RE: [h-cost] Introduction
Welcome. Got pictures? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilbert Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Introduction I am a new member who has been lurking a few days. Wow, this is a great list! I am a historical novelist/stay-at-home-mom/costume enthusiast from Maine who is currently making an Empire gown, thanks to Janet Arnold. Other projects included a Spencer from the same volume (_Patterns of Fashion 1, Englishwomen's dresses and their construction, c 1660 - 1860_) and a c 1936 gown from Volume 2 of the series. I got inspired to dive into such projects because of a wonderful costume designer, Hilary Derby (or Darby--I can't quite remember) who created lovely costumes for the Theater at Monmouth, in Monmouth, Maine (the Shakespearian Theater of Maine). Thank you for letting me be a member of this list! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net Creating a Circa 1798 - 1805 Empire Gown http://marjoriegilbert.net/album_30_028.htm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] "Dress in Egypt in the First Millennium AD"
Pritchard, Frances. "Clothing Culture: Dress in Egypt in the First Millenium AD". Manchester: Whitworth Art Gallery, 2006. 25 pounds + 14 pounds shipping to the US Just received my copy of this book from The Whitworth Art Gallery at the University of Manchester in England. Wow. It is an oversized (9.5" x 12") book with 154 pages of photographs, all in brilliant color. The pictures of the sprang alone were, to me, worth the cost. Nancy Nancy Spies Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_ (http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html) Ingvild Josefsdatter, OL Kingdom of Atlantia "But if by 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal'." John F. Kennedy, 14 Sept 1960 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: civil war experts
- Original Message - From: "zelda crusher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At the risk of being obvious, are you sure that Nurse Canant was a female? I'm not 100% positive, but the person in the grave is recorded as being female in the cemetary's records. (Accordingly to out-of-date memory, mind you.) -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] RE: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 584
Friendship Cemetery in Columbus; resting among the soldiers in the center section is a volunteer nurse killed in the battle of Shiloh. The headstone reads Mrs. Canant, Vol. Nurse, CSA. Definitely female. Catalina Sanguinem dumtaxat causam virtutis pendate Message: 8 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:37:33 -0700 From: "zelda crusher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: civil war experts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed At the risk of being obvious, are you sure that Nurse Canant was a female? Laurie, RN, BSN >From: "E House" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [h-cost] OT: civil war experts >Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:52:56 -0500 > >For those of you involved in civil war costuming, I have a slightly odd >request. Do you know any historians, professional or amateur, who know >everything about Shiloh and events around the same time & area? > >See, for the past 15 years, I've had this very frustrating, completely >impossible research project that I've been picking up every few years, and >now that the internet has become such a useful research tool, I'm going to >try to take it up again. Pardon me if my memory is fuzzy on the details, >since it's been a while and I haven't looked back through my info. Anyway, >in Friendship Cemetary, in Columbus, MS, there is a mysterious grave: it's >among the CSA soldiers' grave, but is labeled only "Nurse Canant, CSA." To >the knowledge of the history professor who assigned me this research >project in the first place (the college-two-years-early boarding school I >went to did a "Tales from the Crypt" event every year), no other woman was >officially buried as though she were a soldier (not taking into account >crossdressers) in any CSA graveyard. Obviously, there's an interesting >story in there somewhere, but what on earth did she do to get that honor, >and why didn't they know anything else about her? I researched her as best >I could with local resources, and discovered that she would most likely >have died in the battle of Shiloh, but was unable to find any Canants or >Cannants in the area, or anything else of real use in solving the mystery. > >Hopefully some of you can understand why I can't let this go! A few years >back, I did the rounds of the geneaology websites, with no luck, but I'm >not giving up yet. > >-E House > >___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: civil war experts
She probably didn't die *in* the battle of Shiloh, but from an illness contracted while nursing in the Columbus, MS hospital (either military or private) after the battle of Shiloh. A number of women, in groups and singly, converged in northern Mississippi from across the South immediately after the battle, including the famous Kate Cumming of Mobile who left a journal. Therefore you are not just looking at local women. However, you are lucky in that Canant is such an uncommon name. Have you tried the 1860 and 1870 census search in Heritage Quest? There are no Canants listed in Mississippi, but there are three in Alabama, plus a few more in Georgia. What adult married women named Canant appeared in the 1860 census that did not appear anywhere (allowing for the large movement of people after the war) in the 1870 census? Then you may have to check out places like Tallapoosa County, Alabama, home of the widow Mary S. Canant, age 40, but with small children. Did she die during the war, or just remarry? It certainly won't be easy, but it looks like you've tried the more obvious places already. BTW, she did not appear in _Confederate Hospitals on the Move_, and I have not spotted her in my Southern newspaper research for the Civil War. To tie this back to costuming, the clothing of Northern Civil War nurses is explored in: Hoisington, Daniel. ‘Women of Discreet Manners’: Union Army Nurses and Their Attire.” Citizens’ Companion 4 no. 5 (December 1997-January 1998): 12-19. Vicki Betts E House wrote: I researched her as best I could with local resources, and discovered that she would most likely have died in the battle of Shiloh, but was unable to find any Canants or Cannants in the area, or anything else of real use in solving the mystery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Useful Resource
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:20:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathy Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [h-cost] Useful Resource To: E List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Historical Costume List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 When the itinerant textile/costume research folks are back from Pennsic, some might find this pdf useful: URL: http://www.textilemuseum.org/PDFs/Worldwidetextilecollections.pdf Description: The International Directory of Textile Collections has been compiled by members of staff and volunteers at the Arthur D. Jenkins Library at the Textile Museum in Washington, D.C. Compiled from the Library's resources, the directory lists "museums specializing in textiles, costumes, or rugs or museums listing them among their collections". Locations are listed in alphabetical order. Adobe Reader is required in order to view the document. Thank you for posting this! I'm going to download and hang on to. Also, for people in the U.S., there's a new guide put out by the Costume Society of America listing all clothing and textile collections: http://www.americasclosets.com/guide.htm Kathy/Cait. Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert(Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. Its never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131 Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE:a question about couching gold
Hello, Thanks for the responses. I think in my case it could be that i pull the thread two much, ill have that in note next time. Many thanks Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Five Rivers Chapmanry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: [h-cost] RE:a question about couching gold Bjarne wrote: I have used it in outlinings in my embroideries, and i have noticed, when i take it out of the frame, it has a little tendensy to gather the fabric slightly together. Is this because i use two big distance between each couching stitch? Your problem could be caused by several problems. 1. You're stretching your ground too tightly in the frame and consequently it puckers when released from tension, particularly around metal thread which isn't as elastic as textile. 2. As you surmise, your stitch length between couching stitches may be too long. About 5mm apart is long enough. 3. You may be pulling your couching stitches too tightly. Hope this is of some help. Regards, Lorina Five Rivers Chapmanry purveyors of historical sewing patterns, quality hand-crafted cooperage, re-enactor and embroidery supplies, and more. 519-799-5577 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.5rivers.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: civil war experts
Just asked my historian/civil war buff roommate and he hadn't heard of her, but did a quick search on "nurse canant" on msn and came up with several hits, the first mentioning the marking of one grave marked "Mrs. Canant, volunteer nurse CSA" Alex On 8/20/06, E House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For those of you involved in civil war costuming, I have a slightly odd request. Do you know any historians, professional or amateur, who know everything about Shiloh and events around the same time & area? See, for the past 15 years, I've had this very frustrating, completely impossible research project that I've been picking up every few years, and now that the internet has become such a useful research tool, I'm going to try to take it up again. Pardon me if my memory is fuzzy on the details, since it's been a while and I haven't looked back through my info. Anyway, in Friendship Cemetary, in Columbus, MS, there is a mysterious grave: it's among the CSA soldiers' grave, but is labeled only "Nurse Canant, CSA." To the knowledge of the history professor who assigned me this research project in the first place (the college-two-years-early boarding school I went to did a "Tales from the Crypt" event every year), no other woman was officially buried as though she were a soldier (not taking into account crossdressers) in any CSA graveyard. Obviously, there's an interesting story in there somewhere, but what on earth did she do to get that honor, and why didn't they know anything else about her? I researched her as best I could with local resources, and discovered that she would most likely have died in the battle of Shiloh, but was unable to find any Canants or Cannants in the area, or anything else of real use in solving the mystery. Hopefully some of you can understand why I can't let this go! A few years back, I did the rounds of the geneaology websites, with no luck, but I'm not giving up yet. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: civil war experts
At the risk of being obvious, are you sure that Nurse Canant was a female? Laurie, RN, BSN From: "E House" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [h-cost] OT: civil war experts Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:52:56 -0500 For those of you involved in civil war costuming, I have a slightly odd request. Do you know any historians, professional or amateur, who know everything about Shiloh and events around the same time & area? See, for the past 15 years, I've had this very frustrating, completely impossible research project that I've been picking up every few years, and now that the internet has become such a useful research tool, I'm going to try to take it up again. Pardon me if my memory is fuzzy on the details, since it's been a while and I haven't looked back through my info. Anyway, in Friendship Cemetary, in Columbus, MS, there is a mysterious grave: it's among the CSA soldiers' grave, but is labeled only "Nurse Canant, CSA." To the knowledge of the history professor who assigned me this research project in the first place (the college-two-years-early boarding school I went to did a "Tales from the Crypt" event every year), no other woman was officially buried as though she were a soldier (not taking into account crossdressers) in any CSA graveyard. Obviously, there's an interesting story in there somewhere, but what on earth did she do to get that honor, and why didn't they know anything else about her? I researched her as best I could with local resources, and discovered that she would most likely have died in the battle of Shiloh, but was unable to find any Canants or Cannants in the area, or anything else of real use in solving the mystery. Hopefully some of you can understand why I can't let this go! A few years back, I did the rounds of the geneaology websites, with no luck, but I'm not giving up yet. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT: civil war experts
For those of you involved in civil war costuming, I have a slightly odd request. Do you know any historians, professional or amateur, who know everything about Shiloh and events around the same time & area? See, for the past 15 years, I've had this very frustrating, completely impossible research project that I've been picking up every few years, and now that the internet has become such a useful research tool, I'm going to try to take it up again. Pardon me if my memory is fuzzy on the details, since it's been a while and I haven't looked back through my info. Anyway, in Friendship Cemetary, in Columbus, MS, there is a mysterious grave: it's among the CSA soldiers' grave, but is labeled only "Nurse Canant, CSA." To the knowledge of the history professor who assigned me this research project in the first place (the college-two-years-early boarding school I went to did a "Tales from the Crypt" event every year), no other woman was officially buried as though she were a soldier (not taking into account crossdressers) in any CSA graveyard. Obviously, there's an interesting story in there somewhere, but what on earth did she do to get that honor, and why didn't they know anything else about her? I researched her as best I could with local resources, and discovered that she would most likely have died in the battle of Shiloh, but was unable to find any Canants or Cannants in the area, or anything else of real use in solving the mystery. Hopefully some of you can understand why I can't let this go! A few years back, I did the rounds of the geneaology websites, with no luck, but I'm not giving up yet. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Useful Resource
When the itinerant textile/costume research folks are back from Pennsic, some might find this pdf useful: URL: http://www.textilemuseum.org/PDFs/Worldwidetextilecollections.pdf Description: The International Directory of Textile Collections has been compiled by members of staff and volunteers at the Arthur D. Jenkins Library at the Textile Museum in Washington, D.C. Compiled from the Library's resources, the directory lists "museums specializing in textiles, costumes, or rugs or museums listing them among their collections". Locations are listed in alphabetical order. Adobe Reader is required in order to view the document. Kathy/Cait. Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert(Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. Its never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
