[h-cost] Clothing from 1890 - 1910, eastern U.S.

2008-05-17 Thread Cozit / Liz
OK, I admit it - I know a fairly bare minimum about this period.  
Generic Victorian upper and lower, and "generic" Edwardian upper/lower 
both highly corsetted and moving towards flapper wear.

But - I've been asked to teach my 4th graders part of their social 
studies unit for the quarter (I teach Library Media - not social 
studies), and while history is enough of a interest for me to be able to 
cover what I *need* to, I realized  that clothing had been left out of 
the unit... and since I'm changing the unit a bit anyway...  well, my 
thought was that the clothing changes between 1890 and 1910 show a heck 
of a lot about how people both worked and played *and* how many beliefs 
were rapidly changing... so I'd *love* to include a few pictures that I 
could show in a PowerPoint, fading from one to another.  I've got the 
same set up for a few pictures (yes, don't worry, well within the "Fair 
Use" range of copyright rules) of Baltimore from "now" back to "then"... 
and vice versa... but I have nothing with *people*, beyond one shepherd 
in Druid Hill Park... and he's not really all that distinctive, y'know?

Anyone able to point me to just a few pictures I can use?  I'm hoping 
for male and female, child and adult... from those three general 
clothing types... well, four really, if I consider general lower working 
class in there as well.

Sigh... this is what I get for coming up with "intersesting" ideas at 
the last moment, I guess...

-Liz   (gotta hit a library again tomorrow... and just my luck, my 
preferred one is across the street from a very crowded Wine Festival... 
which means little to no parking available...)

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Re: [h-cost] Religious symbols in jewellery, was Renaissance dress

2008-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, I did say "Papist' not 'Catholic'- I do realize that there's a 
difference. Henry continued to consider himself a good Catholic while 
denouncing the 'Bishop of Rome'. 

I also said 'crucifix' not 'cross'- once again there's a distinction. A cross 
is bare while a crucifix has the dead guy on it. 

Karen
Seamstrix

-- monica spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Henry VIII considered himself a good Catholic til the day he died, even
though the Pope did not. :-) There are lots of examples of people wearing
crosses in that period -- check out those done by Holbein.

As for the later period... maybe. Charles I was notoriously sympathetic to
Catholics because of Henrietta Maria, his wife.
Monica

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Karen wrote:

>I think that you have a good idea about the skirt but you may be a bit off
base on the necklace. If you look
>closely at the vertical elements you can see they form the initials I and
H. In period it was
>common/fashionable to wear the symbol of 'IHS' which are the Latin initials
of Jesus. It was particularly used in >the Protestant countries (I'm most
familiar with England) because wearing a crucifix was out of favor as
>being too Papist. Personally, I think this is the most likely explanation
although the wearing of initials/symbols of >significant people is not out
of the question.

That's interesting. My living history persona is the widow of a Gentleman of
the Chapel Royal in the 1640s. I've wondered about wearing a cross, but
decided against it as I felt that it would have been considered "too Papist"
at the time.

Kate Bunting
Cataloguing & Data Quality Librarian
University of Derby

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[h-cost] Reference question

2008-05-17 Thread Lauren Walker
Hi, all,
Do you know, has anyone done a modern reprint of:
An Account of the robberies committed by John Morrison, and his  
accomplices, in and near Philadelphia, 1750 : Together with the  
manner of their being discover'd, their behaviour on their tryals, in  
the prison after sentence, and at the place of execution.
   Philadelphia, : Printed [by Anthony Armbruster?], in the year 1750-1.

T.H. Breen (among others) refers to it as containing detailed lists  
of everything Morrison stole. I can download it from the networked  
(online) resources of the Harvard Library, but I thought it possible  
someone had reprinted it.

Thanks!
Lauren

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Re: [h-cost] Religious symbols in jewellery, was Renaissance dress

2008-05-17 Thread monica spence

Henry VIII considered himself a good Catholic til the day he died, even
though the Pope did not. :-) There are lots of examples of people wearing
crosses in that period -- check out those done by Holbein.

As for the later period... maybe. Charles I was notoriously sympathetic to
Catholics because of Henrietta Maria, his wife.
Monica

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--
Karen wrote:

>I think that you have a good idea about the skirt but you may be a bit off
base on the necklace. If you look
>closely at the vertical elements you can see they form the initials I and
H. In period it was
>common/fashionable to wear the symbol of 'IHS' which are the Latin initials
of Jesus. It was particularly used in >the Protestant countries (I'm most
familiar with England) because wearing a crucifix was out of favor as
>being too Papist. Personally, I think this is the most likely explanation
although the wearing of initials/symbols of >significant people is not out
of the question.

That's interesting. My living history persona is the widow of a Gentleman of
the Chapel Royal in the 1640s. I've wondered about wearing a cross, but
decided against it as I felt that it would have been considered "too Papist"
at the time.

Kate Bunting
Cataloguing & Data Quality Librarian
University of Derby

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Re: [h-cost] Religious symbols in jewellery, was Renaissance dress

2008-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know if the fashion lasted as late as 1640. I know that it was current 
from approximately 1530 (there's a painting of Jane Seymour where she is 
wearing a jeweled IHS brooch) thru the late Elizabethan/Jacobean. I'd take a 
look at period portraiture and check thru some inventories to see if they were 
stll doing it pre-Civil War.
 
Karen
Seamstrix

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--
Karen wrote:

>I think that you have a good idea about the skirt but you may be a bit off 
>base on the necklace. If you look
>closely at the vertical elements you can see they form the initials I and H. 
>In period it was
>common/fashionable to wear the symbol of 'IHS' which are the Latin initials of 
>Jesus. It was particularly used in >the Protestant countries (I'm most 
>familiar with England) because wearing a crucifix was out of favor as
>being too Papist. Personally, I think this is the most likely explanation 
>although the wearing of initials/symbols of >significant people is not out of 
>the question.

That's interesting. My living history persona is the widow of a Gentleman of 
the Chapel Royal in the 1640s. I've wondered about wearing a cross, but decided 
against it as I felt that it would have been considered "too Papist" at the 
time.

Kate Bunting
Cataloguing & Data Quality Librarian
University of Derby

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Re: [h-cost] Religious symbols in jewellery, was Renaissance dress

2008-05-17 Thread Kate M Bunting

--
Karen wrote:

>I think that you have a good idea about the skirt but you may be a bit off 
>base on the necklace. If you look
>closely at the vertical elements you can see they form the initials I and H. 
>In period it was
>common/fashionable to wear the symbol of 'IHS' which are the Latin initials of 
>Jesus. It was particularly used in >the Protestant countries (I'm most 
>familiar with England) because wearing a crucifix was out of favor as
>being too Papist. Personally, I think this is the most likely explanation 
>although the wearing of initials/symbols of >significant people is not out of 
>the question.
 
That's interesting. My living history persona is the widow of a Gentleman of 
the Chapel Royal in the 1640s. I've wondered about wearing a cross, but decided 
against it as I felt that it would have been considered "too Papist" at the 
time.

Kate Bunting
Cataloguing & Data Quality Librarian
University of Derby

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