Re: [h-cost] Re: Halloween and the perception of costume
At 17:05 16/11/2007, you wrote: HAs ANybody got a copy of or know how to get a copy of the Jane Asher..( remember the ORIGINAL Paul McCartney gal back in the 60's?) book for fancy dress or costuming or somthing.. ,I had a copy onece but in all the oves and after an unfortunate 5 year marriage with a book fobic neanderthal...many of my books were destroyed, but this string reminds me of that book. what I remember 1. JAnes own daughter or granddaughter dressed in a little girls Queen Elizabth I jeweled costume made out of thirft shop antique draperies, a humongous paper doily ruff , and jewles out of individually wrapped hard candies like Charmes nestled in gilded hot glue settings with gilded hot glue "couching" drawing hatching patterns between each one...really pretty COOL!!! a grown man ( JAmes Coburn) actually modeling a "jailbird" costume of horizontally srtiped shirt with a convits number written on a card across his chset and the piece de ressistance... huge bird feet . Haly MIlls dress I believe in a huge brightly colored tube with milar hair decorations...( she was a firecraker) I do not remember the title of the book but it was TOTALLY UNFOGETABLE and reminded me even then to keep my sence of humore about all costuming..even the most serious period stuff.. THe LAte GREAT Jante Arnolde ,herself told stories of costuming for the BBC's 6 Wives of HEnry the Eight , which sort of launched her popularity among the unenitiated back then..and yet...she admited that with no budget to speak of,and no time to do it in...she and her "little shop" resorted to thift shop curtains, sometimes tunred insied out and spray painted with cake doilies for templated to make large brocade like patterns and stiffent the fabrics... chuckle. She also said if she had has a clue they were going to be asked for to used in other series...that SHE was to costume much later...she might have paid a bit more attention to whater or not the paints and the goddess know WHAT fabrics were compatible or would eat each other up in storage..chuckkle I'm sorry, but I have to correct you. The person who made the "Wives" costumes for the BBC series was not Janet Arnold, but Jean Hunnisett. Janet was not a costumer but an historian. Jean was on the staff of the BBC at the time, and went on to make all Glenda Jackson's costumes for "Elizabeth R". I helped Jean to refurbish some of the "Wives" costumes when they were on show at Hampton Court in the 1980's, and Coke bottle tops, metal chains, pieces of laces sprayed gold, furnishing fabrics, gum drops (a kind of round sweet), resin were all put to good use. By the time "Elizabeth R" came around the BBC realised they were on to a good thing, and actually gave Jean a reasonably decent budget. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: Costume journal was Re: [h-cost] "Dress at the Court of King Henry Viii"
Beth, I have the Dress book already from David Brown. I went to the Barnes and Nobel site and although they have it listed I don't see a price. Actually I'm the one who wrote the bit about bribery and corruption to get my copy. It is definitely worth the money to me. It is going right into it's place next to Queen Elizabeth's Closet Unlocked. That book is also printed in the UK by Maney publishing as are my Inventories of the Palace of White Hall 1542. I've been in touch with Janet Hogue and she has put me in touch with their marketing manager Alison Holgate who asked what things the SCA might be interested in. I did my best to cover as much as I could and to assure her that there were plenty of people outside the SCA "Period" or even organization who were there ready to be marketed to. She wrote me back with these suggestions: "It sounds like we have got loads of titles that would be of interest. In the way of journals we have... Costume: Journal of the Costume Society Textile History Arms & Armour Exemplaria: A Journal of Theory in Medieval & Renaissance Studies (history, theatre, literature, etc) Medieval Sermon Studies Medieval Archaeology Post-Medieval Archaeology Journal of the British Archaeological Association (?) Vernacular Architecture (?) In books we have: Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd" Some sound a bit peculiar until you realize that Sermons frequently mention articles of clothing that are too high, too tight, too revealing, etc. Archeology is where we find a lot of textile or other finds. Now I have to have her give me some quotes for prices. She was thinking it might be possible to do something on the order of a special rate for people from a particular e-group. Such thoughts need to be encouraged! I did mention that Queen Elizabeth's Closet was a pretty sure winner for those of us into that age. I'm still kicking myself for only buying one of the mispriced ones! Wanda Pease > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Beth and Bob Matney > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Costume journal was Re: [h-cost] "Dress at the Court of > KingHenry Viii" > > > Suzi, > > I'm missing 1-5 and 39+ (need to re-up and get current) of Costume > (Journal of the Costume Society). If you hear of someone with any of > these for sale, please let me know! > > I'm also looking Textile History Vol 18 and Dress #26, 1999. (Journal > of the Costume Society > of America) > > Best price that I could find for "Dress at the Court of King Henry > Viii" in the USA was Barnes&Noble. They say that it will ship Nov > 20... I've had it on order for awhile. > > Beth > > At 08:40 PM 11/14/2007, you wrote: > >Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:12:14 + > >From: Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >At 00:01 04/11/2007, you wrote: > > >I put this on the Renaissance Tailor site, but it might be of > use to someone > > >here as well: > > > > > >Subject: RE: [TheRenTailor] "Dress at the Court of King Henry Viii" > > > > > >I got mine early because I used bribery and corruption. The > publication > > >party for the book was to have been 1 October in England. > Which is why the > > >books are only shipping in time for Christmas. It is > available in the US > > >for $98 for the slipcased Paperback edition (as large as the clothbound > > >version in that it is larger than 8 x 10") from > > > >http://www.oxbowbooks.com/results.cfm/q/Dress%20in%20the%20Court% 20of%20Henr > >y%20VIII/qt/All/ST/QS/StartRow/1(David Brown Book company the US > >distributor Look for Oxbow books and click on the $) > > > >Another nifty is Costume: The Journal of the Costume Society (also a Manley > >publishing item). It is a Quarterly Journal of the Costume Society > >This is an Annual Journal, not a quarterly one - I have very nearly a >complete run, and thankfully, there is only one per year! > >Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Jane Asher book, was Halloween and the perception of costume
The book is called _Jane Asher's Costume Book_ ISBN: 0932086314 and used copies are currently available for as little as $1 US. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Halloween and the perception of costume
Hi Bambi, I own that book and it's wonderful! i think it's out of print but am not certain. I'm still at work, so I can't give you the correct name but will try to remember to do so when I go home. I found it in a second-hand bookstore a few years ago for $4US. It's not the kind of costuming I do and was going to put it back but realized who had modeled some of the costumes and had to have the book for the fun of it. Other than the Queen Elizabeth costume, my two favorites were the elf ona a mushroom (a child who's torso was used, stuffed legs set onto a mushroom shape and the child's legs and feet were the stem of the mushroom) and the jelly fish, which depended on a whole lot of bubble wrap cut in long, flowing streams. Really fun stuff, and possible for almost anyone to make. And yes, she and her costuming partner used all sorts of unexpected things to make these costumes. These are more for a fancy dress party than for trick or treating. LynnD On 11/16/07, Bambi TBNL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HAs ANybody got a copy of or know how to get a copy of the Jane Asher..( > remember the ORIGINAL Paul McCartney gal back in the 60's?) book for fancy > dress or costuming or somthing.. ,I had a copy onece but in all the oves and > after an unfortunate 5 year marriage with a book fobic neanderthal...many of > my books were destroyed, but this string reminds me of that book. what I > remember > 1. JAnes own daughter or granddaughter dressed in a little girls Queen > Elizabth I jeweled costume made out of thirft shop antique draperies, a > humongous paper doily ruff , and jewles out of individually wrapped hard > candies like Charmes nestled in gilded hot glue settings with gilded hot > glue "couching" drawing hatching patterns between each one...really pretty > COOL!!! > a grown man ( JAmes Coburn) actually modeling a "jailbird" costume of > horizontally srtiped shirt with a convits number written on a card across > his chset and the piece de ressistance... huge bird feet . > Haly MIlls dress I believe in a huge brightly colored tube with milar hair > decorations...( she was a firecraker) > I do not remember the title of the book but it was TOTALLY UNFOGETABLE > and reminded me even then to keep my sence of humore about all > costuming..even the most serious period stuff.. > THe LAte GREAT Jante Arnolde ,herself told stories of costuming for the > BBC's 6 Wives of HEnry the Eight , which sort of launched her popularity > among the unenitiated back then..and yet...she admited that with no budget > to speak of,and no time to do it in...she and her "little shop" resorted to > thift shop curtains, sometimes tunred insied out and spray painted with > cake doilies for templated to make large brocade like patterns and stiffent > the fabrics... chuckle. She also said if she had has a clue they were going > to be asked for to used in other series...that SHE was to costume much > later...she might have paid a bit more attention to whater or not the paints > and the goddess know WHAT fabrics were compatible or would eat each other up > in storage..chuckkle > Bambi > > Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Me too - we do > mostly Fantasy / Science Fiction costumes, and we have > several racks of them in the attic, etc. However, probably 98% of > them require knowledge of the source, or at least an appreciation of > SF, to "get" what they are. So what do I wear to work for > Halloween? A 20-year old pirate coat, with suitable shirt and > breeches. People at least "get" pirates. > > There were only about 20 who dressed up, most were "closet > scrounging" costumes. My fave though was a co-worker, who's a bit of > a Goth anyway, who did a pretty good version of Abby from N.C.I.S. > (the TV show). > > Sandy > > At 08:09 PM 10/31/2007, you wrote: > > >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:15:10 -0400 > >From: "Audrey Bergeron-Morin" > >Subject: [h-cost] Halloween and the perception of costume > > > >I know I'm not the only one... > > > >I wanted to go to work all dressed up. I looked at my medieval > >clothing and I just couldn't bring myself to wear this to work. For > >one thing, it would be like cheating. And it wouldn't really be > >something unusual to wear, from my perspective, even if people at work > >have never seen me wearing it. And it would be kind of boring. And, > >also, well... they're not really costumes, are they? > > > >So, with a closet full of beautiful costumes, I had to go out of my > >way to scrounge together a fantasy gypsy outfit... and it's very nice > >too! > > "Those Who Fail To Learn History > Are Doomed to Repeat It; > Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -- > Why They Are Simply Doomed. > > Achemdro'hm > "The Illusion of Historical Fact" > -- C.Y. 4971 > > Andromeda > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL > > I am made
Re: [h-cost] Costume journal
Thanks Debbie. I've sent him an email. All the ones he has listed on his site, I have. Beth At 07:02 PM 11/16/2007, you wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:59:41 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't remember the numbers, but Paul Meekins had a load of these at the re-enactor's market last weekend - more than he usually has. _www.paulmeekins.co.uk_ (http://www.paulmeekins.co.uk) In a message dated 15/11/2007 19:07:39 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm missing 1-5 and 39+ (need to re-up and get current) of Costume (Journal of the Costume Society). If you hear of someone with any of these for sale, please let me know! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Halloween and the perception of costume
HAs ANybody got a copy of or know how to get a copy of the Jane Asher..( remember the ORIGINAL Paul McCartney gal back in the 60's?) book for fancy dress or costuming or somthing.. ,I had a copy onece but in all the oves and after an unfortunate 5 year marriage with a book fobic neanderthal...many of my books were destroyed, but this string reminds me of that book. what I remember 1. JAnes own daughter or granddaughter dressed in a little girls Queen Elizabth I jeweled costume made out of thirft shop antique draperies, a humongous paper doily ruff , and jewles out of individually wrapped hard candies like Charmes nestled in gilded hot glue settings with gilded hot glue "couching" drawing hatching patterns between each one...really pretty COOL!!! a grown man ( JAmes Coburn) actually modeling a "jailbird" costume of horizontally srtiped shirt with a convits number written on a card across his chset and the piece de ressistance... huge bird feet . Haly MIlls dress I believe in a huge brightly colored tube with milar hair decorations...( she was a firecraker) I do not remember the title of the book but it was TOTALLY UNFOGETABLE and reminded me even then to keep my sence of humore about all costuming..even the most serious period stuff.. THe LAte GREAT Jante Arnolde ,herself told stories of costuming for the BBC's 6 Wives of HEnry the Eight , which sort of launched her popularity among the unenitiated back then..and yet...she admited that with no budget to speak of,and no time to do it in...she and her "little shop" resorted to thift shop curtains, sometimes tunred insied out and spray painted with cake doilies for templated to make large brocade like patterns and stiffent the fabrics... chuckle. She also said if she had has a clue they were going to be asked for to used in other series...that SHE was to costume much later...she might have paid a bit more attention to whater or not the paints and the goddess know WHAT fabrics were compatible or would eat each other up in storage..chuckkle Bambi Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Me too - we do mostly Fantasy / Science Fiction costumes, and we have several racks of them in the attic, etc. However, probably 98% of them require knowledge of the source, or at least an appreciation of SF, to "get" what they are. So what do I wear to work for Halloween? A 20-year old pirate coat, with suitable shirt and breeches. People at least "get" pirates. There were only about 20 who dressed up, most were "closet scrounging" costumes. My fave though was a co-worker, who's a bit of a Goth anyway, who did a pretty good version of Abby from N.C.I.S. (the TV show). Sandy At 08:09 PM 10/31/2007, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:15:10 -0400 >From: "Audrey Bergeron-Morin" >Subject: [h-cost] Halloween and the perception of costume > >I know I'm not the only one... > >I wanted to go to work all dressed up. I looked at my medieval >clothing and I just couldn't bring myself to wear this to work. For >one thing, it would be like cheating. And it wouldn't really be >something unusual to wear, from my perspective, even if people at work >have never seen me wearing it. And it would be kind of boring. And, >also, well... they're not really costumes, are they? > >So, with a closet full of beautiful costumes, I had to go out of my >way to scrounge together a fantasy gypsy outfit... and it's very nice >too! "Those Who Fail To Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -- Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm "The Illusion of Historical Fact" -- C.Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 900ad (please correct me if i have the date wrong!) - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re:Costume journal
I don't remember the numbers, but Paul Meekins had a load of these at the re-enactor's market last weekend - more than he usually has. _www.paulmeekins.co.uk_ (http://www.paulmeekins.co.uk) In a message dated 15/11/2007 19:07:39 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm missing 1-5 and 39+ (need to re-up and get current) of Costume (Journal of the Costume Society). If you hear of someone with any of these for sale, please let me know! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric Shopping in China
At 12:11 AM 11/16/2007, you wrote: My sister has just found out that she's going to Shanghai next week. Can anyone tell me what kind of silk, or other cool fabric, she might be likely to find there, and what's a good price for it? Margo I did my shopping in Hong Kong, so I can't say anything about prices, but as for fabric, you should be able to find just about anything you want. I got silk, rayon, and cotton. Linen may be tougher, but I know that there is a large suit making business there, so any sort of suiting (man made, linen, wool) should be available. Sounds like fun. Genie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fabric Shopping in China
My sister has just found out that she's going to Shanghai next week. Can anyone tell me what kind of silk, or other cool fabric, she might be likely to find there, and what's a good price for it? Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
