Re: [h-cost] Fwd: technique used?
Similar partlet http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Angelo_Bronzino_045.jpg http://tinyurl.com/5bbalc This could be pin tucking or a another technique that I am not familiar with. example of pin tucking or fabric origami(?) http://www.flickr.com/photos/elelvis/sets/72157594523457921/ http://www.brother-usa.com/usaimages/AccessoryImages/Large/sa162.jpg http://tinyurl.com/56arac De -Original Message- I've always had the idea it was pressing. Otherwise, I have no idea MaggiRos 2008/8/10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I saw this painting at the National Gallery of Art today and was intrigued > by the ridging on the under dress with it's parallel, wavy lines. Was > this > done by stitching, and if so, how? > > _A Young Woman and Her Little Boy - Image_ > (http://www.nga.gov/fcgi-bin/timage_f?object=1143&image=2109&c=gg21) > > -- Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback or your favorite online bookseller ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fwd: technique used?
It is called Pin Tucking. Now a day's though if you want to find a book on it they call it fabric origami. :) Remember those cushions grandma had in her house? That be what this is, pin tucking. Very beautiful. I have one costume where the sleeves are made from a scrap of fabric that was meticulously folded into a beautiful pattern. When I tracked the fabric down for more it was something like 30/yard. ♫ Chiara Francesca > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Maggie > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:51 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fwd: technique used? > > I've always had the idea it was pressing. Otherwise, I have no idea > > MaggiRos > > 2008/8/10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > I saw this painting at the National Gallery of Art today and was > intrigued > > by the ridging on the under dress with it's parallel, wavy lines. > Was > > this > > done by stitching, and if so, how? > > > > _A Young Woman and Her Little Boy - Image_ > > (http://www.nga.gov/fcgi-bin/timage_f?object=1143&image=2109&c=gg21) > > > > > > > -- > Maggie Secara > ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 > ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 > Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback or your > favorite > online bookseller > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fwd: technique used?
I've always had the idea it was pressing. Otherwise, I have no idea MaggiRos 2008/8/10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I saw this painting at the National Gallery of Art today and was intrigued > by the ridging on the under dress with it's parallel, wavy lines. Was > this > done by stitching, and if so, how? > > _A Young Woman and Her Little Boy - Image_ > (http://www.nga.gov/fcgi-bin/timage_f?object=1143&image=2109&c=gg21) > > -- Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback or your favorite online bookseller ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fwd: technique used?
I saw this painting at the National Gallery of Art today and was intrigued by the ridging on the under dress with it's parallel, wavy lines. Was this done by stitching, and if so, how? _A Young Woman and Her Little Boy - Image_ (http://www.nga.gov/fcgi-bin/timage_f?object=1143&image=2109&c=gg21) Thanks. Just a fascinating painting, textile-wise. Nancy Nancy Spies Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_ (http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html) "If by a 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to say I'm a 'Liberal'." John F. Kennedy, 14 September 1960 **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] wrapping turbans
I'm reading week-old mail, so my appolgies if this has been linked already: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkpuxcNdGc0 video of wrapping a turban. There is another called 'how to tie a turban' that I didn't watch. Denise ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Quick change artists
On Friday 08 August 2008 6:21:37 pm Wendi Dunlap wrote: > Robin Netherton wrote: > > Absolutely amazing. I think -- after replaying multiple times -- that > > the green one unfolds from the shoulders into the blue one, but I can't > > figure out the rest of them, and even with unfolding, I can't imagine > > how you could fit more than two or three in any one garment. > > http://home.comcast.net/~x.watermist/Non.html explains how it works. > > It's very cool, even if you know the secret. :) Thanks! This is extremely educational. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny."--Edmund Burke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Quick change artists
On Friday 08 August 2008 5:03:37 pm Robin Netherton wrote: > This is definitely costume, but not historical, so this is OT, but I had to > show this around. Or am I the last person to know about this? The video has > been up for a couple of years: > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-wUgnyGv0 Incredible. Thanks for sending the URL. [snip] > Whatever technology they use, I wonder if it could be used to create a > series that takes you through time, e.g. decade by decade in the 1900s. > (OK, so now at least this post is historical.) I doubt it. It looks to me as though all of the costumes (at least for the woman) are of extremely thin, drapey fabric. In addition, I saw no evidence of a change of underwear. I doubt you could get the right silhouettes for historical costume, even for the 1900s, with such fabrics. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny."--Edmund Burke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Wal-Mart fabric dept.
Our local Wal-Mart pretty much specializes in tacky polyesters, so I don't use it much, and won't care if they cease to carry fabric. In addition, I live near the Philadelphia fabric district, am within a 2-hour drive/train ride of the New York fabric district, and have access to plenty of on-line sources. ;-) It's my experience that Wal-Mart stocks better goods, and a better variety of goods, if it's located in a more rural area where people are more likely to depend upon it. I could be wrong about that, though, as I haven't been to that many different Wal-Mart locations. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny."--Edmund Burke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walmart fabrics
Alas, though, fabric stores in general just aren't doing that well, as people aren't sewing as much. Is fewer sewers necessarily the reason? I think part of it is that many fabric sales may be made on the net these days. That's how I I've bought most of my fabric for several years. It's a lot easier when you work long hours--on the net you can buy fabric any time of day without taking the time to drive anywhere. No, buying on the net is not as much fun as browsing a good fabric store--and the San Francisco Bay Area is blessed with numerous good independents. The tactile experience is missing, and getting swatches (which I seldom do) is slow. Yes, the color can turn out to be a bit different from the way it looks on my monitor. But I almost always buy fabric when I see it and decide what to do with it later, so I seldom run into problems with buying the wrong weight or color for a specific project. I buy a lot of vintage tablecloths and trims on eBay and stockpile those. "Buy it when you see it" is definitely the best strategy for vintage items. I only go to Jo-Ann's for notions, and then only because there is one in a mall a fairly short drive away. I've never set foot in a Wal-Mart in my life. I try to stockpile notions too--I bought a huge lot of hooks and eyes, and similar things, in bulk from Greenberg & Hammer--but there are times when I need some different notion in a hurry. There was a quilting store a few streets over, where I could buy thread and hand sewing needles--but they went out of business. I only see labeling problems at discount stores, the kind of places that sell garment manufacturer over-buys. There is a chain called Discount Fabrics here that only vaguely labels most fabrics--like putting up a big row of "cottons" that clearly includes some blends when you look at the fabrics. There is a Discount Fabrics near my dentist's, and I usually go there on the way home after having my teeth cleaned. It's an OK store, I've bought some good things there, but it's definitely a place for serendipity rather than planned purchases. So why is it there that I usually go in person, rather than to the several much better fabric stores in the area (Britex, Poppy, Satin Moon?) Because I don't have to make a special trip, I'm already practically there anyway. And going to either Britex (downtown) or Satin Moon (in San Francisco's most congested restaurant district) is a parking nightmare. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com I can only get to NY once a year, at most, and I don't want to shop for everything on line--I'm too tactile for that, so I'll miss the local outlets if they all go away. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics--veering OT and a rant
-Original Message- De: This is true, most don't give a response but the "canned" response comes across as impersonal and almost as if they're blowing you off. I do not have a dislike for Wal-Mart, just some of their decisions. I think that getting a bad sales clerk is a luck of the draw as I have fairly good relations with my stores sales clerks. I know that Wal-Mart fabrics help keep Joann's in check with their prices like Kmart used to do with Wal-Mart before the local Kmart went away. Staffing the fabric department isn't easy. As an employee you start out needing to be a "jack of all trades" so that even if you are in one department they want to be able to temporarily shuttle you to another if the case arises. <> De: Joann's has their agenda but does need input from their "loyal" customers so they can try to tweak the local stores if the tweaking doesn't take it to far from the agenda and makes money for them. Always ask the manager at a JA if they can carry something and they can always check it out. The more people that ask for it, the more likely they will try to work it out to carry it. It took 2 yrs but enough people asked for linen that they now carry a really good selection at my store. They can't get in the white sheer 100% linen but they do have the cotton/ linen blend that works great for Italian ren. camicia and partlet. Something that Joann's did after several had suggested was having the holiday fabrics come out several months early. X-mas fabric used to come out in October, now it starts in out in July. <> De: I think that the "aren't sewing as much" is a regional thing and maybe there is sewing but sewing of a specific type. Here in my town the Jr Highs teach HomeEc (or Human Environmental Sciences) and their sewing projects are simple pillow, jockey shorts, handbags, tree skirtsetc. The High school's HE sewing project is an apparel item(s). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 297
Well, Moda is now out of print and QEWU has not been retired as yet, so I would suggest you get Moda, and then save again for QEWU. So while I think you would gain some great information with that book as well. Cilean On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:00 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Send h-costume mailing list submissions to >h-costume@mail.indra.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Moda a Firenze or Queen Elizabeth? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 2. Re: Moda a Firenze or Queen Elizabeth? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 3. Re: Moda a Firenze or Queen Elizabeth? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 4. Re: Moda a Firenze or Queen Elizabeth? (Maggie) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:30:28 + > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze or Queen Elizabeth? > To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Historical Costume" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: >< > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi there, > Actually Moda is in both Italian and English (on the same page!! ). I love > QEWU. If you are just starting out in this field, then I think that is the > book to start with. > > Etiennette > > -- Original message -- > From: Maggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Also QEWU has the great virtue of being in English. I believe Moda is > still > > only in Italian, which means great pictures but you may not always know > what > > you're looking at. > > > > MaggiRos > > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Saragrace Knauf wrote: > > > > > My vote would be QEW. It meets your requirements and has just great > > > fundamental knowledge that seems to be becoming the standard. The other > > > book is lovely too, but if I had to pick it would be QEW. > > > > > > Sg > > > > > > > -- > > Maggie Secara > > ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 > > ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 > > Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback or your > favorite > > online bookseller > > International readers may want to use > > http://www.amazon.ca/Compendium-Common-Knowledge-1558-1603/dp/0981840108 > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:30:28 + > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze or Queen Elizabeth? > To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Historical Costume" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: >< > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi there, > Actually Moda is in both Italian and English (on the same page!! ). I love > QEWU. If you are just starting out in this field, then I think that is the > book to start with. > > Etiennette > > -- Original message -- > From: Maggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Also QEWU has the great virtue of being in English. I believe Moda is > still > > only in Italian, which means great pictures but you may not always know > what > > you're looking at. > > > > MaggiRos > > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Saragrace Knauf wrote: > > > > > My vote would be QEW. It meets your requirements and has just great > > > fundamental knowledge that seems to be becoming the standard. The other > > > book is lovely too, but if I had to pick it would be QEW. > > > > > > Sg > > > > > > > -- > > Maggie Secara > > ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 > > ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 > > Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback or your > favorite > > online bookseller > > International readers may want to use > > http://www.amazon.ca/Compendium-Common-Knowledge-1558-1603/dp/0981840108 > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:40:09 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Moda a Firenze or Queen Elizabeth? > To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; >format="flowed" > > All other things being equal, I would buy Elizabeth and save up for > Moda next time. Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe has more of the wonderful > details about who made what and with what tools; it's more of a > snapshot of Elizabethan clothing industry, with an emphasis on Royal >
Re: [h-cost] Fabric shops, was walmart fabrics
BTW, We have independent fabric shops in this area, and I shop in them once in a while. The biggest problem with them is that they never seem to have heard of the Textile Products Identification Act. Much of the fabric is not labeled at all, so it is a crap shoot as to what one is getting. Sure I sneak a few fibers and take them out and burn them sometimes, but that isn't foolproof. And the customer service in these stores is a real mixed bag, too. Ann Wass **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics--veering OT and a rant
Even though it is a canned letter, that doesn't mean it wasn't a reasoned response, and it indicates that someone has done something. One doesn't always get any kind of response. Sorry, I just get really tired of constant Walmart bashing. I don't work for them, don't own stock, etc. But, to me, Walmart is the epitome of the American experience. Sam Walton started with one single Ben Franklin store and went from there. I was disappointed when, in Mississippi, Walmart bought out Gaylord's and didn't put in a fabric department, which, of course, Gaylord's didn't have. That was in the mid-1980s. I will be sad if they close ALL the fabric departments, but the "canned" letter makes it sound like they don't plan to do so, and I'll add my voice to others and let them know how I feel. I've had an experience of needing a yard of ribbon at 11:00 at night at Walmart and not being able to find anyone to cut it. (Of course, how many places can you even shop for ribbon at 11:00 at night?) But I've had a dreadful lack-of-customer-service experience at Hancock Fabrics, too. And the big local Super JoAnn's that opened in our area about ten years ago got rid of all the great exotic silks and wools within a couple of years--I assume they just didn't sell. Alas, though, fabric stores in general just aren't doing that well, as people aren't sewing as much. I can only get to NY once a year, at most, and I don't want to shop for everything on line--I'm too tactile for that, so I'll miss the local outlets if they all go away. I live in the DC area, and I have seen a great decline in variety at G Street (and I don't think it is just the new generation running the place--I still think it boils down to PEOPLE AREN'T SEWING AS MUCH. During the last sale, I went with my additional 25% off coupon and had a hard time finding ANYTHING I wanted to buy.) Okay, enough of my rant. Ann Wass **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
