Re: Logo (was Re: GTK+ Website Review)
2007/10/10, Mathias Hasselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am Mittwoch, den 10.10.2007, 11:08 +0100 schrieb Alberto Ruiz: > > The light in the middle of the cube (in the center corner) doesn't > > help to make contrast with the white letters. > > Tango suggests to use the upper left corner as a light source and I > > think it would work better. > > Ok, modified the icon: > > - gtk-logo1.svg: Just cleaned up the glyphs. > - gtk-logo2.svg: The same, but black glyphs. > - gtk-logo3.svg: Moved the light source to the upper left corner. > - gtk-logo4.svg: Same again, but bright glyphs. I think that we won't find a way to decide if the logo is going to be good or not, since we´re basically stating personal opinions. Why don't we forward this challenge to the gnome-art team guys? Maybe they can came up with a solution that can please us all. Ciao, > Mathias > > -- > Mathias Hasselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://taschenorakel.de/ > > -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Logo (was Re: GTK+ Website Review)
Am Mittwoch, den 10.10.2007, 18:11 -0400 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Message body is too big: 173477 bytes with a limit of 100 KB So I'll resend: > Am Mittwoch, den 10.10.2007, 11:08 +0100 schrieb Alberto Ruiz: > > The light in the middle of the cube (in the center corner) doesn't > > help to make contrast with the white letters. > > Tango suggests to use the upper left corner as a light source and I > > think it would work better. > > Ok, modified the icon: > > - gtk-logo1.svg: Just cleaned up the glyphs. > - gtk-logo2.svg: The same, but black glyphs. > - gtk-logo3.svg: Moved the light source to the upper left corner. > - gtk-logo4.svg: Same again, but bright glyphs. Ciao, Mathias -- Mathias Hasselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://taschenorakel.de/ gtk-logo.tar.gz Description: application/compressed-tar signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GdkPixbuf vs. Cairo, new image library needed?
"BJörn Lindqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Incidentally, blitting pixbufs is slower than it has to be because its > format rarely matches the X11 server which uses either xRGB32 or > ARGB32. I don't disagree with anything else you say, but this "performance issue" is really a non-issue. We are talking about data on the client here, so there is no way the X server can hardware accelerate those blits [1]. This means we are back to software in both cases, and in that case the difference between convert_and_copy_data() and copy_data() is completely negligble. Soren [1] Some day, maybe, we'll be able to DMA directly out of client memory, but this will require lots of work in both the kernel and the X server. We are still far away from that being possible. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Logo (was Re: GTK+ Website Review)
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 09:25 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: > Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > > Am Montag, den 08.10.2007, 11:36 +0200 schrieb Kristian Rietveld: > >> On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 04:22:09PM +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > >>> Have anyone seen this[0] one? I think it's a great improvement > over the > >>> original one. And as Xan said, we avoid the > >>> aqua-and-rounded-corners-mac-and-web20-like look and feel :) > >>> > >>> [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GTK.svg > > > > Vectorized the old logo and tried to apply Tango colors and > gradients to > > it. Not satisfied with the result - seems I've lost any art-foo I > > probably never had. For what's worth I am attaching the result > > nevertheless. Guess we should get one of the real Tango wizards to > work > > on the logo. > > Hi Mathias, > > Yea I really like this icon. > Does anyone have any objections? > If not, I will consider using it on the website. I actually really like the one on Wikipedia better. I think the main thing is the text color.. I like the black text much better than the white. But this is also out of the context of where it will be seen, so perhaps on the website it would be better looking with white letters, I don't know. Just my $0.02. / Cody ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Logo (was Re: GTK+ Website Review)
2007/10/10, Martyn Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > > Am Montag, den 08.10.2007, 11:36 +0200 schrieb Kristian Rietveld: > >> On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 04:22:09PM +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > >>> Have anyone seen this[0] one? I think it's a great improvement over > the > >>> original one. And as Xan said, we avoid the > >>> aqua-and-rounded-corners-mac-and-web20-like look and feel :) > >>> > >>> [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GTK.svg > >> I think this one is worse than the current GTK+ logo; it looks all > watery to > >> me and the colors are very pale. Things I like about the current logo > >> are the box concept (that has some kind of message like Matthias said > earlier > >> in this thread) and the sketchy look. The colors might be too > intensive, but > >> maybe they just need to be tango-ized and get some fading/shadow. > >> > >> I am certainly not against having a new, more modern, logo, but I > couldn't > >> find any I like in the logos posted in this thread so far ... > > > > Vectorized the old logo and tried to apply Tango colors and gradients to > > > it. Not satisfied with the result - seems I've lost any art-foo I > > probably never had. For what's worth I am attaching the result > > nevertheless. Guess we should get one of the real Tango wizards to work > > on the logo. > > Hi Mathias, > > Yea I really like this icon. > Does anyone have any objections? > If not, I will consider using it on the website. The light in the middle of the cube (in the center corner) doesn't help to make contrast with the white letters. Tango suggests to use the upper left corner as a light source and I think it would work better. I think that the litl > > -- > Regards, > Martyn > ___ > gtk-devel-list mailing list > gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review
Murray Cumming wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:40 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: [snip] >>> Under Language Bindings on the same page, i believe that >>> gtk2-perl has had full support for 2.0 and 2.2 for quite some >>> time now. > [snip] > > As the original page says, these have always been self-reported > "supported" statuses. It's not perfect but nothing else would work. > The original page mentions that this information should be sent to > the language-bindings mailing list, which is how I regularly update > the page. http://www.gtk.org/bindings.html Ah, OK, thanks Murray, I missed that when writing the new pages. I will add that. > I notice also that there is no longer a separate section for the > language bindings that are on the GNOME Platform Bindings schedule. > These bindings are far more complete and reliably maintained than the > others and shouldn't be lost among the bigger list. In fact, the > sentence about the bindings that follow the release schedule is now > completely false and misleading. > http://www.imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/features.html OK. The list we have there is much more comprehensive than the language bindings information on live.gnome.org. I think it probably makes sense to make the distinction about which bindings are provided in GNOME and updated regularly (with a link to the live.gnome.org pages) as well as the other language bindings available. I will update the information about the bindings following the release schedule too - obviously this only applies to bindings we ship with the platform, not ALL bindings listed on the features page. > > But I still think that nobody will ever find this list again where it > is hidden at the end of a large page. I think this point is irrelevant. I don't think we should have a separate link (i.e. in the link menu at the top of the page) for language bindings because there isn't enough space and it isn't as important as some of the other things we could have on there. To me, it is obvious that language bindings would be on the features page if at all. If people want to find that information they will, I really don't think you have to go out of your way to make it more accessible. I am thinking about first time visitors looking to use the site, if they are really interested, they are most likely to go to the Features page and read everything they can achieve with this toolkit. -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Logo (was Re: GTK+ Website Review)
Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > Am Montag, den 08.10.2007, 11:36 +0200 schrieb Kristian Rietveld: >> On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 04:22:09PM +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >>> Have anyone seen this[0] one? I think it's a great improvement over the >>> original one. And as Xan said, we avoid the >>> aqua-and-rounded-corners-mac-and-web20-like look and feel :) >>> >>> [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GTK.svg >> I think this one is worse than the current GTK+ logo; it looks all watery to >> me and the colors are very pale. Things I like about the current logo >> are the box concept (that has some kind of message like Matthias said earlier >> in this thread) and the sketchy look. The colors might be too intensive, but >> maybe they just need to be tango-ized and get some fading/shadow. >> >> I am certainly not against having a new, more modern, logo, but I couldn't >> find any I like in the logos posted in this thread so far ... > > Vectorized the old logo and tried to apply Tango colors and gradients to > it. Not satisfied with the result - seems I've lost any art-foo I > probably never had. For what's worth I am attaching the result > nevertheless. Guess we should get one of the real Tango wizards to work > on the logo. Hi Mathias, Yea I really like this icon. Does anyone have any objections? If not, I will consider using it on the website. -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
