Re: [h-cost] Double-sided velveteen
Bad girl Joan! My fingers are starting to twitch towards my credit card. Looks loverly! The colors are goregeous. I'd order a swatch, or a small piece and wash it in the wash machine...it makes a BIG difference with 100% velvet/teen. Sg Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:35:05 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Double-sided velveteen I just received my regular email from fabric.com. They are having a sale on double-sided velveteen. Here's the URL: http://www.fabric.com/CategoryDetail.aspx?CategoryID=f77efb13-f39f-4057-949e-6aaef12352be It might well be too heavy for clothes, though. Has anyone used this fabric before? Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for bad examples)
On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Chris Laning wrote: I also have a friend who finds that a normal 16th-century corset and fitted gown cause too much of the weight of the skirt to be carried by her hips and lower back, which she finds very painful. She does much better with something where most of the weight of the dress hangs from the shoulders (loose gowns, for instance, although she can also wear a fitted gown with a few bones but not a full corset). In her case, the medical problem is nerve damage. If there's nerve damage, anything corset-like might end up being uncomfortable, but in general, a well-fitted 16th-century corset and farthingale take the pressure *off* of the lower back and hips. That is, if you do three things: make the corset with straps, make sure the corset fits correctly (especially that it isn't too long), and tie the farthingale to the corset. I don't have any medical issues, but I did have problems with lower back pain with my Elizabethans until I started tying my farthingale to my corset. Once you do that, the pressure of the skirts should be distributed up the torso and through the shoulders rather than falling on the hips. The issue with corsets being cut too long is one that I find frequently, especially with larger figures. People gain weight differently, but for some, the apparent waistline drops as they get larger, and they tend to want the waistline of their corset to be where they wear the waistline of their clothing. This generally results in the waistline of the corset being too low--sometimes so low that it's sitting on the hipbones and throwing the whole fit off as well as causing lower back issues. For corsetry in general, the location of the waist should be judged by finding the bottom of the ribs and the top of the hipbones and aiming midway in between. On larger figures, this can result in an uncomfortable bulge of flesh below the bottom of the corset, and in that case try the styles that have tabs on the bottom and continue the boning of the body of the corset to the bottom of the tabs. That will dissipate the compression of the corset comfortably rather than creating a hard line that cuts into the midsection. Of course, if you're doing the longer 19th-century corsets, you don't have worry about it as long as you get the waistline in the right place. Melanie Schuessler (who spent four years draping for an opera company) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for bad examples)
Good Day, Please try using a cotton camisole under the corset and per Renaissance Corp, larger ladies will roll small tea towels (white only it seems) and place under the breasts but I find this bothersome and they can slip.. Personally, I hate trying to be a size 4-6 when I am a size 20, and my corsets do not close all the way in back...I like to breath too much. No one sees them and the bodice or surcoats cover the backs anyway and on hotter days that helps stay a wee bit cooler. Ladies , we no longer need to kill ourselves. By the end of the day it is nice to get out of a corset but I find my back hurts less from wearing one and have thought on several days why not wear one all the time...just not so tight one can not breath. Hope my wee input helps on this issue... Ladye Paige in Virginia ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for bad examples)
Hello, I too have that tummy area problem but have used a tabbed corset for many years but never lace it all the way up the back. Tabs come over the hip area slightly and when I am being laced, I ask someone to start at waist not bottom of corset, and I .never close the corset all the way ( I like to breath ) unless some deft gentleman who my be assisting with the chore manages to lace it tighter than usual and gets the back closer together...you might find your tummy area won't poof so much when sitting and the more open back of the corset lets you back stay cooler and who is seeing it...only you know with areas such as VA, MD and PA, high humidity is quite an issue and then so is Wisconsin area...we just want to look the part...we are not really needing to be size 4-5 waists and 5' frames (unless that is what you are)..lets not forget that people have changed in our frame build since the 1500-1600's. By the way, I wear this same corset for Renn Clothing, Victorian and now my Colonial. My corset fits nicely and why fool with another style that might not be as comfortable...The corset is really intended to give a smooth appearance is it not? Enough input from a size 20, nearing 60's lady in Va. Ladye Paige ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues- interior pillows?
The pillows I´ve seen in theatrical costumes appear to be as wide as the distance between the two lowest points of an underwire bra´s wires and reach down to the point where the ribs emerge from the breast bone, sort of a padded triangle in the corset. Another option is to put small pads (about the size of shoulderpads, but not bent) right under each breast. This is also good for ladies with small breasts - there are only a few days of the month when I have an A-cup, but the pads let me have really pretty apples in rococo-neckline. ;-) Hanna At 23:20 03.10.2008, you wrote: ok honey, everybodies brests are different and place slightly differently. the best way to do it is to do a mock up corset ouf ot muslin then try it on and not where thegap under the breasts is.. and make a ittle cotton or linen pillow or roll and tack it in..it will take a little trial and eror but it int that hard. Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad see me dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0 --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Natalie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Natalie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues- interior pillows? To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:11 PM Sorry, I should have been more clear. By sources, I meant some images of how this is done currently. I'm not worried about accuracy or authenticity of my undies :) Just comfort and the right silhouette. Natalie Haven't got doc for it. Wasn't my corset. It was a way of coping with the solid (often wood) busk in the front of an Elizabethan corset. Many of my friends at faire put in a firm twinkie sized support pillow, without which they would not have been able to achieve the right silhouette. Without the pillow they would have had over-mashed breasts, falling breasts, or (with a less-rigid busk to compensate) a non-flat front. None of them would have matched the silhouette represented in portraits and sculpture. If you're doing something for competition, I would worry about documentation. If you're using machine stitching and other modern techniques to make your costume, I wouldn't worry. If it's a cheat, it's a completely invisible cheat. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for bad examples)
We have a member of our guilde at Bristol who has cardiac issues and is unable to wear anything too binding. Even a well-fitted corset would cause problems for her. Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Looking for bad examples of costuming...
This is very easy...I see horrible costumes on the net every day... Try these: http://www.wulflund.com/images_items/renaissance-ladies-dress-wine_2.jpg http://www.wulflund.com/images_items/renaissance-dress-de-luxe_2.jpg http://www.carolina-belles.com/shop/index.php?action=listingviewlistingID=29PHPSESSID=e69447e261aaf87273933f9885ab6f0e Zuzana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Corsetery issues
Hi All, If an actress doesn't raise the issue it is wise to ask if there are possible limitations. Years ago, costuming Don Juan in Hell' I did the actress playing Dona Ana in a quick change when she chooses the age she wants to appear. The dress had four skirts - a fine cotton underskirt, two skirts of a rough brown coarse weave with a yellow apron between the skirts, and an outer skirt of lightweight peach taffeta. The entire dress, including a large wooden rosary with cross weighed eight pounds. The actress was no amateur. The bodice was boned, there was shoulder support for the skirt weight but no corset. At final dress the actress fainted. I was told she fainted the night before in the dressing room. When asked what she thought the problem might be she fessed up that her floating ribs had been removed to make a smaller waist. When asked why she had neither complained or volunteered that info she thought she could overcome it. The fix was simple- change the heavier fabric for rayon liner which brought the dress weight down to three pounds and loosen the bodice slightly. Real actress will suffer anything. The others are inexperienced and complain about anything. Audy in the high boonies of Central Texas PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
