POD in tarballs (was Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access)

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Schlemmer
 On 2009/11/29 at 11:44 PM, Torsten Schoenfeld kaffeeti...@gmx.de wrote:
 On 11/26/2009 01:42 AM, Jeffrey Ray wrote:
 I think the documentation should be included in the distribution. I
 think most perl users expect to be able to say perldoc Gtk2::xxx and get
 a response - and to be able find documentation for a module on CPAN.
 is that I think alot of the things you can find here
 http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/doc/pod/index.html should be made
 included with the Gtk2-perl distribution so that I can perldoc
 Gtk2::Assistant and get some documentation

 I'm willing to help make this happen if it is decided to include the pod
 
 Yes, I think it would be worth a try.  We used to take pride in the 
 small size of our tarballs, but with today's bandwidth availability, I'm 
 unsure whether tarball size still matters that much.
 
 To make this happen, you would need to find a way to hook the POD 
 generation into 'make dist'.  The Makefile code for the POD generation 
 is created in Glib::MakeHelper::postamble_docs_full().


If its on Windows, then there is a bug with later versions of MakeMaker if I 
remember correctly.  I usually just do before I install or make a ppm:

  dmake $(INST_LIB)/$(FULLEXT)/index.pod

So on Windows with ActivePerl I have both html and pod docs.  I can send my 
build scripts if anybody are interested.


Regards

Martin


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http://www.nwu.ac.za/it/gov-man/disclaimer.html 

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POD in tarballs (was Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access)

2009-11-29 Thread Torsten Schoenfeld

On 11/26/2009 01:42 AM, Jeffrey Ray wrote:

I think the documentation should be included in the distribution. I
think most perl users expect to be able to say perldoc Gtk2::xxx and get
a response - and to be able find documentation for a module on CPAN.
is that I think alot of the things you can find here
http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/doc/pod/index.html should be made
included with the Gtk2-perl distribution so that I can perldoc
Gtk2::Assistant and get some documentation

I'm willing to help make this happen if it is decided to include the pod


Yes, I think it would be worth a try.  We used to take pride in the 
small size of our tarballs, but with today's bandwidth availability, I'm 
unsure whether tarball size still matters that much.


To make this happen, you would need to find a way to hook the POD 
generation into 'make dist'.  The Makefile code for the POD generation 
is created in Glib::MakeHelper::postamble_docs_full().

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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-26 Thread Dave Howorth
I think the documentation should be included in the distribution.

The Catalyst notion of packaging the main docs in a separate
Catalyst::Manual distribution seems to work fairly well. CPAN can link
between distributions.

Just a thought,
Dave
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Kevin Ryde
Jeff Hallock jhall...@wbanda.com writes:

 But never documented - 
 http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/doc/pod/Gtk2/Assistant.html

That page looks a bit old, maybe it needs to be regenerated.
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Brian Manning
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Kevin Ryde use...@zip.com.au wrote:
 Jeff Hallock jhall...@wbanda.com writes:

 But never documented - 
 http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/doc/pod/Gtk2/Assistant.html

 That page looks a bit old, maybe it needs to be regenerated.

webmaster hatYes, the web docs need to be regenerated.  I have the
tools and the technology to do it, just not the time so far. Maybe
this weekend./webmaster hat

Thanks,

Brian
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Dave M
 webmaster hatYes, the web docs need to be regenerated.  I have the
 tools and the technology to do it, just not the time so far. Maybe
 this weekend./webmaster hat

 Thanks,


Would it be possible to have a tarball of all the documentation for
offline viewing once they've been regenerated? I'm pretty sure it's
been requested before, but I can't remember what the answer was...
That would be very useful!

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Brian Manning
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Dave M dave.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would it be possible to have a tarball of all the documentation for
 offline viewing once they've been regenerated? I'm pretty sure it's
 been requested before, but I can't remember what the answer was...
 That would be very useful!

(Apologies to Dave for the double post)

I can make that happen too.

Thanks,

Brian
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Kevin Ryde
Dave M dave.n...@gmail.com writes:

 Would it be possible to have a tarball of all the documentation for
 offline viewing once they've been regenerated?

It all should be installed etc when building.  (Debian and others might
put it in a separate package which is fine though.)

It'd be tempting to put .pod files in the main source dist so they show
up on cpan.org.  It'd badly bloat the dist but would make them visible
to anyone just nosing around ...
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Kevin Ryde
Jeffrey Ray jeff...@jeffreyray.info writes:

 perldoc Gtk2::xxx

Umm, I think that's supposed to work, once installed.

 find documentation for a module on CPAN.

But yes, that's not there.
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Jeffrey Ray

Kevin Ryde wrote:

Jeffrey Ray jeff...@jeffreyray.info writes:
  

perldoc Gtk2::xxx



Umm, I think that's supposed to work, once installed.

  

find documentation for a module on CPAN.



But yes, that's not there.
  



perldoc Gtk2::xxx
  


Umm, I think that's supposed to work, once installed.


Doesn't on my system - I'm running camelbox on vista.
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Brian Manning
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Jeffrey Ray jeff...@jeffreyray.info wrote:
 perldoc Gtk2::xxx

 Doesn't on my system - I'm running camelbox on vista.

http://camelbox.googlegroups.com/web/perldoc-gtk2-api.jpg?hl=engsc=6XQSUgsAAABz_T2L9K6tnZtih08cYtb0

Maybe there's something special about Vista and cmd.exe that's
preventing this from working.  perldoc is just a Perl script that has
been batch-ified so it will run under Windows.  Unfortunately, I don't
have a Vista system to test on to see why it may or may not be
working.

Thanks,

Brian
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Re: Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-25 Thread Jeffrey Ray

Brian Manning wrote:

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Jeffrey Ray jeff...@jeffreyray.info wrote:
  

perldoc Gtk2::xxx
  

Doesn't on my system - I'm running camelbox on vista.



http://camelbox.googlegroups.com/web/perldoc-gtk2-api.jpg?hl=engsc=6XQSUgsAAABz_T2L9K6tnZtih08cYtb0

Maybe there's something special about Vista and cmd.exe that's
preventing this from working.  perldoc is just a Perl script that has
been batch-ified so it will run under Windows.  Unfortunately, I don't
have a Vista system to test on to see why it may or may not be
working.

Thanks,

Brian
  




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Yes, I can do that too. In fact all of these ones 
http://search.cpan.org/~tsch/Gtk2-1.221/ as well. perldoc is working 
fine on my system.


What I was saying here:

I think the documentation should be included in the distribution. I 
think most perl users expect to be able to say perldoc Gtk2::xxx and get 
a response - and to be able find documentation for a module on CPAN. 

is that I think alot of the things you can find here 
http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/doc/pod/index.html should be made 
included with the Gtk2-perl distribution so that I can perldoc 
Gtk2::Assistant and get some documentation


I'm willing to help make this happen if it is decided to include the pod
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Gtk2::Assistant and Button Access

2009-11-24 Thread Jeff Hallock
How to remove a button from the assistant:


It took me a while - but I figured it out.

I wanted to remove the 'Last' button from a Gtk2::Assistant - and couldn't 
figure out how to get access to the buttons. I found this

http://old.nabble.com/Gtk2%3A%3AAssistant%3A-Access-to-Buttons-td11415772.html#a11415772

The accessors were added - http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/TSCH/Gtk2-1.180/NEWS

But never documented - 
http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/doc/pod/Gtk2/Assistant.html

Is there someplace else I should be looking?



The accessors are   get_*button-name*_button

So:

$assistant-get_next_button
$assistant-get_last_button
$assistant-get_previous_button
$assistant-get_close_button
...


Hope this helps.

-Jeff
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