Re: [h-cost] sleeve verthingales (farthingales)

[Saragrace Knauf]

Are you talking about the hanging sleeve or the "Leg O' Mutton" type sleeve.  I 
made the latter sleeves for "A Suitable Gown for Her Majesty" and was 
completely successful stuffing them with (unprinted) newspaper and some fine 
netting!.  There was a smaller inner sleeve which had an opening at the seam.  
We just replaced the paper if it got too smooshed.  

I aslo used a strip of rigelene 
http://www.greenberghammer.com/images/Boning/rigelene.jpg
 for the hanging sleeve.  I made casing inside the top of the sleeve, slid the 
rigelene in, and used a pin to hold it in place.  (makes storage easier w/o it)

I have also made actual sleeve farthingales for a mahoitered sleeve using 
rigelene.  This is closer to a true sleeve farthingale, but even in this case 
the rigelene was incorporated into a two part sleeve cap.

If you'd like pictures of either, I can drum them up probably.  I lost all the 
links for my diary on the first dress and haven't bothered (bad me) to fix them 
yet.

Sg
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cin 
  To: h-cost 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:54 PM
  Subject: [h-cost] sleeve verthingales (farthingales)


  Gentle H-costumers,
  I tried asking this question yesterday on the Tudor Tailor mailing
  list with no success.  Perhaps if I cast my net a little wider, I'll
  get an answer...  I'd settle for some speculation, idle conjecture or
  armchair experimentation.
  I there anyone out there in Tudor-land that has made the 1580-90s
  "sleeve verthingales" and wants to share success stories or failed
  experiments?

  I'm interested in creating the sleeves-bigger-than-torso look of the
  Mary Fitton, Elizabeth Buxton, Eleanor Herbert, Eliz Finch, Alice
  Knollys, Mary Rogers, Elizabeth I by John Bettes, Elizabeth I Jesus
  College at Oxford, Elizabeth I "Ermine" and Elizabeth I Grenwich
  portraits. Another good source portrait is Unknown Lady by Wm Segar.
  Back views of these sleeves also seen in "Ball at the court of Henri
  III".
  --cin
  Cynthia Barnes
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[h-cost] Copyright Infringment

[Beverly Azizi]

Duly noted.  I sent the information in a rush and did not intend at 
all to take credit for composing it.  Meant to be a good 
deed.  However, sending the link is a lot easier and I wonder why I 
didn't think of it at the time.  Thanks for the gentle admonition.


Beverly

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[h-cost] sleeve verthingales (farthingales)

[Cin]

Gentle H-costumers,
I tried asking this question yesterday on the Tudor Tailor mailing
list with no success.  Perhaps if I cast my net a little wider, I'll
get an answer...  I'd settle for some speculation, idle conjecture or
armchair experimentation.
I there anyone out there in Tudor-land that has made the 1580-90s
"sleeve verthingales" and wants to share success stories or failed
experiments?

I'm interested in creating the sleeves-bigger-than-torso look of the
Mary Fitton, Elizabeth Buxton, Eleanor Herbert, Eliz Finch, Alice
Knollys, Mary Rogers, Elizabeth I by John Bettes, Elizabeth I Jesus
College at Oxford, Elizabeth I "Ermine" and Elizabeth I Grenwich
portraits. Another good source portrait is Unknown Lady by Wm Segar.
Back views of these sleeves also seen in "Ball at the court of Henri
III".
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [h-cost] leg o'mutton sleeve question

[Sue]

Hi!
You've probably never heard of me since I don't post, but I thought I could 
help. I have a striped wool waist that is very structured.  In the top of 
the sleeve is starched netting drawn up  and  a piece of the fabric lining 
between the netting and sleeve material.  The interesting thing is that it 
has a strip of cloth from the top shoulder to the bottom of leg o'mutton 
sleeve.  It is drawn up tightly so the sleeve will never hang down flat.
By the way, can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe? I am caring for my mother 
now and can't keep up with the mail.

Thanks,
Sue
On 7/23/2007 12:22:20 PM, Dawn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Deredere Galbraith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am going to make an anime costume witch has leg
o'mutton sleeves.
...
> Normally shirts are from lightweight cotton but I wonder if that would
> work well with these sleeves.

Ah, the joys of recreating costumes drawn by people who don't
understand
fabric... :)

If the light cotton is not stiff enough you can line the top half of the
sleeve with heavy net to help it hold its shape. Also, sometimes they
put a stiff ruffle inside the top of the arm to help hold the fabric out.

>
> Should I cut the sleeves on the strait or on the cross grain?

What does your pattern say to do?

When I made my dress a few years ago I cut it on the straight grain.



Dawn

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RE: [h-cost] Gifted fabrics

[Linda Rice]

Denise, this sounds absolutely lovely, a watercolor painting effect. 

Why yes, I DO need to buy more craft supplies. :D Dharma Trading, here I
come! 

Thanks for the inspiration,

Linda


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Land of Oz

If you get to the point where you want to try the artistic route -- I'd
use 
a selection of similar colors and try for an effect similar to "sponge 
painting" on walls.

Silk is so easy to dye -- you can sponge or squirt or drip acid dye in 
random patterns, wrap in plastic and steam (over water or nuke it); then

rinse and repeat as often as you like. Buy some cheap silk scarves to 
practice with if you have something specific in mind (and keep notes!).

I'm thinking of something like a very subtle camouflage (very subtle!) 
Several shades of greens and browns swirled together and overlapping
until 
there is no real "pattern" just one color blending into the next.


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