Re: gtk apps on iOS/Android?
On Mon, September 10, 2012 3:40 pm, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/07/2012 07:40 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: I'm contemplating trying to produce a version of my gtk app for tablet use. Can anyone point me to relevant resources or examples? At this point I'm totally clueless about porting to tablets (though I'm able to build my app for OS X OK), and I haven't found googling to be very useful. Basically you'll want to get a book on developing android apps, download the sdk, and go to town. All in Java of course. And using the Android UI toolkit. GTK+ is not available on Android or iOS, nor will it likely ever be. Use the native toolkits. interesting, wouldnt the quartz backend for osx build for iOS ? not exactly sure but I think the NSView and highlevel cocoa stuff is built upon the same low level windowing apis that are available on osx... You can compile other languages on android and ios. I'm not sure that anyone has tried to port gtk to android or ios yet. probably inevitable though so if it's your thing than I'm sure you will be able to make something happen. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd ___ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
Re: gtk apps on iOS/Android?
On 09/09/2012 11:40 PM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: interesting, wouldnt the quartz backend for osx build for iOS ? not exactly sure but I think the NSView and highlevel cocoa stuff is built upon the same low level windowing apis that are available on osx... I'm sure it could be ported of course. But there's really no point. Apple is unlikely to allow a GTK+ app in the app store anyway, as they require apps to use the native UI toolkit as part of their brand image. As well, porting an app to mobile platforms is more than just simply recompiling. The UI principles on a phone or tablet are different than a desktop (despite Unity and Gnome 3's belief to the contrary). Even with GTK+ supporting touch and other mobile things, it's the widget layout that is going to be different. So an application's UI really needs to be redesigned from scratch on the mobile anyway. GTK+ could be ported to Android of course, but again, but that would require considerable effort. Laying aside Java for a moment, Android apps are built and run very differently than desktop apps. The application life cycle is quite different. There is/was an attempt to port Qt to iOS, but it wouldn't have been a real port. Rather it would be a thin layer over cocoa, using the underlying Cocoa UI widgets, file APIs, and network APIs. I am not involved with either iOS or Android development, so I stand corrected if my thinking is in error. ___ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
Re: gtk apps on iOS/Android?
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Michael Torrie wrote: Not to mention Android does NOT use X11. You will also have to port Glib, Pango, etc. to Android. Actually, there is a Java based X11 Server running on Android and was available in Play Store (Android Market). The X11's commands are implemented by using the Android API. It said only bare bones X commands and protocols are currently implemented. So, creating application on top of this X11 need complete porting with Xlib. And from GTK+ side: every component must also to be ported to Java. http://code.google.com/p/android-xserver/ ___ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
Re: gtk apps on iOS/Android?
Ardhan Madras on 09/10/2012 11:08 AM wrote: Actually, there is a Java based X11 Server running on Android and was available in Play Store (Android Market). Yes, I am fully aware of this app. However, it is not a usable solution. It was written from the ground up so who knows what part of the X11 spec is missing from it or how stable it is. It's best to write native iOS or Android apps. Please don't waste your time trying to port Qt or GTK+. There was a perfectly good mobile Linux distribution, but unfortunately it was killed off when Microsoft bought the company. ___ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
Re: gtk apps on iOS/Android?
Tomaz Canabrava on 09/10/2012 11:27 AM wrote: Well, actually there's an working Qt version for Android, called Necessitas. so, there's no need to 'waste your time porting', it's already ported. Wow! Everyone is an expert! @kde.org! Sweet! /sarcasm Anyone else want to tell me something I already know? ___ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
Re: gtk apps on iOS/Android?
On 09/07/2012 07:40 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: I'm contemplating trying to produce a version of my gtk app for tablet use. Can anyone point me to relevant resources or examples? At this point I'm totally clueless about porting to tablets (though I'm able to build my app for OS X OK), and I haven't found googling to be very useful. Basically you'll want to get a book on developing android apps, download the sdk, and go to town. All in Java of course. And using the Android UI toolkit. GTK+ is not available on Android or iOS, nor will it likely ever be. Use the native toolkits. ___ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
Re: gtk apps on iOS/Android?
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/07/2012 07:40 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: I'm contemplating trying to produce a version of my gtk app for tablet use. Can anyone point me to relevant resources or examples? At this point I'm totally clueless about porting to tablets (though I'm able to build my app for OS X OK), and I haven't found googling to be very useful. Basically you'll want to get a book on developing android apps, download the sdk, and go to town. All in Java of course. And using the Android UI toolkit. GTK+ is not available on Android or iOS, nor will it likely ever be. Use the native toolkits. interesting, wouldnt the quartz backend for osx build for iOS ? not exactly sure but I think the NSView and highlevel cocoa stuff is built upon the same low level windowing apis that are available on osx... ___ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
