Re: [h-cost] Re: Split drawer's expert?

[Lavolta Press]

I'm going from memory, but this might be in:

Anderson, Ruth Matilda. Hispanic Costume 1480–1530. New York: Hispanic 
Society of America, 1979.


Fran
Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costume
http://www.lavoltapress.com

Kathy Page wrote:
Fran, 


If you can locate that reference somewhere, I'd love to have it.


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[h-cost] Re: Split drawer's expert?

[Kathy Page]

Sunny,
That would be me. I just presented at Kalamazoo on the topic of the Sicilian 
trousseau. I do know that the Met will be publishing a major-league 
documentation book on the same topic in the coming years, I guess they felt the 
need to make me the opening act, rather than the major attraction. *shrug* 
They'll cover way more than I ever could afford to do.

Ask just about anything you want, and I'll do what I can to answer. :-) I have 
info on the Venetian camicia, the Sicilian trousseau, and the chopines in their 
collection.

Kathy
 
Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or 
barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert
(Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. 
It’s never too late to be who you might have been.
-George Eliot
Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. 
Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art.
-Leonardo da Vinci

A while ago, I thought someone from this list went to the Met in NY to look at 
extant 16th cent. Italian chemises and drawers, but I no longer remember 
_who_...
Hope that helps,
-sunny









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[h-cost] Re: Split drawer's expert?

[Kathy Page]

Fran, 

If you can locate that reference somewhere, I'd love to have it. That further 
supports my theory about the Sicilian underwear. Eleonora's wardrobe accounts 
show underwear coming with her from Naples to Florence, but Italians disdained 
the, having the prostitute implication attached. 

Kathy
 
Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or 
barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert
(Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. 
It’s never too late to be who you might have been.
-George Eliot
Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. 
Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art.
-Leonardo da Vinci
Somewhere I have information on the wardrobe of Juana "the Mad" 
(Katherine of Aragon's sister) . . . she wore drawers.








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Re: [h-cost] measurement chart site?

[Sylvia Rognstad]

I can't recall where this came from, but it seems quite thorough.  
Don't forget to click on the link for the diagram.

http://www.insideleg.com/blanksheet.php

Sylvia Rognstad
Divinity Designs and Emeralds
http://www.d-e-designs.com

On May 16, 2007, at 9:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can an body recommend a website where I can find a form of some kind 
that shows all the various body measurements you'd need to take of a 
person if you were going to make clothing or garb for them? I know the 
standard ones (bust, waist, etc.) but I'd really like to find a 
detailed chart that I can use.

Julie
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Re: [h-cost] rings for costume

[Chiara Francesca]

Believe it or not JCPenny has some nice thin band with no decoration rings 
as well, 10k, 14k, and they have the rose gold ones too.


Prices are pretty good too.

Another resource would be your closest college town that has one of those 
beatnik walk through open air shopping areas


Chiara


- Original Message - 
From: "Land of Oz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: [h-cost] rings for costume


Try a pawn shop or your local wal-mart equivalent.  Wal-mart has some 
narrow, light weight 10K wedding rings extremely low priced. They usually 
have at least one in every size to try on and take home that day w/o 
waiting for re-sizing.  Often you can get gold-over-sterling even cheaper, 
and plain sterling bands for next to nothing.


Denise
Iowa
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[h-cost] rings for costume

[Land of Oz]

Try a pawn shop or your local wal-mart equivalent.  Wal-mart has some 
narrow, light weight 10K wedding rings extremely low priced. They usually 
have at least one in every size to try on and take home that day w/o waiting 
for re-sizing.  Often you can get gold-over-sterling even cheaper, and plain 
sterling bands for next to nothing.


Denise
Iowa 


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Re: [h-cost] a cheat's late Victorian hat

[Ruth Anne Baumgartner]

For the plain gold ring, go to an antiques shop. Some sell plain gold  
bands priced more by weight than by aesthetic or antiquarian value  
(so, depending on K, $20-$40 is what I've paid); and in a shop that  
carries "old & collectible" as well as "antique" you have a good  
chance of finding a wedding band that's gold-filled rather than solid  
gold--I've bought a couple of these in the $10-$15 range over the  
years. Why do I need so many wedding bands? I wear a lot of rings at  
a time and like to stack plain bands on one finger. More urgently, I  
direct and costume in community theater and often need to put rings  
on an actor. I've got wedding bands in many sizes! I wouldn't choose  
plastic even if I found it: I like the weight of a "real" ring and I  
do think it reads onstage, and of course the real ring lasts for more  
than one use.


--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer
On May 18, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Elizabeth Walpole wrote:



I'd go super Edward Gorey just for the fun of it. All  
blacklong dramatic
veilmaybe a black fur boa-like stole. Black gloves and a  
large  black
umbrella. Be sure to paint some circles under your moist eyes that  
you keep
dabbing with that huge black lace hanky. And walk around in a  
daze...completely

devastated.


Yep, that's pretty much my vision too melodramatic mourning, as the  
grieving widow. Except the hanky is white bordered with black  
ribbon (authentic Victorian practice for a mourning hanky) with an  
A embroidered on it for my poor lost Albert (it's actually A for  
Anne, my sister but she says she doesn't want it as she uses  
tissues so all I need to do is add a black ribbon border)  
alternatively as the theme is an Irish wake I might ask my Grandma  
if she has any hankys embroidered with a P (for Pam) so I can  
bewail the fate of my poor dead Patrick ;-) I'm also keeping an eye  
out for a plain gold 'wedding' ring when I go shopping, but I don't  
think the prospects are that good (most of that cheap plastic stuff  
is designed for little girls and I don't have small enough hands to  
get away with them).
I went through my cupboard and I was quite surprised at the number  
of black accessories I have, just not a hat or a dress. I've got  
leather gloves (my regular winter gloves) a faux fur stole, a real  
fur muff (though I'm not sure if I'll take that it's my only real  
fur item and it's too precious to me and hard to clean to risk  
stuff getting spilt on it) a black chiffon scarf, a drawstring  
velveteen pouch (one of the first accessories I made for SCA), plus  
a 5m roll of gros grain ribbon (that I didn't end up using on  
another project because I found something better) and a couple of  
black fabrics I can use as trim.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Walpole
Canberra Australia
ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au
http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/

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Re: [h-cost] not Perpignan, but... (stretchy wools)

[E House]

Definitely not crepe; it's a basketweave, plain and simple. Ok, not entirely 
simple! =} It was from fashion fabrics, but I'd be surprised if they still 
have it, sigh.


-E House
(avoiding FFC on account of how they treated Cathy...) 


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Re: [h-cost] a cheat's late Victorian hat

[Elizabeth Walpole]

I'd go super Edward Gorey just for the fun of it. All blacklong 
dramatic

veilmaybe a black fur boa-like stole. Black gloves and a large  black
umbrella. Be sure to paint some circles under your moist eyes that you 
keep
dabbing with that huge black lace hanky. And walk around in a 
daze...completely

devastated.


Yep, that's pretty much my vision too melodramatic mourning, as the grieving 
widow. Except the hanky is white bordered with black ribbon (authentic 
Victorian practice for a mourning hanky) with an A embroidered on it for my 
poor lost Albert (it's actually A for Anne, my sister but she says she 
doesn't want it as she uses tissues so all I need to do is add a black 
ribbon border) alternatively as the theme is an Irish wake I might ask my 
Grandma if she has any hankys embroidered with a P (for Pam) so I can bewail 
the fate of my poor dead Patrick ;-) I'm also keeping an eye out for a plain 
gold 'wedding' ring when I go shopping, but I don't think the prospects are 
that good (most of that cheap plastic stuff is designed for little girls and 
I don't have small enough hands to get away with them).
I went through my cupboard and I was quite surprised at the number of black 
accessories I have, just not a hat or a dress. I've got leather gloves (my 
regular winter gloves) a faux fur stole, a real fur muff (though I'm not 
sure if I'll take that it's my only real fur item and it's too precious to 
me and hard to clean to risk stuff getting spilt on it) a black chiffon 
scarf, a drawstring velveteen pouch (one of the first accessories I made for 
SCA), plus a 5m roll of gros grain ribbon (that I didn't end up using on 
another project because I found something better) and a couple of black 
fabrics I can use as trim.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Walpole
Canberra Australia
ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au
http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/

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Re: [h-cost] Looking for 15th century replica frame-openingstyle purse

[Danielle Nunn-Weinberg]

Thank you!  I will check him out.

Cheers,
Danielle

At 12:00 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:

If you can't find what you want commercially, I highly recommend this fellow.
http://www.hr-replikate.de/englisch/index.html
He does wonderful work, and is reasonable.


Saragrace

  >- Original Message - From: "Danielle Nunn-Weinberg"
  ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:15 AM
  >Subject: [h-cost] Looking for 15th century replica frame-opening 
style purse

  >
  >
  >>Greetings,
  >>
  >>I'm looking for a 15th century replica frame-opening style
  >>purse.  It has a metal circular opening (with a hinged lid) that
  >>the leather pouch hangs from, in case you don't know what I mean by
  >>"frame".  I'm not sure what the actual name of that type of purse
  >>would be. Does anyone know where I can purchase such an item?  I
  >>have yet to turn up a merchant who sells them.  Any help would 
be appreciated.

  >>
  >>Cheers,
  >>Danielle


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Re: [h-cost] Looking for 15th century replica frame-opening style purse

[Danielle Nunn-Weinberg]

Thank you, that is it exactly!  I don't know the name for it either, 
so I was trying to describe as bet I could.  From what I've seen of 
them, not having looked at any closely.  It has to have a lid because 
my husband loses everything.


Cheers,
Danielle

At 11:37 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:

Is this what you're looking for, but with a "lid"?
http://www.answers.com/topic/thomas-howard-4th-duke-of-norfolk-02-jpg

I call mine a "ring pouch" but I have no idea what
it's right name is.

MaggiRos

--- Danielle Nunn-Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I'm looking for a 15th century replica frame-opening
> style purse.  It
> has a metal circular opening (with a hinged lid)
> that the leather
> pouch hangs from, in case you don't know what I mean
> by "frame".


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