Re: You're invited to the first patch review session!
That's the link I have https://meet.jit.si/london-guix-meetup Etienne On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:28 AM Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> wrote: > Hi, > > On 2024-03-06 10:40:14 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote: > > > > Looking forward to tomorrow, > > > > I would just like to point out that the link to the jitsi meeting is not > on the > wiki page and was not shared here neither (for those of us who have issues > with > meetup.com). I think it was said before the link would be shared > somewhere, so > please take this as a reminder (since it is tomorrow already). > > Have a nice day, > Tomas Volf > > -- > There are only two hard things in Computer Science: > cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. >
Re: You're invited to the first patch review session!
Anything we need to have prepared by Thursday? I imagine a ubuntu vm running with vanilla guix installed is installed? Etienne On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 7:12 PM Suhail wrote: > Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes: > > > On 2024-02-22 23:27:31 +, Steve George wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> We're going to run some online patch review sessions. The first one is > on *Thursday, 7th March* and you can sign-up here: > >> > >> https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/PatchReviewSessions2024 > >> > >> ... > >> > >> Each session will be hour 1:30 and they are rotating through the week, > so there should be plenty of opportunities to come along. We're using the > Guix London's Meet-up and the sessions run on Jitsi. > > > > Will the Jitsi link be shared somewhere (here, irc, ...) for those of us > who are > > not able to sign up on the page? > > Could the Jitsi link also be shared on the mailing list and/or noted on > the libreplanet wiki? > > -- > Suhail > > >
Re: A Forum for Guix Users
Yes, these are good points: the technicality required for dev work may actually deter newcomers, and therefore perhaps a higher-level online forum for beginners to ask questions could lower the barrier to entry. I am revising my vote in favour of the forum :) Etienne On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:56 PM Distopico wrote: > > I have been using and participating in other GNU distributions such as > Trisquel and Parabola, but mostly as beholder/viewer. > > After more than 10 year the forum of Trisquel still active, not like 8 > years ago before social media, but is active, and more important is used > mostly for new user, and non-technical user, also the Trisquel forum is > well indexed and when you try to find something related with Trisquel > the forums is the solutions for those issues usuall.y > > Trisquel also have mailing list but used mostly for dev/contributor and > the Irc for also for dev/contributors or more advanced users. > > Parabola as well have a forum/Irc/mailing, but in this case the forum is > not quite active, maybe because the focus of parabola is more advanced > users, also as Parabola user as well I also check Archlinux > documentation to try to fix my issues or Archlinux forums because are > more complete. > > So I don't think a forum crate fragmentation, and the Forum is an entry > place for beginners and unlike Parabola that has the documentation of > Arch, Guix need to have your own solutions and your own documentation > and a forum is a good place to build that. > > So said that: > - Forum: A good place for beginner an non-technical user (I guess all > Guix user require some technical knowledge), also a good place for > create history and user documentation/solutions. > > - Irc: For quick question, developer and contributor discussions and > more advanced users (bridge to Matrix would be good). > > - Mailing List: For contributors, developers, and more long-terms > questions, as well more advanced users. > > on the other hand I think that the mailing lists create a more conducive > environment for debate than the forum itself, but again, for new user a > Forum is a better place or to find quick solutions which on Irc are hard > to find. > >
Re: A Forum for Guix Users
Hi! Being somewhat of a beginner myself, or at least a newcomer, I can relate to the steep learning curve. I also attempted the supervision of psychology students on a guix hackathon (as an experiment) not too long ago: utter beginners and we focused on reviewing the documentation, with the idea of creating material for beginners. More on that soon, hopefully. The missing “search” feature that seems to have triggered this thread, is indeed important, from a beginner’s perspective, I think. But I tend to agree with the later post warning about the multiplicity of ways to connect and get information: the information that beginners need really is in the current documentation, which at times can be opaque or confusing (going back and forth between guix system native and guix package manager on a host, without necessarily explicit warning; or possible discrepancies between the manual and the cookbook), and could use a bit of TLC. The way I use the doc, is by loading the latest manual in the browser as one page, and use the search function of the browser. That helps but it also implies I know what I am looking for, and I can fill in the gaps, eg about context (guix system vs host). I don’t think we necessarily need another outlet, and should maybe just consolidate what we have. If ways to connect to the community are explicit (and they currently aren't very visible), I don't think beginners would need another portal or forum, or another way to read issues from git. Also really, reading git commit messages should not be the way to inform beginners. Of note, I currently have access to: (I am hugely grateful to the many people who answered what might have seemed an endless stream of questions on irc.!) - google, as well as the doc and the cookbook - this mailing list and others: guix-devel, guix-help, ... 8 in total and they all have archives: https://savannah.gnu.org/mail/?group=guix - the irc channels, #guix #nonguix #guix-hpc #systemcrafters #systemcrafters-help #guix-offtopic: https://guix.gnu.org/en/contact/irc/ (with logs: https://logs.guix.gnu.org) - the guix-hpc events like monthly cafe guix: https://hpc.guix.info/events/2022/café-guix/ - and the mattermost server by the same people: https://mattermost.univ-nantes.fr/signup_user_complete/?id=njdxbdazafddtq6wsm6cgrr95r Have a great day! Etienne On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 23:39, wrote: > On 2023-07-13 21:52, Sarthak Shah wrote: > > Hey Guix, > > I think we should seriously consider having a user forum similar to > > Debian's User Forum or Nixos' Discourse. > > > > As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their > > problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very easy to > > navigate compared to forum threads. Seeing the situation with RHEL, I > think > > now's the perfect time for us to acquire new HPC/stability-oriented users > > in particular, and I believe that most of them would not be very > > IRC/mailing list-savvy either. > > It would also immensely help to have community discussions and other > forms > > of information concentrated in one location instead of split over the IRC > > and the mailing list. > > > > If we are to go ahead with making a forum, I think I'm speaking for a lot > > of people here when I say that I don't want a forum that cannot be used > > without Javascript or cannot be built/deployed with Guix. Given these > > constraints, Discourse is not a good option as it does not build on Guix. > > phpBB and SMF are two good options we could look into, although they > look a > > little dated compared to discourse. Flarum might also be worth looking > > into, but I am not sure if it will build properly on Guix. > > > > Software suggestions as well as thoughts on this idea would be greatly > > appreciated! > > > > Regards, > > Sarthak. > > A great idea. I would use a forum. I would say just go ahead and set up > a forum yourself, and I'll bring some people along that I know from the > fediverse. > > ~vidak > >
Re: London Guix meetup
Oops. I missed that! Is this a regular thing? Is there a UK community of sort, e.g. online platform, mailing list and so forth? Etienne On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 11:15 AM Arun Isaac wrote: > > Hi all, > > We had a good turnout with 8 attendees. Thank you all for coming! We may > have another meetup in a month or so. Looking forward to seeing you all > again and hope to see new faces too! > > Regards, > Arun > >
