Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
Rui, I am afraid that we really need as much media support as possible. About the free passes, we should issue as many as they need, probably one to three. Basically, we will have to add these sites if we want them to add us as well, and they are clearly supporting us. Debarshi, any thoughts? Cheers, Florian --- Florian Nadge, GUADEC 2013 GUADEC c/o Red Hat| Purkynova 71/99| 61200 Brno| tel: +420 603 764 858 ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] regular irc meeting #guadec Wednesday, 10 July
Hi, this is just a reminder for Wednesday's irc meeting: Wednesday, 3 July 2013 16:00 (UTC +2) gimp.net, #guadec updates on the usual topics: - registration - film night - budget - volunteers - open floor Cheers, Florian ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] [cont...@guadec.org: [GUADEC 2013] amigadave, your account has been created!]
Hello At the bottom of this email is the message that I received after registering for an account at the GUADEC website: https://www.guadec.org/registration/ Can it be updated to not refer to submitting new talk proposals (as those finished a while ago)? Also, could the password field be changed to Your password is: %s rather than the current Your password is %s.? I was confused by the full stop (.) not being part of the generated password. Thanks! - Forwarded message from GUADEC 2013 cont...@guadec.org - Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:51:37 + From: GUADEC 2013 cont...@guadec.org To: amigad...@amigadave.com Subject: [GUADEC 2013] amigadave, your account has been created! X-Mailer: PHPMailer 5.2.1 (http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/phpmailer/) Welcome to GUADEC 2013! Hello, amigadave! Thank you very much for joining us in the works of organizing GUADEC 2013! Your password is s3kr1t. Please keep it secret and keep it safe! Your next step is to submit your talk proposal at [1]our content management system! Click the link above or copy and paste the following URL to your browser: http://www.guadec.org/wp-admin/post-new.php?post_type=wcb_session. Thanks and see you in Brno! The GUADEC 2013 Team References 1. http://www.guadec.org/wp-admin/post-new.php?post_type=wcb_session - End forwarded message - -- http://amigadave.com/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
Rui, I am afraid that we really need as much media support as possible. About the free passes, we should issue as many as they need, probably one to three. Basically, we will have to add these sites if we want them to add us as well, and they are clearly supporting us. Having media support is one thing, and bending over backwards and begging for it is another. We already have 3 Czech media partners. LWN is probably going to cover it. That makes it 4. I am all for giving free passes, but please, lets not plaster the website with logos of everyone who claims to be a reporter. It is strange to have 5 sponsors and an equal or higher number of media partners. Lets put matters in perspective. LWN has covered GUADEC in the past, and are likely to do so again this year. They come and silently do their job without asking for much in return. LWN is far more respectable and useful for us than any of these other media outlets that we are talking about, and we are not even acknowledging them while we are going crazy over some lesser entities. I find this strange. Cheers, Debarshi -- Life is like bein' on a mule team. Unless you're the lead mule, all the scenery looks about the same. pgpzc00ekOUTw.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
Debarshi, do you remember that we talked about these two requests yesterday over the phone? Otherwise I would not have talked to them. Florian --- Florian Nadge, GUADEC 2013 GUADEC c/o Red Hat| Purkynova 71/99| 61200 Brno| tel: +420 603 764 858 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: Rui, I am afraid that we really need as much media support as possible. About the free passes, we should issue as many as they need, probably one to three. Basically, we will have to add these sites if we want them to add us as well, and they are clearly supporting us. Having media support is one thing, and bending over backwards and begging for it is another. We already have 3 Czech media partners. LWN is probably going to cover it. That makes it 4. I am all for giving free passes, but please, lets not plaster the website with logos of everyone who claims to be a reporter. It is strange to have 5 sponsors and an equal or higher number of media partners. Lets put matters in perspective. LWN has covered GUADEC in the past, and are likely to do so again this year. They come and silently do their job without asking for much in return. LWN is far more respectable and useful for us than any of these other media outlets that we are talking about, and we are not even acknowledging them while we are going crazy over some lesser entities. I find this strange. Cheers, Debarshi -- Life is like bein' on a mule team. Unless you're the lead mule, all the scenery looks about the same. ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
On 8 July 2013 15:53, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: Rui, I am afraid that we really need as much media support as possible. About the free passes, we should issue as many as they need, probably one to three. Basically, we will have to add these sites if we want them to add us as well, and they are clearly supporting us. […] I am all for giving free passes, but please, lets not plaster the website with logos of everyone who claims to be a reporter. It is strange to have 5 sponsors and an equal or higher number of media partners. […] Agreed. It would be good to invite Andreas Proschofsky as well, he has some interest in GNOME and writes about it for derstandard.at ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
On 8 July 2013 16:52, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Lets put matters in perspective. LWN has covered GUADEC in the past, and are likely to do so again this year. They come and silently do their job without asking for much in return. Have we actually been in touch with LWN? Do we know that someone is coming? Nathan Willis is coming, although as far as I know, no one has gotten in touch with LWN yet. ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
Karen, Kat, Thanks for the two names. If nobody else is taking care of the invites I can look int it. Florian --- Florian Nadge, GUADEC 2013 GUADEC c/o Red Hat| Purkynova 71/99| 61200 Brno| tel: +420 603 764 858 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 July 2013 16:52, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Lets put matters in perspective. LWN has covered GUADEC in the past, and are likely to do so again this year. They come and silently do their job without asking for much in return. Have we actually been in touch with LWN? Do we know that someone is coming? Nathan Willis is coming, although as far as I know, no one has gotten in touch with LWN yet. ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
Have we actually been in touch with LWN? Do we know that someone is coming? Nathan Willis is coming, although as far as I know, no one has gotten in touch with LWN yet. We have already asked Nathan if he is visiting GUADEC to cover it on behalf of LWN or just as a participant. Cheers, Debarshi -- Life is like bein' on a mule team. Unless you're the lead mule, all the scenery looks about the same. pgpn7B3etHnR5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
Debarshi Ray píše v Po 08. 07. 2013 v 14:53 +: Rui, I am afraid that we really need as much media support as possible. About the free passes, we should issue as many as they need, probably one to three. Basically, we will have to add these sites if we want them to add us as well, and they are clearly supporting us. Having media support is one thing, and bending over backwards and begging for it is another. We already have 3 Czech media partners. LWN is probably going to cover it. That makes it 4. I am all for giving free passes, but please, lets not plaster the website with logos of everyone who claims to be a reporter. It is strange to have 5 sponsors and an equal or higher number of media partners. I think having 5-6 media partners is OK. As I said, we can make their logos smaller if it makes a problem on the main page. But I agree with Debarshi that we should be selective while choosing media partners. We've only been talking about conditions we have to fulfil, but I haven't seen any conditions for media partners. Someone who writes one, or even two articles about GUADEC is NOT a media partner. The cooperation should be much deeper. There should be some coordinated media campaign the media partners are involved in. But someone has to work with them, instruct them what we need to spread the word about and when, ideally prepare the messages. Anyone willing to pick the ball? Jiri Lets put matters in perspective. LWN has covered GUADEC in the past, and are likely to do so again this year. They come and silently do their job without asking for much in return. LWN is far more respectable and useful for us than any of these other media outlets that we are talking about, and we are not even acknowledging them while we are going crazy over some lesser entities. I find this strange. Cheers, Debarshi ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
On Monday 08 of July 2013 14:53:29, Debarshi Ray wrote: Rui, I am afraid that we really need as much media support as possible. About the free passes, we should issue as many as they need, probably one to three. Basically, we will have to add these sites if we want them to add us as well, and they are clearly supporting us. Having media support is one thing, and bending over backwards and begging for it is another. We already have 3 Czech media partners. LWN is probably going to cover it. That makes it 4. I am all for giving free passes, but please, lets not plaster the website with logos of everyone who claims to be a reporter. It is strange to have 5 sponsors and an equal or higher number of media partners. Lets put matters in perspective. LWN has covered GUADEC in the past, and are likely to do so again this year. They come and silently do their job without asking for much in return. The Czech media have not asked for anything. It was GUADEC who wanted them for partners. They were not the ones who set the terms of the partnership. LWN is far more respectable and useful for us than any of these other media outlets that we are talking about, and we are not even acknowledging them while we are going crazy over some lesser entities. I find this strange. Maybe you should have thought about _before_ you asked me to approach them on your behalf. Robert ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
On Monday 08 of July 2013 18:49:16, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Debarshi Ray píše v Po 08. 07. 2013 v 14:53 +: Rui, I am afraid that we really need as much media support as possible. About the free passes, we should issue as many as they need, probably one to three. Basically, we will have to add these sites if we want them to add us as well, and they are clearly supporting us. Having media support is one thing, and bending over backwards and begging for it is another. We already have 3 Czech media partners. LWN is probably going to cover it. That makes it 4. I am all for giving free passes, but please, lets not plaster the website with logos of everyone who claims to be a reporter. It is strange to have 5 sponsors and an equal or higher number of media partners. I think having 5-6 media partners is OK. As I said, we can make their logos smaller if it makes a problem on the main page. But I agree with Debarshi that we should be selective while choosing media partners. We've only been talking about conditions we have to fulfil, but I haven't seen any conditions for media partners. Someone who writes one, or even two articles about GUADEC is NOT a media partner. The cooperation should be much deeper. Guys, it seems to me that one hand doesn't know what the other one is doing in your organization efforts. There IS quite a specific list of obligations that the media were asked to agree to. When Florian asked me to contact the three Czech magazines (ROOT.cz, AbcLinuxu.cz, LinuxEXPRES.cz) and ask them to be media partners, I requested a detailed list of obligations for both parties. When I was given this list, I approached the media, and they agreed. As I mentioned before, both Rui and Debarshi were a part of that discussion from the very beginning. Now, a week later, people start raising questions and concerns that should've been answered before any of that took place. I fear it is now much too late to start thinking of some sort of a coordinated media campaign. And, last but not least, it is too late to backtrack on the terms that you, GUADEC, put forward. Robert ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 16:12 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: Have we actually been in touch with LWN? Do we know that someone is coming? Nathan Willis is coming, although as far as I know, no one has gotten in touch with LWN yet. We have already asked Nathan if he is visiting GUADEC to cover it on behalf of LWN or just as a participant. He is going to GUADEC on behalf of LWN, as it has been since The Hague (first with Jake, later him). We are paying his ticket and providing him accommodation, as we have done in the past. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Media Partner
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 21:25 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:39:26PM +0200, Robert Kratky wrote: Lets put matters in perspective. LWN has covered GUADEC in the past, and are likely to do so again this year. They come and silently do their job without asking for much in return. The Czech media have not asked for anything. It was GUADEC who wanted them for partners. They were not the ones who set the terms of the partnership. It is not the Czech media that we are primarily talking about here. The bone of contention is how to deal with the new set of reporters that want to partner with us. Personally, I value LWN more than even the 3 Czech media outlets, but since GUADEC is in Brno, I think it is good to have some coverage in the local media. There are at least 2 aspects to keep in mind, it seems we are mixing them here. 1. In broad terms, local media partners or international media partners help to create awareness that a GNOME conference is happening and why it is important. There is always a chance to engage new users/developers or put GNOME in the mouth of people whenever there is a GNOME activity. Media partners help to achieve that. The vision for this is short-term impact. 2. Keep updated the specialized media (like LWN) on what it is going with GNOME, what to expect in the future, who are the people they should get in contact with for specific topics, etc. This is important because whenever they write about GNOME, they will have more background and not guess. This avoid misunderstandings. The vision of this is mid/long-term impact (although there will be articles in the short-term) IMVHO, both of them are important, but they are different things. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
