while and can relate to the need of having a "*Queued Projects*" section. If the action items are presented in bit size pieces, it's less overwhelming. One thing that is a bit annoying is that the "*Active Projects*" displays Projects and Sub Projects. I have my Projects structured like so: *Project*: Project A *Sub-project* Project A- The name of Some Project Project A- The name of another Project The Dashboard will display the "*Active Projects*" as: Project A Project A- The name of Some Project Project A- The name of another Project Considering my creative title names, I already know the "parent project names" of all "sub-projects" and displaying the "Sub-Projects" would provide a better view. The look and feel of the Dashboard will be less redundant Do you have any recommendations to modified the dashboard view. Thanks, Roy On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:24 PM, jdunham wrote: > > OK, > I documented my customization at > > http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Custom_Project_Classifications > > Jason > > On Mar 27, 5:18 am, Simon Baird wrote: > > > > Thirdly, regarding a good way to share what you did, it would be great to > > include something like this in the documentation. Especially if you know > > your way around MediaWiki (or even if you don't it's not hard to get > > started)... Okay I made a stub of sorts here: > http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Custom_Proje... > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to GTD-TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Project/Task
OK, I documented my customization at http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Custom_Project_Classifications Jason On Mar 27, 5:18 am, Simon Baird wrote: > > Thirdly, regarding a good way to share what you did, it would be great to > include something like this in the documentation. Especially if you know > your way around MediaWiki (or even if you don't it's not hard to get > started)... Okay I made a stub of sorts > here:http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Custom_Proje... > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to GTD-TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Project/Task
Hello, Well I'm no mGTD developer, but I had a similar problem, that is, I wanted to preserve some custom views and menus through future upgrades and so I needed to find the easiest way to do so. Obviously in an upgrade *something* is going to be overwritten no matter what you do (unless a specific facility for this is introduced in the future) but I think I have got it down to one thing that will need to be re- customised after an upgrade. You can see my solution at http://ivashko.tiddlyspot.com/ Under the Process menu (which is custom) I have added a link to those tiddlers tagged 'custom'. So far just four. With the ProcessInboxMenu and DoWorkMenu I just added the word custom to the end for my versions - as the names don't matter because you don't see them. For the Action Dashboard by Context, I added an asterisk for the custom version. Then in the actual MGTDSidebar I changed it to use my custom menus, which in turn include my custom dashboard and other modifications. I also created MGTDSidebarCustom which is not actually in use, but is a copy of my changes to MGTDSidebar. So now, when upgrading: 1: My custom tiddlers won't be overwritten because they have different names, and 2: all I have to do is copy the contents of MGTDSidebarCustom to MGTDSidebar (which will have been overwritten) and all should be good, unless, 3: there were major changes to the structure of the sidebar and menus, but then all bets are off:) So that should work ok I think. Obviously such a scheme could be extended to have a dropdown listbox to choose a customised system as is now available for themes and colour schemes - but of course it would have to be incorporated into the official mGTD or it would be overwritten. Jacques. p.s. just in case anyone wonders why there is a ₤ in my Process menu, it's not because I love money, I just have to use the symbol a lot and don't have one on my keyboard:) On Mar 9, 10:53 pm, Ed Griebel wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:19 AM, jdunham wrote: > > > Hi Ed: > > > You're right, it was easier than I thought it would be to add the new > > statuses. Thanks for the push. > > What I chose was a new ProjectStatus I call "pending" which is really > > pending my availability to work on it. > > I also have a new ActionStatus called "queued" which basically means > > the same thing. > > The hardest part of all this was to come up with appropriate names, > > and I'm still not totally thrilled, but I think the functionality is > > good. > > I'm not too crazy about my names either :-) > Even though it's not "pure GTD", I like your idea of having a > pending-type status on projects and actions, sounds like a "get around > to it" status. > > > Also I would appreciate input from the developers on how to keep these > > changes from getting discarded in any mGTD upgrades. > > Hah, always the $64 question, I would like to understand if there's > any best practices for this too. There's a tickler where > customizations can go (MgtdUserConf) but that won't work for inline > macro modifications. > > > > > Jason > > > On Mar 2, 9:37 am, Ed Griebel wrote: > >> I like the idea of a "long-term idea" because I have a lot of them too. > > >> I'm just a user of mGTD, but I was able to add a new "classification" > >> for Future, this is how I did it: > >> - I added a new tiddler "Future/Never", tagged ProjectStatus, content > >> "order:3 button:fut buttonLong:future" > >> - added a new entry to Projects Dashboard tiddler by double-clicking > >> on it after the "someday/maybe" line: > >> < >> tags:'Future/Never && !Complete' view:ProjectArea mode:global > >> newButtonTags:'Project Future/Never' > >> >> > > >> I haven't thoroughly searched the code to see where else blocks for > >> "Active" and "Someday/Maybe" projects are displayed to add > >> "Future/Never" to them. > > >> -ed > > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Jason Dunham wrote: > >> > Hi Ronin and Jacques, > >> > thanks for the ideas. > > >> > Realms won't really work for me, because I am already making use of them. > >> > In fact I'm using most of the features of mGTD, and finding them > >> > useful. If > >> > that weren't true, I'd be more interested in finding another task manager > >> > than fixing mGTD. > > >> > So I'm reluctant to overload one of those features with this function, > >> > though I will probably start with more disciplined use of the stars. > > >> > I believe this is a real problem so I would love to hear if any of the > >> > developers have an opinion, or if other people like Ronin are also > >> > grappling > >> > with this. > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:52 AM, RoninTDK wrote: > > >> >> I have sort of similar problem: > > >> >> So what I do in monkeyGTD is create a > >> >> seperate realm "IDEAS" where I put all that stuff. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to th
Re: Project/Task
I'd be interested to see peoples solutions. I've added a "Back Burner" Realm and intended to put lots of projects into there, but I have not yet found a way to change the realm of LOTS of projects and theirs actions, so I hacve not been able to implement it. Damian On Mar 9, 8:19 am, jdunham wrote: > Hi Ed: > > You're right, it was easier than I thought it would be to add the new > statuses. Thanks for the push. > What I chose was a new ProjectStatus I call "pending" which is really > pending my availability to work on it. > I also have a new ActionStatus called "queued" which basically means > the same thing. > The hardest part of all this was to come up with appropriate names, > and I'm still not totally thrilled, but I think the functionality is > good. > > It wasn't too difficult to update my favorite views, and I also > created a new dashboard view which works well for me. > The left column is stuff that needs attention right now: Ticklers > Requiring Action and Next Actions. > The right column is stuff that I need to keep an eye on: Active > Projects, Queued Actions in Active Projects, and Pending Projects > > I am happy to share what I did, but I'm not quite sure the best way to > do that. > > Also I would appreciate input from the developers on how to keep these > changes from getting discarded in any mGTD upgrades. > > P.S. Sorry for having started this message topic with a totally > useless subject. > > Jason > > On Mar 2, 9:37 am, Ed Griebel wrote: > > > I like the idea of a "long-term idea" because I have a lot of them too. > > > I'm just a user of mGTD, but I was able to add a new "classification" > > for Future, this is how I did it: > > - I added a new tiddler "Future/Never", tagged ProjectStatus, content > > "order:3 button:fut buttonLong:future" > > - added a new entry to Projects Dashboard tiddler by double-clicking > > on it after the "someday/maybe" line: > > < > tags:'Future/Never && !Complete' view:ProjectArea mode:global > > newButtonTags:'Project Future/Never' > > >> > > > I haven't thoroughly searched the code to see where else blocks for > > "Active" and "Someday/Maybe" projects are displayed to add > > "Future/Never" to them. > > > -ed > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Jason Dunham wrote: > > > Hi Ronin and Jacques, > > > thanks for the ideas. > > > > Realms won't really work for me, because I am already making use of them. > > > In fact I'm using most of the features of mGTD, and finding them useful. > > > If > > > that weren't true, I'd be more interested in finding another task manager > > > than fixing mGTD. > > > > So I'm reluctant to overload one of those features with this function, > > > though I will probably start with more disciplined use of the stars. > > > > I believe this is a real problem so I would love to hear if any of the > > > developers have an opinion, or if other people like Ronin are also > > > grappling > > > with this. > > > > Thanks, > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:52 AM, RoninTDK wrote: > > > >> I have sort of similar problem: > > > >> So what I do in monkeyGTD is create a > > >> seperate realm "IDEAS" where I put all that stuff. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to GTD-TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Project/Task
I like the idea of a "long-term idea" because I have a lot of them too. I'm just a user of mGTD, but I was able to add a new "classification" for Future, this is how I did it: - I added a new tiddler "Future/Never", tagged ProjectStatus, content "order:3 button:fut buttonLong:future" - added a new entry to Projects Dashboard tiddler by double-clicking on it after the "someday/maybe" line: <> I haven't thoroughly searched the code to see where else blocks for "Active" and "Someday/Maybe" projects are displayed to add "Future/Never" to them. -ed On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Jason Dunham wrote: > Hi Ronin and Jacques, > thanks for the ideas. > > Realms won't really work for me, because I am already making use of them. > In fact I'm using most of the features of mGTD, and finding them useful. If > that weren't true, I'd be more interested in finding another task manager > than fixing mGTD. > > So I'm reluctant to overload one of those features with this function, > though I will probably start with more disciplined use of the stars. > > I believe this is a real problem so I would love to hear if any of the > developers have an opinion, or if other people like Ronin are also grappling > with this. > > Thanks, > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:52 AM, RoninTDK wrote: >> >> I have sort of similar problem: > > >> >> So what I do in monkeyGTD is create a >> seperate realm "IDEAS" where I put all that stuff. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to GTD-TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Project/Task
Well one way you could do it fairly quickly would be using the stars,
but not merely to distinguish the actions all in one list, but to make
a new list of starred & next actions. So in the Action Dashboard by
Context, for example, you could add in a new view above the default
Next Actions list called 'Next Actions' and then change the default
next actions to be 'Pending Actions', like this:
<>
<>
So then starred becomes more separated out... seems like the easiest
way to get a third status.
On Feb 27, 5:07 am, jdunham wrote:
> I wanted to brainstorm about making the mGTD system even more useful.
> So here's my problem:
>
> I have three kinds of projects or tasks:
> Things that I'm actively working on
> Things that are urgent, but have to wait until my active ones are done
> ("pending?")
> Things that I should do someday or maybe not at all.
>
> You can probably see where I'm going with this. mGTD only has two of
> these categories. If the pending stuff is made active, then it's hard
> to focus on next actions when there are 50 of them instead of 3 to 5.
> If the pending stuff is in the S/M (someday/maybe) list, then it gets
> lost, and when I do have space in the active list, I have to browse
> through many more items to find the best candidates to make active.
>
> I find I have this problem on both the action level and the project
> level.
>
> For now I am using the stars to flag the more important items, but I
> have to say I don't like it. What I really want is "next and waiting
> actions", which I keep onscreen at all times to show all next and
> pending stuff, and I only want to see the S/M stuff during my weekly
> review.
>
> For stuff that I have absolutely no chance of working on today (today
> for actions, this week for projects), I don't want to see it in my
> active list, but I hate banishing it to S/M where its really going to
> get lost in the crowd.
>
> While I don't want to break the purity of the David Allen concept, I
> honestly feel that this is missing from his idea too.
>
> How hard would it be to add a third attribute? Obviously the hardest
> part would be changing the view tiddlers, but I hereby volunteer to
> help. Does anyone know how/whether other GTD tools handle this?
>
> Any other ideas?
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Nested Project/Task List
Has anyone put together a nested project/task list, by any chance? My projects tend to have a layer or two of sub-projects, and I'm looking for a way to see all of the sub-projects and tasks/ticklers for a single project on one tiddler. With indenting, if possible. Something like this (the "[ ]" are meant to represent MonkeyGTD's checkbox icon): Project A [ ] Task A [ ] Task B Subproject A-1 [ ] Task 1 [ ] Task 2 Has anyone done something similar? I'd appreciate any code examples you have. If this hasn't been done, then any ideas you guys have about how I might go about this would be great. Thanks, Stefi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GTD TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to GTD-TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
