Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hello, TeX Live situation update: Em quarta-feira, 30 de junho de 2021, às 13:21:56 -03, Maxim Cournoyer escreveu: > Thiago Jung Bauermann writes: > > I was able to build the main TeX Live packages with source tarball > > version 20210325 – the latest on the historic TeX Live FTP site – and > > subversion tag texlive-2021.3 – the latest tag in the TeX Live repo. > > > > Unfortunately issue 48064¹ still happens. On the bright side, I found a > > workaround for it that also works with TeX Live 2020 currently in core- > > updates I will submit the patch with the workaround as soon as testing > > finishes, hopefuly later today. Unfortunately the patch I was testing which just changed some packages to build with pdfTex didn’t work and I ended up sending a patch which simply switches all packages to build with pdfTeX instead of LuaTeX. It’s available on the issue page¹. It didn’t show up on the guix-packages mailing list – not sure why. Ludo reported the problem to the LuaTeX development mailing list (thanks!) and a developer there already mentioned that he would work on it ASAP. > > I will also separately submit patches updating TeX Live to 2021 after I > > build all of the texlive packages, hopefuly in a couple of days. I just finished working on the TeX Live 2021 update. The patches are available on issue 49408². It updates all packages matching “texlive*” but doesn’t add any new one. If I should add new packages, please let me know. In that case I would also need criteria to know which new packages to add. :-) At this point I don’t see anything else related to TeX I could be doing. Feel free to let me know if there’s anything. > Sounds good! Thanks for the update about your progress. Thanks for your feedback! -- Thanks, Thiago ¹ https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48064#15 ² http://issues.guix.gnu.org/49408
Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hello Thiago, Thiago Jung Bauermann writes: > Hello, > > TeX Live situation update: > > Em sexta-feira, 25 de junho de 2021, às 02:00:37 -03, Thiago Jung Bauermann > escreveu: >> Em sexta-feira, 25 de junho de 2021, às 00:34:23 -03, Maxim Cournoyer >> escreveu: >> >> > I had a cursory look at the commits; they look good to me! And the >> > commit messages are very useful in understanding the hows and whys. >> > Make sure to send them to guix-patc...@gnu.org after you are satisfied >> > with the result! >> >> Thank you for having a look! I will certainly submit themt o Guix when I >> manage to get a working build of TeX Live 2021. > > I was able to build the main TeX Live packages with source tarball version > 20210325 – the latest on the historic TeX Live FTP site – and subversion > tag texlive-2021.3 – the latest tag in the TeX Live repo. > > Unfortunately issue 48064¹ still happens. On the bright side, I found a > workaround for it that also works with TeX Live 2020 currently in core- > updates I will submit the patch with the workaround as soon as testing > finishes, hopefuly later today. > > I will also separately submit patches updating TeX Live to 2021 after I > build all of the texlive packages, hopefuly in a couple of days. Sounds good! Thanks for the update about your progress. Maxim
Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hello, TeX Live situation update: Em sexta-feira, 25 de junho de 2021, às 02:00:37 -03, Thiago Jung Bauermann escreveu: > Em sexta-feira, 25 de junho de 2021, às 00:34:23 -03, Maxim Cournoyer > escreveu: > > > I had a cursory look at the commits; they look good to me! And the > > commit messages are very useful in understanding the hows and whys. > > Make sure to send them to guix-patc...@gnu.org after you are satisfied > > with the result! > > Thank you for having a look! I will certainly submit themt o Guix when I > manage to get a working build of TeX Live 2021. I was able to build the main TeX Live packages with source tarball version 20210325 – the latest on the historic TeX Live FTP site – and subversion tag texlive-2021.3 – the latest tag in the TeX Live repo. Unfortunately issue 48064¹ still happens. On the bright side, I found a workaround for it that also works with TeX Live 2020 currently in core- updates I will submit the patch with the workaround as soon as testing finishes, hopefuly later today. I will also separately submit patches updating TeX Live to 2021 after I build all of the texlive packages, hopefuly in a couple of days. -- Thanks, Thiago ¹ https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48064
Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hi Maxim, Em sexta-feira, 25 de junho de 2021, às 00:34:23 -03, Maxim Cournoyer escreveu: > Thiago Jung Bauermann writes: > > It’s possible to build texlive-latex-l3kernel with IniTeX (i.e., by > > calling `pdftex -ini` or `tex -ini`) and docstrip, without any format > > loaded. > It was worth it to ask :-). Indeed! > > So I made some changes to texlive-build-system to that, and it worked. > > By which I mean: the texlive-latex-l3kernel package builds, and the > > texlive- latex-base build is attempted and fails in the same way as it > > was failing when I sent the last email, when generating latex formats. > > I think I’m missing some file(s) with definitions for LaTeX macros, > > but I don’t know yet. > > > > I pushed a new branch “bug-48064-texlive-2021-l3kernel-initex” to my > > GitLab repo at https://gitlab.com/bauermann/guix.git with two patches > > implementing the new approach. > > I had a cursory look at the commits; they look good to me! And the > commit messages are very useful in understanding the hows and whys. > Make sure to send them to guix-patc...@gnu.org after you are satisfied > with the result! Thank you for having a look! I will certainly submit themt o Guix when I manage to get a working build of TeX Live 2021. -- Thanks, Thiago
Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hello Thiago, Thiago Jung Bauermann writes: [...] > I decided to ask on the TeX Live mailing list about the bootstrap problem¹ > (not sure why this didn’t occur to me earlier). It turns out it’s not a > real circular dependency, it just appears so because of Guix packaging. > > It’s possible to build texlive-latex-l3kernel with IniTeX (i.e., by calling > `pdftex -ini` or `tex -ini`) and docstrip, without any format loaded. It was worth it to ask :-). > So I made some changes to texlive-build-system to that, and it worked. By > which I mean: the texlive-latex-l3kernel package builds, and the texlive- > latex-base build is attempted and fails in the same way as it was failing > when I sent the last email, when generating latex formats. I think I’m > missing some file(s) with definitions for LaTeX macros, but I don’t know yet. > > I pushed a new branch “bug-48064-texlive-2021-l3kernel-initex” to my GitLab > repo at https://gitlab.com/bauermann/guix.git with two patches implementing > the new approach. I had a cursory look at the commits; they look good to me! And the commit messages are very useful in understanding the hows and whys. Make sure to send them to guix-patc...@gnu.org after you are satisfied with the result! Happy hacking, Maxim
Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hello Maxim, Em quinta-feira, 24 de junho de 2021, às 15:26:55 -03, Maxim Cournoyer escreveu: > Hi Thiago, > > Thiago Jung Bauermann writes: > > Hello, > > > > Em terça-feira, 15 de junho de 2021, às 16:00:51 -03, Thiago Jung > > Bauermann> > > escreveu: > >> Does anyone have an idea how to break this dependency loop? Do we need > >> to have a package definition for a pre-2019-10 version of LaTeX just > >> to build texlive-latex-l3kernel, and then use that as a dependency > >> for the actual texlive-latex-base package? > > > > I’m pursuing this option. I took the definition of texlive-latex-base > > from the master branch (which doesn’t depend on LaTeX3) and added it > > to my branch as texlive-latex-no-l3 (with a few minor changes to get > > it to build with texlive 2021), and used it as a dependency to build > > texlive-latex- l3kernel. > > > > This worked! Now texlive-latex-l3kernel builds correctly, and the build > > of texlive-latex-base is attempted (instead of just causing Guix to > > max out its heap while trying to process a dependency loop, as it was > > doing before). But the build fails when generating some latex formats > > – a problem I’m still investigating. > > > > But this is progress nevertheless. :-) > > Thumbs up for working and figuring things out for a texlive 2021 > upgrade! Thank you! I was just going to report on recent developments. It turns out that using an older LaTeX to build texlive-latex-l3kernel isn’t necessary. I decided to ask on the TeX Live mailing list about the bootstrap problem¹ (not sure why this didn’t occur to me earlier). It turns out it’s not a real circular dependency, it just appears so because of Guix packaging. It’s possible to build texlive-latex-l3kernel with IniTeX (i.e., by calling `pdftex -ini` or `tex -ini`) and docstrip, without any format loaded. So I made some changes to texlive-build-system to that, and it worked. By which I mean: the texlive-latex-l3kernel package builds, and the texlive- latex-base build is attempted and fails in the same way as it was failing when I sent the last email, when generating latex formats. I think I’m missing some file(s) with definitions for LaTeX macros, but I don’t know yet. I pushed a new branch “bug-48064-texlive-2021-l3kernel-initex” to my GitLab repo at https://gitlab.com/bauermann/guix.git with two patches implementing the new approach. -- Thanks, Thiago ¹ https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2021-June/047156.html
Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hi Thiago, Thiago Jung Bauermann writes: > Hello, > > Em terça-feira, 15 de junho de 2021, às 16:00:51 -03, Thiago Jung Bauermann > escreveu: >> Does anyone have an idea how to break this dependency loop? Do we need to >> have a package definition for a pre-2019-10 version of LaTeX just to >> build texlive-latex-l3kernel, and then use that as a dependency for the >> actual texlive-latex-base package? > > I’m pursuing this option. I took the definition of texlive-latex-base from > the master branch (which doesn’t depend on LaTeX3) and added it to my > branch as texlive-latex-no-l3 (with a few minor changes to get it to build > with texlive 2021), and used it as a dependency to build texlive-latex- > l3kernel. > > This worked! Now texlive-latex-l3kernel builds correctly, and the build of > texlive-latex-base is attempted (instead of just causing Guix to max out > its heap while trying to process a dependency loop, as it was doing > before). But the build fails when generating some latex formats – a problem > I’m still investigating. > > But this is progress nevertheless. :-) Thumbs up for working and figuring things out for a texlive 2021 upgrade! Thank you, Maxim
Re: [core-updates] texlive 2021 bootstrap problem
Hello, Em terça-feira, 15 de junho de 2021, às 16:00:51 -03, Thiago Jung Bauermann escreveu: > Does anyone have an idea how to break this dependency loop? Do we need to > have a package definition for a pre-2019-10 version of LaTeX just to > build texlive-latex-l3kernel, and then use that as a dependency for the > actual texlive-latex-base package? I’m pursuing this option. I took the definition of texlive-latex-base from the master branch (which doesn’t depend on LaTeX3) and added it to my branch as texlive-latex-no-l3 (with a few minor changes to get it to build with texlive 2021), and used it as a dependency to build texlive-latex- l3kernel. This worked! Now texlive-latex-l3kernel builds correctly, and the build of texlive-latex-base is attempted (instead of just causing Guix to max out its heap while trying to process a dependency loop, as it was doing before). But the build fails when generating some latex formats – a problem I’m still investigating. But this is progress nevertheless. :-) > If anyone wants to have a look at what I have so far, I pushed my patch > to branch “bug-48064-texlive-2021” at https://gitlab.com/bauermann/guix I just force-pushed this branch with my current version of the patches. -- Thanks, Thiago
