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2003-09-03 Thread Carl B. Constantine
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Re: Trouble with delete-event

2003-09-03 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 05:52:10PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > I found the problem. It was due to the fact that when you click on the
> > close button, the window isn't destroyed, but is put below the other
> > windows. 
> 
> Yes, this is an (IMO) annoying misfeature of metacity. 
> 
> I think the intent is to get the window out of your way faster, but the
> practical effect is increased confusion for even sophisticated users;
> even when you don't lose windows, more stuff is moving around so it
> makes the desktop feel less stable.)

The intent was that if you close an unfocused window, it doesn't 
temporarily get focus just before it closes, I think. Well, that
explains the window not getting raised anyway. I'm not sure why it
gets lowered. May be in bugzilla somewhere.

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Re: Trouble with delete-event

2003-09-03 Thread Scott Violet
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:33:44PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 05:52:10PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > > I found the problem. It was due to the fact that when you click on the
> > > close button, the window isn't destroyed, but is put below the other
> > > windows. 
> > 
> > Yes, this is an (IMO) annoying misfeature of metacity. 
> > 
> > I think the intent is to get the window out of your way faster, but the
> > practical effect is increased confusion for even sophisticated users;
> > even when you don't lose windows, more stuff is moving around so it
> > makes the desktop feel less stable.)
> 
> The intent was that if you close an unfocused window, it doesn't 
> temporarily get focus just before it closes, I think. Well, that
> explains the window not getting raised anyway. I'm not sure why it
> gets lowered. May be in bugzilla somewhere.

This sounds very similar to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115846 

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Re: XIM key interpretation fix for 2.2.x?

2003-09-03 Thread TOKUNAGA Hiroyuki
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:43:20 -0400
Owen Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd suggest looking at: 
> 
>  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90082
> 
> instead. The problem is not 
> 
>  "widgets should get all keystrokes before accelerator processing"
> 
> But:
> 
>  "Input methods should get keystrokes before accelerator processing"
> 
> The first would be a way of solving the second, but not the only
> way.

 I thought the first is good way of solving second, but now I've
understood first is not good way. because it's not compatible with the
XEMBED spec.

 In addition, my patch at 111438 does not solve all of the second
problem. So the patch is not good at all, I think.

> >  To solve this problem, once inputing starts, input method should
> >  steal all inputs from the keyboard until inputing ends, I think. (I
> > haven't finished reading XEMBED Spec and haven't understood proper
> > behavior of Client/Embedder, so I cannot say how we should do to
> > solve the problem.)
> 
> Yes, handling XEMBED is a major problem here.

 You are saying at Bug 90082, "Note that any method involve intercepting
key events on  the toplevel will not work in the context of embedding,
as done with Bonobo".

 I interpreted this as follows,

 If client side widget connect signal to the toplevel, it will not work
properly, because client has no toplevel or client toplevel is not real
toplevel. (I don't know which is correct, but I think intercepting key
events will not work in either.)

 My interpretation is right? Is there still any other problem?


 Intercepting key events on the toplevel will not work properly, so we
have to find a new solution to solve this problem, and I propose a new
solution.

 1. add active (this means while inputing) im context variable to
   each toplevel window 
 2. while active im context exists, keystroke is passed to the im
   context first.

 Do you think this good or not good? Such change is easy?


Regards,

TOKUNAGA Hiroyuki
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Re: XIM key interpretation fix for 2.2.x?

2003-09-03 Thread Ken Deeter

> 
>  1. add active (this means while inputing) im context variable to
>each toplevel window 

I'm not sure of all the details so I do apologize if I mis-assume something.

I just wanted to make sure, if this happens, then what will be the case
when say one activates an IM, but input focus go's off of a text input
widget.. will keypresses still be passed to the IM?

>From a application behaviour point of view (as opposed to the code's
point of view) I think we want the im to steal events only when the
focus appears to be on a text inputting widget and when the IM is
active.

I'm not sure if thats what you meant, or whether your proposed solution
produces this effect. I only wish to confirm.

Ken
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