Re: Laguna Seca GTS Count -- 9!

2000-07-13 Thread Roger Van Santen

Mike,

I had local obligations, but I was thinking about all of you.  Maybe next
year.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 13, 00 8:44 PM
Subject: Laguna Seca GTS Count -- 9!


> Roger, we had 9 GTS's at Laguna last weekend. You would have made it
double
>digits for GTS's. Oregon to Monterey, CA ... come on, you'd have just
gotten
>warmed up!
>
> The GTS riders that were there had a great time. It was really nice to be
>able to meet and talk face-to-face with other GTSer's. Can't wait till next
>year ... Laguna is a blast.
>
>Michael Cordon
>'94 GTS
>
>P.S. Bob & Bev ... I really enjoyed getting to know you kids! Hope we can
do
>it again very soon.
>
>>






Laguna Seca GTS Count -- 9!

2000-07-13 Thread Mike

    Roger, we had 9 GTS's at Laguna last weekend.  You would have made it double
digits for GTS's.  Oregon to Monterey, CA ... come on, you'd have just gotten
warmed up!

    The GTS riders that were there had a great time.  It was really nice to be
able to meet and talk face-to-face with other GTSer's.  Can't wait till next
year ... Laguna is a blast.

Michael Cordon
'94 GTS

P.S.  Bob & Bev ... I really enjoyed getting to know you kids!  Hope we can do
it again very soon.   

Roger Van Santen wrote:

> Mike,
>
> The Cal 24 was just canceled due to insufficient response.  So Laguna is a
> go.
>
> Roger
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, May 04, 00 8:16 PM
> Subject: GTS Endurance Riding
>
> > Dave, when Iron Roger posted his endurance friend's link, I checked out
> the Cal 24
> >.. even printed and filled out the application form. However, after
> checking the
> >calendar, I saw that it's the same day as Laguna Seca. I'm still seriously
> thinking
> >about the Cal 24, but I just don't know if I can pass up Laguna. Damn ...
> I'm totally
> >confused.
> >
> >Mike Cordon
> >'94 GTS
> >'98 Ducati 996
> >
> >Dave Biasotti wrote:
> >
> >> Aha, but I'm wiser and better armed now - that is more gas! I can go
> farther before
> >> I run out trying to make it to the next gas station.
> >> Why don't you try it - did you enter the Cal 24 July 7-9th out of Dublin?
> >> Right in your back yard (mine too).
> >> Call Tom Melchild @ 925-846-1772 to see if entry space still available.
> >> --
> >> Dave Biasotti // Fremont, CA
> >>
> >> Mike wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dave, do you mean that you didn't enjoy being stranded without fuel on
> some
> >> > great road in Nowhere, Utah for hours in the middle of the night? I
> still have
> >> > to smile at that one.
> >> > Hey, it could have been worse, you could have been stuck in Provo.
> Yeah,
> >> > Utah has some awesome roads and a number of incredible National Parks
> .. but
> >> > that state it ain't all roses ... BYU is there. Yuk.
> >> >
> >> > Mike Cordon
> >> > '94 GTS
> >> >
> >> > Dave Biasotti wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > That's one of the great attractions of the Utah 1088 rally - they
> send you
> >> > > out on some of the greatest roads in Utah and surrounding states.
> That's why
> >> > > I'm going back again this year (late June) for another whirl. This
> time I
> >> > > have a modified (all under the stock plastic) 7.25 gal fuel tank now.
> Plus
> >> > > other little mods.
> >> > > I'm planning on a finish this year!
> >> > > --
> >> > > Dave Biasotti // Fremont, CA
> >> > > Dir of Procurement, LSI Logic Corp
> >> > > 93 GTS-1000 // 83 Honda CX650Turbo
> >> > >
> >> > > Allan Parker wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > To all those people I missed on my trip I apologize. Even though I
> was
> >> > > > under no time constraints schedules did develop and the weather was
> a
> >> > > > tyrant which could not and would not be ignored. Well, 6500 miles
> and
> >> > > > not slightest problem. I changed oil in South Caroline and put new
> tires
> >> > > > on, in the Detroit area. I have now put 50,500 miles on in 3.5
> years and
> >> > > > could not be happier with the bike. All the best, Allan
> >> > > > PS To all you folks in the east--don't ride in Utah. You'll
> >> > > > hate yourselves when you have to return home.
> >




Re: Windshield question to the List

2000-07-13 Thread Adam Altman

I've heard bad things about pledge--not good for use in sun.  The UV rays can be
harmful and yellow the built-up wax.

Try Plexus instead.  Desinged for outdoor (boat) use, and really kicks butt.
IMHO.  PLexus can be got at Chaparral and dennis kirk, if not at your local
shop.

adam

Paul Koontz wrote:

> Try using Pledge spray wax (furniture polish) . My local glass professional
> uses only this and claims that the wax fills in the small scratches and
> brings the surface up to a clear finish.
>
> Paul Koontz
> 93 GTS
>
>  -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On
> Behalf Of Michael Esfeld
> Sent:   Thursday, July 13, 2000 1:07 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:Re: Windshield question to the List
>
> I bought a 4+ Clearview and I love it. The only thing I'm not as happy with
> is it seems to get fine scratches fairly easily. You don't notice them until
> the sun hits just right though. I have a great setup for cleaning too. Carry
> a natural sponge and a cloth diaper (also may be used for "pucker factor"
> tight turn cleanup...) which is about as non-abrasive as one can get. They
> sell a polish that might work to remove the scratches. Cost was about $120
> or so as I recall.
>
> Mike
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Laurenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:50 AM
> Subject: Windshield question to the List
>
> > I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up.  I can't
> > seem to get the windshield king, Kevin, to respond off list.
> >
> > Has anyone used the little BMW deflector on a stock screen?   Does it
> > work?  Does it add a lot of wind buffeting noise?  Where do you get
> > one if it does work?
> >
> > hawke




RE: First Impressions

2000-07-13 Thread K9KIKO

Hey George AKA Wobbles,

Would've loved to enjoy a cold one, unfortunately I will also be away.
Returning around the 13th. If your on your way back, give me a holler.

"CruzinTrooper"

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Subject: Re: First Impressions


> I'd have to dissagree with this one. Using the Pirelli's and Bridgestone
> BT57s I've not had a hands off decelleration wobble in years.

I did with the Pirellis...but then again I'm known to create wobbles. Can
you say BT57s?

Stone George Bridge

PS I'm getting ready to do a cross country on my RS/Bushtec-Bama to Boston
to Bama- two up. Anyone interested in meeting for a brooski along the way?
Dates August 4-13. Most likey stops Roanoke Va, New Hope Pa, Boston & DC
areaunless your offer's more tempting.



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Re: Windshield question to the List

2000-07-13 Thread paramithas

hawke, I don't think there is such animal (quietest shield) for our bike.
I've tried 3 different types with no stellar results. I also rode I friend's
GTS who had the deflector on his stock windshield and liked it. It did make
a difference with wind noise, it seemed to place the air over my helmet
making it quitter. I run the German MRA?? I think, looks way cool and does a
reasonable job at wind deflection.

George 5'11''



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From: John Laurenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:50 AM
Subject: Windshield question to the List


> I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up.  I can't
> seem to get the windshield king, Kevin, to respond off list.
>
> Has anyone used the little BMW deflector on a stock screen?   Does it
> work?  Does it add a lot of wind buffeting noise?  Where do you get
> one if it does work?
>
> hawke
>


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Re: First Impressions

2000-07-13 Thread paramithas

> I'd have to dissagree with this one. Using the Pirelli's and Bridgestone
> BT57s I've not had a hands off decelleration wobble in years.

I did with the Pirellis...but then again I'm known to create wobbles. Can
you say BT57s?

Stone George Bridge

PS I'm getting ready to do a cross country on my RS/Bushtec-Bama to Boston
to Bama- two up. Anyone interested in meeting for a brooski along the way?
Dates August 4-13. Most likey stops Roanoke Va, New Hope Pa, Boston & DC
areaunless your offer's more tempting.



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Re: Windshield question to the List

2000-07-13 Thread FGrefe

In a message dated 7/13/00 10:55:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up

Here are my opinions of the 3 screens that I have.  Keep in mind that I'm 
5'10", so your mileage may vary.  Stock - Puts the windblast at faceshield 
level and is extremely loud.  MRA - this is the one on Kevin's page.  It puts 
the wind just below my helmet.  If I lift my head up an inch it puts me 
completely out of the turbulence and is very quiet.  In my normal riding 
position it's so-so.  Clearview +4 - The quietest of the bunch.  Takes my 
whole upper body out of the airstream except for a little bit on the outside 
of my arms and shoulders.  I use the MRA in the summer and the Clearview when 
it gets cold.

Fred Grefe
Manassas, Va



RE: Windshield question to the List

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Koontz

I have a 5"+ clear screen for sale. It has been on the bike once and is in
perfect condition. Paid $120.00 will ship it in the USA for $85.00. It
creates a still void and is definitely quieter than the stock screen. I am
6'7" and it directs the air to the top 1 to 2" of my helmet. I also have
heli bars. For anyone that is of a more normal height, this screen will push
the air over your head. The screen is also 2" wider than the stock screen.
Contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.

I will be in the UK through 23 July if you contact me and I don't get back
until I return.

Paul Koontz
93 GTS

 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On
Behalf Of John Laurenson
Sent:   Thursday, July 13, 2000 10:51 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject:Windshield question to the List

I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up.  I can't
seem to get the windshield king, Kevin, to respond off list.

Has anyone used the little BMW deflector on a stock screen?   Does it
work?  Does it add a lot of wind buffeting noise?  Where do you get
one if it does work?

hawke




RE: Windshield question to the List

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Koontz

Try using Pledge spray wax (furniture polish) . My local glass professional
uses only this and claims that the wax fills in the small scratches and
brings the surface up to a clear finish.

Paul Koontz
93 GTS

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On
Behalf Of Michael Esfeld
Sent:   Thursday, July 13, 2000 1:07 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject:Re: Windshield question to the List

I bought a 4+ Clearview and I love it. The only thing I'm not as happy with
is it seems to get fine scratches fairly easily. You don't notice them until
the sun hits just right though. I have a great setup for cleaning too. Carry
a natural sponge and a cloth diaper (also may be used for "pucker factor"
tight turn cleanup...) which is about as non-abrasive as one can get. They
sell a polish that might work to remove the scratches. Cost was about $120
or so as I recall.

Mike


- Original Message -
From: "John Laurenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:50 AM
Subject: Windshield question to the List


> I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up.  I can't
> seem to get the windshield king, Kevin, to respond off list.
>
> Has anyone used the little BMW deflector on a stock screen?   Does it
> work?  Does it add a lot of wind buffeting noise?  Where do you get
> one if it does work?
>
> hawke





Re: weight reduction

2000-07-13 Thread Brandon

Nicholas,

According to Mike Coan, you can use any slip-on muffler with a piece of
bent tubing in between. I believe that several folks have used this
approach.

Also: (cut and paste here :^))

Anthony Grafals; I bought a carbon fiber Vance & Hines SS2R slip on for
a'97 YZF-750 and put it on the GTS in 5 minutes!  It includes the tail
piece.  C/F costs about $500 though.  Make sure you get a unit with an
adjustable mounting collar
around the canister.  If it's a solid welded mounting bracket, the holes
will probably not line up.

Stan wrote; FYI, 1994 Vance and Hines slip on (SS2R) from an FZR fits
pretty good. Need to fab a short connection piece from catalyst to
muffler. You gain a
significant amount of groung clearance. Muffler is oval vertically. Lose
about 9 lbs., sound good but appears to lose some umph down low. I'm
gonna
do a dyno run to see if its due to the power band smoothing out from
3-4K
or a real loss. 


-
nicholas.threader wrote:

> 2, Is there any after market exaust can ( muffler ) for the GTS which will
> fit straight on with only minor modifications, and is lighter than standard.



Laguna Seca Ride Report (longish)

2000-07-13 Thread Loss, Joe

Got back Tuesday from taking my GTS down to sea level. The GTS loved being
at sea level, must be at least 10% more power than at the 5600 ft elevation
of the GTS's home in Boulder, CO.

Left Boulder Thursday morning at 4:30 AM with the minimum goal of getting to
Austin, Nevada (784 miles) and maybe cracking 1000 miles (Carson City). It
was colder than I expected heading over the Rockies and crossing Utah and
Nevada was surprisingly almost perfect riding weather except for the almost
hurricane force winds howling off the salt lakes. I was feeling good and
comfortable and you can make really good time on the "loneliest highway in
America" (Hwy 50). I like this highway. As you would expect there's not much
traffic and there's very long straight sections of road broken up by
sections of sweepers through mountain ranges. Passes are at 6-7000 ft so the
weather is not the unbearable heat you might imagine. I met up with a young
guy on a Honda VTR1000 at a gas station in Ely and we rode together for 89
miles which was when he had to stop for gas!!! (The gas light was on
already) I kept going of course.

At Carson City, still feeling comfortable and alert, I thought I'd keep
going another hour or so and make it over the border to CA. On the map it
looked like there were small towns where accommodation could be had. Almost
3 hours and 120 miles later, cursing much of the way, I had crossed the
Sierra Nevadas to Jackson, the first place I could find a real Motel. It had
gotten dark, route 88 is tight and twisty, deer were darting out from the
sides of the road and I don't have auxiliary lighting!

Needless to say, with only 150 or so miles to cover the next day, I slept
in, had a big Dennys breakfast and generally took my time. I hooked up with
Kelly Cash in Sunnyvale that afternoon and we watched a rather entertaining
video sent to him by the Vmax club and went out for a great burger dinner.
Luckily, with Kelly's 3 bikes and car he has just enough room in his garage
for one more bike.

Early Sat we headed off for Laguna Seca and we met up with the other GTS
owners per the plan at the Yamaha tent. I believe we had 9 owners there over
the weekend? Bob Johnson, Bob Taylor, Doug McLeod, Doug Carlson, Tim
Monaghan, Jay Koblenz, Dave Biasotti, Kelly and me. We chatted for a while,
took some photos and made plans to meet down at Cannery Row that evening for
dinner.

For those that haven't been to WSB at Laguna Seca I can highly recommend it.
Always something happening. During the short amount of time when there's no
racing, there's either Gary Rothwell's show or motocross jumping shows and
then there's always the massive manufacturers display area and of course the
paddock. Oh yeh, and Kelly and I also spent a lot of the day perusing the
fine assortment of members of the opposite sex on display. Gary Rothwells
riding antics were truly amazing.

Saturday's events included the exciting AMA superbike race and Superpole for
WSB. Haga looked brilliant on the Yamaha but Bayliss put in a great lap to
take pole.

Later that afternoon we headed (along with thousands of others) to Cannery
Row. Strolling up and down the street, checking out all the bikes and people
is the highlight. We had a great long seafood dinner with the two Bobs and
Doug McLeod and their lovely better halves. I like to get my fill of seafood
when I get to the coast, I don't recommend seafood in CO. It was a long day
and it was about 10:30 PM before we got home.

Next morning we removed a screw from my rear tire and successfully plugged
it. Dave Biasotti and partner met us at Kelly's place and we rode to Laguna
Seca once again. Met up with the GTS guys again and enjoyed a great days
racing. Haga, Corser and Bostrom were all very impressive. Watching these
guys live gives you so much more of an appreciation for what they do than
watching them on TV.

Kelly took me back home the long way, through route 9. Lovely piece of
twisty road! More seafood that night for dinner, of course!

Set off the next day from Kelly's place at about 8 AM. Following his advice,
I headed up to the Mt Hamilton observatory and then to Mines road for Monday
mornings entertainment. The road was deserted and the weather was perfect.
Good call Kelly! Then headed over the Sierras via route 4 (more great
twistys and great scenery). Past Carson City it was starting to get hot and
once far enough into the outback I started to cruise at 100 mph +. Tire wear
and oil consumption increase noticeably at these speeds! There were quite a
few fellow bikers out there riding back from Laguna Seca so I had a bit of
company most of the way. Unfortunately my planned overnight stay in Ely was
foiled by some big dirt bike race that had every room in town booked out. 65
miles later I ended up finding the last room in a tiny little town called
Baker 5 miles off the highway. I had a great time drinking a few beers with
a handful of colorful locals in the bar. Reminded me very much of being in
Outback Australia ag

Re: Windshield question to the List

2000-07-13 Thread Michael Esfeld

I bought a 4+ Clearview and I love it. The only thing I'm not as happy with
is it seems to get fine scratches fairly easily. You don't notice them until
the sun hits just right though. I have a great setup for cleaning too. Carry
a natural sponge and a cloth diaper (also may be used for "pucker factor"
tight turn cleanup...) which is about as non-abrasive as one can get. They
sell a polish that might work to remove the scratches. Cost was about $120
or so as I recall.

Mike


- Original Message -
From: "John Laurenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:50 AM
Subject: Windshield question to the List


> I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up.  I can't
> seem to get the windshield king, Kevin, to respond off list.
>
> Has anyone used the little BMW deflector on a stock screen?   Does it
> work?  Does it add a lot of wind buffeting noise?  Where do you get
> one if it does work?
>
> hawke





Re: Aerostich colors and airbag vest

2000-07-13 Thread Adam Altman

My grey suit is a light grey, nothing like a charcoal.  Black ballistics.  there
might be 2 greys?  Definitely not charcoal.

adam

Roberto Alonso wrote:

>
> I originally was attracted to it because I was told they'd deliver custom
> sizes and I'm one big guy with one big belly - leathers are out of the
> question for me. One last question I forgot: On the Aerostich website, their
> grey suit looked charcoal grey, on another site reviewing it, it was like
> mid grey, navy grey or so. Which one is closer? I'd like to go for a light
> one, but the hi-viz may be a bit too much. I'll probably go for yellow
> ballistics, though, the most visible after hi-viz.




Aerostich colors and airbag vest

2000-07-13 Thread Roberto Alonso

Thanks for the input on the Aerostich Roadcrafter suit. Looks like everybody
likes it, I haven't heard or read a bad review of it anywhere! (I did check
the motoport website someone suggested, but 2x1-inch images are not much
help).

I originally was attracted to it because I was told they'd deliver custom
sizes and I'm one big guy with one big belly - leathers are out of the
question for me. One last question I forgot: On the Aerostich website, their
grey suit looked charcoal grey, on another site reviewing it, it was like
mid grey, navy grey or so. Which one is closer? I'd like to go for a light
one, but the hi-viz may be a bit too much. I'll probably go for yellow
ballistics, though, the most visible after hi-viz.

Also, have any of you guys heard about the airbag vest? (no kidding). I'd
like to check if you know anything about it in action, I've been told
(reliable source) it won rave reviews from mag testers that tested it the
hard way, but so far I haven't seen the mag. Any input?

For those of you that don't know about it, it's a cordura vest equipped with
inflatable innards and a gas canister. A line from the canister is secured
to the bike via a carabiner, if you & the bike part company it instantly
inflates, including panels on the (quite high) collar and pop-down panels on
the hip area. It stays inflated to sustain prolonged sliding, I'm told, not
like a car airbag that deflates immediately . I've had it in my hands, but
obviously was not allowed to yank the line to see it work. About US$ 480
here.

So far this is the only piece of gear I've found that would really protect
your neck and abdomen. Most people I've seen really injured or dead in a
motorcycle accident had sustained severe blows to either head, neck or
abdomen, yet conventional gear leaves the latter two completely unprotected
from anything but sliding abrasions. I'm about to get one for myself, but
not until I do a bit more research about it. I'd appreciate anything you
guys have to say about it.

regards,

Roberto.

__

Roberto Alonso
Zero Zero fotografía / diseño gráfico





Windshield question to the List

2000-07-13 Thread John Laurenson

I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up.  I can't 
seem to get the windshield king, Kevin, to respond off list.

Has anyone used the little BMW deflector on a stock screen?   Does it 
work?  Does it add a lot of wind buffeting noise?  Where do you get 
one if it does work?

hawke



GTS Headlight

2000-07-13 Thread John Laurenson

RE:
Hawke:

Did you change any of the stock headlight wiring to run this high wattage
bulb?

I find that the aim isn't particularly good.  I wish I could've put my
Concours headlight unit onto the GTS.  It was fantastic, while you'd think
Yamaha really didn't want you to ride this thing at night.

Regards,

Henry S. Winokur


First thing I do on  a new bikeadd two headlight relays 
(high/low) and make a new 10 gauge wire run to the front of the bike, 
adding connection block buses for it and a new ground to wire all my 
add on's.  I then use the handle bar switch to activate the headlight 
relays.  The 90/130w would burn up the stock switch.

I had heard from other GTS owners that the GTS headlight was the 
pits, but I have found with the 90/130w PIAA 
(NON-SUPERWHITE.SUPERWHITES SUCK) bulb in it, it isn't that bad 
it you take a little time to aim it. It will light up the road a long 
way off. The higher wattage makes up some for the poor reflector. In 
fact, I have no plans for adding any high power PIAA's for extra 
lighting at this moment.  I have one small cheap Discount Auto 
after-market 55watt running light tucked in between the fairing and 
the fender.  It is a flat squished light; I measure closely and it 
doesn't hit the fender.  I installed it for daytime running and to 
have some sort of headlight light backup for loosing the headlight 
bulb at night.

The problem I have found in over lighting, which I have done, is the 
problem with your eyes having trouble quickly readjusting to NO 
PIAA's and low beam light out put when you dim for on coming traffic. 
It can be like running in the dark for 5 or 10 seconds.  On a two 
lane curvy road at night that can be scary.  I find too much light 
can be as bad as not enough.  The 90/130w seems a nice compromise. 
Aimed properly so the low doesn't bother on coming traffic at all it 
does a good job. If you think about it, it isn't anymore light than a 
car or the new two headlight bulb motorcycles puts on the road.

hawke



Re: Gripping Developments

2000-07-13 Thread Steve Baglien

Again, thanks for all the help.

Kelly Cash wrote:

> > It's Morse code, (named after its inventor Samuel Morse).
>
> > > my triquarter was burned out by the EPS power conduit on deck 9.
> And while we're at it, it's "Tricorder", not Triquarter.
> Scottie, Spock, Miles, and B'Elanna would not be pleased.  ;-)
>
>  -K
>
> ==
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