Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-29 Thread swedebugia
On 2019-03-18 14:55, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> 
> Pierre Neidhardt  writes:
> 
>> Ricardo Wurmus  writes:
>>
>>> We have this.  It’s called “btanks”.
>>
>> Shouldn't we name this "battle-tanks"?
>>
>>
>>> I think this one is packaged: see the `crawl' and `crawl-tiles' packages.
>>
>> Shouldn't we name this "dungeon-crawl-stone-soup"?
>>
>>
 Armagetron Advanced - A 3-D variant of the Light Cycles sub-game of the
 classic Tron arcade game. Highly configurable and very fun to play.
>>>
>>> This we have already. :)
>>
>> It's named "armagetronad".  Shouldn't we name this
>> "armagetron-advanced"?
> 
> Instead of renaming the packages (whose names follow our packaging
> guidelines) how about adding the full name of the games to the
> description?

👍

This would have helped me find the packages when I compiled the list :)

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Cheers Swedebugia



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Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-19 Thread swedebugia
Pierre Neidhardt  skrev: (18 mars 2019 16:32:26 CET)
>Ricardo Wurmus  writes:
>
>> Pierre Neidhardt  writes:
>>> It's named "armagetronad".  Shouldn't we name this
>>> "armagetron-advanced"?
>>
>> Instead of renaming the packages (whose names follow our packaging
>> guidelines) how about adding the full name of the games to the
>> description?
>
>That would not help interfaces like Emacs-Guix and
>Helm-System-Packages.
>I think names are more important than having obsolete packages :)
>
>-- 
>Pierre Neidhardt
>https://ambrevar.xyz/

I agree.

What about adding a pretty name to show the user that matches the marketing 
name of the software?

Arch seems to have this and it is used in the gui tools like pamac but not on 
the command line. 
We could solve this by adding a new optional field to the package record 
(pretty-name "Armagetron Advanced")

For the packages that lack this field I would in the gui display them like this:
(name "aircrack-ng") -> Aircrack-ng

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Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-18 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
Ricardo Wurmus  writes:

> Pierre Neidhardt  writes:
>> It's named "armagetronad".  Shouldn't we name this
>> "armagetron-advanced"?
>
> Instead of renaming the packages (whose names follow our packaging
> guidelines) how about adding the full name of the games to the
> description?

That would not help interfaces like Emacs-Guix and Helm-System-Packages.
I think names are more important than having obsolete packages :)

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Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/


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Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-18 Thread Kei Kebreau
swedebugia  writes:

> Hi!
>
> I just went through Julie Marchants excellent list of libre games:
> https://onpon4.github.io/articles/libre-games.html
>
> There are so many! :)
>

I have packages for Adanaxis, Alex the Allegator 4, B.A.L.L.Z.,
Criticalmass and Dopewars. I'll clean them up and upload them when I can.


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Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-18 Thread Ricardo Wurmus


Pierre Neidhardt  writes:

> Ricardo Wurmus  writes:
>
>> We have this.  It’s called “btanks”.
>
> Shouldn't we name this "battle-tanks"?
>
>
>> I think this one is packaged: see the `crawl' and `crawl-tiles' packages.
>
> Shouldn't we name this "dungeon-crawl-stone-soup"?
>
>
>> > Armagetron Advanced - A 3-D variant of the Light Cycles sub-game of the
>> > classic Tron arcade game. Highly configurable and very fun to play.
>>
>> This we have already. :)
>
> It's named "armagetronad".  Shouldn't we name this
> "armagetron-advanced"?

Instead of renaming the packages (whose names follow our packaging
guidelines) how about adding the full name of the games to the
description?

--
Ricardo




Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-18 Thread Ricardo Wurmus


Pierre Neidhardt  writes:

> Dan Frumin  writes:
>
>>> Shouldn't we name this "dungeon-crawl-stone-soup"?
>>>
>>
>> Possibly, but the official packages from crawl.develz.org are called `crawl' 
>> and `crawl-tiles'.
>
> Maybe packagers use abbreviated names, often with underscores or simply
> no word separator.
>
> I think we should not follow what other packagers do, but rather what
> the _users_ expect.  The full program name is much more certain to be
> known to the wider audience rather than some abbreviation that is only
> known to the set of developers / restricted community members.

This is what our packaging guidelines say:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
14.4.2 Package Naming
-

[…]
   Both [variable name and package name] […]
correspond to the lowercase conversion of the project name chosen
upstream, with underscores replaced with hyphens.
--8<---cut here---end--->8---


--
Ricardo




Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-18 Thread Dan Frumin




On 18-03-19 08:25, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:

Ricardo Wurmus  writes:


We have this.  It’s called “btanks”.


Shouldn't we name this "battle-tanks"?



I think this one is packaged: see the `crawl' and `crawl-tiles' packages.


Shouldn't we name this "dungeon-crawl-stone-soup"?



Possibly, but the official packages from crawl.develz.org are called `crawl' 
and `crawl-tiles'.
Maybe it is good to add the abbreviation "DCSS" somewhere in the description 
tho?





Armagetron Advanced - A 3-D variant of the Light Cycles sub-game of the
classic Tron arcade game. Highly configurable and very fun to play.


This we have already. :)


It's named "armagetronad".  Shouldn't we name this
"armagetron-advanced"?

Cheers!





Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-18 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
Ricardo Wurmus  writes:

> We have this.  It’s called “btanks”.

Shouldn't we name this "battle-tanks"?


> I think this one is packaged: see the `crawl' and `crawl-tiles' packages.

Shouldn't we name this "dungeon-crawl-stone-soup"?


> > Armagetron Advanced - A 3-D variant of the Light Cycles sub-game of the 
> > classic Tron arcade game. Highly configurable and very fun to play.
>
> This we have already. :)

It's named "armagetronad".  Shouldn't we name this
"armagetron-advanced"?

Cheers!


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Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-17 Thread Ricardo Wurmus


swedebugia  writes:

> Currently we are missing these (according to
> https://guix.mdc-berlin.de/):

This is not a good general resource as it only shows the current
snapshot used by default at the MDC.

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Ricardo




Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-17 Thread Ricardo Wurmus


swedebugia  writes:

> Battle Tanks - An engaging multiplayer overhead shooter game. Features
> deathmatch and cooperative modes. Includes a nice selection of tanks
> and weapons. When your current tank is destroyed, your character
> ejects from it as an infantry unit and can search for and board a new
> one, or continue fighting on foot.

We have this.  It’s called “btanks”.

-- 
Ricardo




Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-17 Thread swedebugia

On 2019-03-17 17:51, swedebugia wrote:

Hi!

I just went through Julie Marchants excellent list of libre games: 
https://onpon4.github.io/articles/libre-games.html


There are so many! :)

Currently we are missing these (according to https://guix.mdc-berlin.de/):

A7Xpg - An arcade game centered around avoiding enemies while collecting 
as many gold pieces as possible. Centered around a "booster" which 
repels enemies and makes you go faster.


Adanaxis - A first-person 4-D space shooter game. Literally "adds an 
axis" to typical 3-D space shooters for a very unique experience.

Alex the Allegator 4 - A fun, lighthearted, short platformer.

Armagetron Advanced - A 3-D variant of the Light Cycles sub-game of the 
classic Tron arcade game. Highly configurable and very fun to play.


This we have already. :)



B.A.L.L.Z. - Highly engaging action puzzle game centered around a 
character that moves automatically. You start with only one action 
(jumping) and gain two more actions later in the game.


Battle Tanks - An engaging multiplayer overhead shooter game. Features 
deathmatch and cooperative modes. Includes a nice selection of tanks and 
weapons. When your current tank is destroyed, your character ejects from 
it as an infantry unit and can search for and board a new one, or 
continue fighting on foot.


Criticalmass - A simple space shooter game similar in style to games 
like Galaxian with great production value and balance. The game awards 
you with more/better weapons for playing at higher difficulty levels.


Dink Smallwood (GNU FreeDink) - A funny Zelda-style RPG.

Dopewars - A simple game where you buy drugs for cheap and then sell 
them to make a profit, avoiding (or fighting) cops along the way. You 
have one month to make as much money as you possibly can.


Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup - A very fun and well-made dungeon crawl game 
with a nice interface. Find the "Orb of Zot" and then exit the dungeon 
(without getting yourself killed, of course) to win!


Endgame: Singularity - A very fun real-time strategy game from the 
perspective of the Singularity, an advanced A.I. that seeks to 
eventually surpass reality itself. Help the Singularity achieve the 
highest possible state before the humans uncover its presence and 
destroy it.


Flare: Empyrean Campaign - A very fun, engaging, well-balanced, and 
detailed isometric action fantasy RPG about someone who has been exiled 
from their homeland and their quest to regain entry.


Funguloids - A simple arcade game where you control some sort of blob 
thing in space, collecting mushrooms while avoiding asteroids. The thing 
you control moves at a constant speed which increases as you collect 
mushrooms and move through levels, so it gets harder and harder until 
you finally mess up. Great production value and very fun to play.


Gunroar - An abstract naval-themed bullet hell game.

Hex-a-Hop - A fun puzzle game where you have to find the right path to 
clear the board of tiles.


Inside a Star-filled Sky - Progress as deep as you can into an endless 
abstract world. Your actions in the current level affect the state of 
your character in the next level. You can enter into yourself and 
enemies, regressing back a level, to change their properties if you find 
yourself in a pinch. Very unique and challenging.


Jump 'n Bump - A classic multiplayer deathmatch game where you stomp on 
your friends' heads. Features fully customizable graphics, allowing you 
to create any kind of map you can imagine if you are so inclined.


Krank - A puzzle game incorporating elements from Pool/Billiards. You 
have to use a large ball to bump smaller balls into their proper place. 
Includes a lot of variety and gets quite challenging later on.


Konquest - A fun turn-based strategy game which is a twist on the Risk 
board game. Send ships from planets you control to conquer others. Crush 
all other empires and conquer the whole galaxy to win!


Liquid War - A unique real-time strategy game: you tell your liquid what 
direction to move in, and nothing else. Liquid attacks enemy liquid when 
it goes in its direction. Your goal is simply to end up with more liquid 
than all of your opponents when the timer runs out. For such a simple 
concept, it is surprisingly engaging.



Meritous - A fun action-adventure dungeon crawler game.
Micropolis - The libre version of Sim City Classic. This is not a clone, 
but actually directly based on the Unix port of Sim City.


Mindustry - A pixel-styled "sandbox tower defense" game centered around 
building networks to collect materials and then using those materials to 
build defense systems. Fantastic production value and highly engaging, 
with online multiplayer support.


Mirror Magic - A fun puzzle game where you have to use mirrors to 
manipulate a beam.


Mu-cade - A unique abstract shooter game taking place on a ring. Knock 
your enemies off the ring while preventing them from knocking you off.


Nikki and the Robots - A very nice ori

Re: Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-17 Thread Dan Frumin

Hi!

On 17-03-19 17:51, swedebugia wrote:> Hi!
>
> I just went through Julie Marchants excellent list of libre games: 
https://onpon4.github.io/articles/libre-games.html
>
> There are so many! :)
>
> Currently we are missing these (according to https://guix.mdc-berlin.de/):
>
>>  <>>
> Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup - A very fun and well-made dungeon crawl game with a nice 
interface. Find the "Orb of Zot" and then exit the dungeon (without
> getting yourself killed, of course) to win!
>
I think this one is packaged: see the `crawl' and `crawl-tiles' packages.


Best, Dan



Libre games that might be worth packaging :)

2019-03-17 Thread swedebugia

Hi!

I just went through Julie Marchants excellent list of libre games: 
https://onpon4.github.io/articles/libre-games.html


There are so many! :)

Currently we are missing these (according to https://guix.mdc-berlin.de/):

A7Xpg - An arcade game centered around avoiding enemies while collecting 
as many gold pieces as possible. Centered around a "booster" which 
repels enemies and makes you go faster.


Adanaxis - A first-person 4-D space shooter game. Literally "adds an 
axis" to typical 3-D space shooters for a very unique experience.

Alex the Allegator 4 - A fun, lighthearted, short platformer.

Armagetron Advanced - A 3-D variant of the Light Cycles sub-game of the 
classic Tron arcade game. Highly configurable and very fun to play.


B.A.L.L.Z. - Highly engaging action puzzle game centered around a 
character that moves automatically. You start with only one action 
(jumping) and gain two more actions later in the game.


Battle Tanks - An engaging multiplayer overhead shooter game. Features 
deathmatch and cooperative modes. Includes a nice selection of tanks and 
weapons. When your current tank is destroyed, your character ejects from 
it as an infantry unit and can search for and board a new one, or 
continue fighting on foot.


Criticalmass - A simple space shooter game similar in style to games 
like Galaxian with great production value and balance. The game awards 
you with more/better weapons for playing at higher difficulty levels.


Dink Smallwood (GNU FreeDink) - A funny Zelda-style RPG.

Dopewars - A simple game where you buy drugs for cheap and then sell 
them to make a profit, avoiding (or fighting) cops along the way. You 
have one month to make as much money as you possibly can.


Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup - A very fun and well-made dungeon crawl game 
with a nice interface. Find the "Orb of Zot" and then exit the dungeon 
(without getting yourself killed, of course) to win!


Endgame: Singularity - A very fun real-time strategy game from the 
perspective of the Singularity, an advanced A.I. that seeks to 
eventually surpass reality itself. Help the Singularity achieve the 
highest possible state before the humans uncover its presence and 
destroy it.


Flare: Empyrean Campaign - A very fun, engaging, well-balanced, and 
detailed isometric action fantasy RPG about someone who has been exiled 
from their homeland and their quest to regain entry.


Funguloids - A simple arcade game where you control some sort of blob 
thing in space, collecting mushrooms while avoiding asteroids. The thing 
you control moves at a constant speed which increases as you collect 
mushrooms and move through levels, so it gets harder and harder until 
you finally mess up. Great production value and very fun to play.


Gunroar - An abstract naval-themed bullet hell game.

Hex-a-Hop - A fun puzzle game where you have to find the right path to 
clear the board of tiles.


Inside a Star-filled Sky - Progress as deep as you can into an endless 
abstract world. Your actions in the current level affect the state of 
your character in the next level. You can enter into yourself and 
enemies, regressing back a level, to change their properties if you find 
yourself in a pinch. Very unique and challenging.


Jump 'n Bump - A classic multiplayer deathmatch game where you stomp on 
your friends' heads. Features fully customizable graphics, allowing you 
to create any kind of map you can imagine if you are so inclined.


Krank - A puzzle game incorporating elements from Pool/Billiards. You 
have to use a large ball to bump smaller balls into their proper place. 
Includes a lot of variety and gets quite challenging later on.


Konquest - A fun turn-based strategy game which is a twist on the Risk 
board game. Send ships from planets you control to conquer others. Crush 
all other empires and conquer the whole galaxy to win!


Liquid War - A unique real-time strategy game: you tell your liquid what 
direction to move in, and nothing else. Liquid attacks enemy liquid when 
it goes in its direction. Your goal is simply to end up with more liquid 
than all of your opponents when the timer runs out. For such a simple 
concept, it is surprisingly engaging.



Meritous - A fun action-adventure dungeon crawler game.
Micropolis - The libre version of Sim City Classic. This is not a clone, 
but actually directly based on the Unix port of Sim City.


Mindustry - A pixel-styled "sandbox tower defense" game centered around 
building networks to collect materials and then using those materials to 
build defense systems. Fantastic production value and highly engaging, 
with online multiplayer support.


Mirror Magic - A fun puzzle game where you have to use mirrors to 
manipulate a beam.


Mu-cade - A unique abstract shooter game taking place on a ring. Knock 
your enemies off the ring while preventing them from knocking you off.


Nikki and the Robots - A very nice original puzzle platformer with a 
retro style.


Noiz2sa - A fun and c