Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Catherine Howard is wearing an Elizabethan loose gown with the sleeves ripped out, and the scalloped cuff from one of the sleeves pinned into place as a shoulder wing. Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic?
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be snarky. I hit send before I realized I didn't finish the thought. The combo of garments suggests a generic medieval feel. There is a great resource of extant garments at http://www.kostym.cz/. I have to work up a outfit for my guy soon, and I will be using this site to help guide me to authentic styles and patterns, as it is right out of my period of study. Regina in L.A. Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:49:21 -0800 That is S.C.A. A.D.2000, actually. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic?
No problem - I ended up going back to some of my own research which meshes very nicely with some of the stuff in the links you sent. Sg Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:54:17 -0800 From: reginalaws...@gmail.com To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be snarky. I hit send before I realized I didn't finish the thought. The combo of garments suggests a generic medieval feel. There is a great resource of extant garments at http://www.kostym.cz/. I have to work up a outfit for my guy soon, and I will be using this site to help guide me to authentic styles and patterns, as it is right out of my period of study. Regina in L.A. Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:49:21 -0800 That is S.C.A. A.D.2000, actually. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gore training: was: What period/country etc is this tunic?
It means, Just leave out the gores. MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9 Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback.html See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Saragrace Knauf wickedf...@msn.com wrote: Oh thank you! That is very helpful - both the link to Marc's pages and the ifurther information on construction. I am not sure I understand this sentence: When you make a centre-split tunic, you just miss out the front and back gores. Thank you for the pointers! Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:38:00 + From: anne.montgome...@googlemail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gore training: was: What period/country etc is this tunic? I think it has just fallen into a pleat because of the way he has hiked the tunic up into his belt, and the fact that the trim looks to be stiffer than the main fabric, so it folds rather than gathering or rippling. It might also have a fold in the trim from how he has kept it in the cupboard! The standard pattern for an early medieval tunic or dress (exactly the same except for length) is a four-gore t-tunic, like the Nockert Type 1 on Marc Carlson's pages http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/tunics.htmlhttp://www.personal.utulsa.edu/%7Emarc-carlson/cloth/tunics.html(be warned, some of the links on these pages no longer work). When you make a centre-split tunic, you just miss out the front and back gores. And it's really hard to make the split hang straight. You need the side gores for movement, but when he stands still, the centre either crosses or hangs open. Tweaking it with the belt is the only option, and if the front goes right, the sides will go wrong. Jean ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
The dressmaker's project bag alternates between a linen gown (early 13th c.) in this amazingly delicious sage green handkerchief linen that I am still occasionally kicking myself for not buying the whole bolt of, and the neckline embroidery (white silk on dark blue linen) for an in-progress matched set of dark blue wool 13th c. outfits for me and the Consort. The wandering embroidery frame has the cuff embroidery for the green gown. Jen/pixel/Margaret ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic?
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Heather Rose Jones wrote: On Feb 21, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Pixel, Goddess and Queen wrote: I'd actually say it was SCA Generic Early Period, myself, since it looks like he's wearing front-lacing suede boots. :-) I was going to say something similar but hesitated lest it would be too easily be mistaken for a snark (please don't think I'm implying that that's what you're doing!). In particular, I think it would be a mistake to assume that the outfit as a whole is intended to represent a particular specific time-and-place. Heather Exactly. It isn't *bad*, per se, but it's definitely a specific sort of generic*, and that happens often enough to get its own designation. And then us authenticity nuts get our hooks into them and they eventually end up raising their own cows to make leather for shoes. *evil grin* Jen/pixel *like SCA Generic Middle Period, SCA Generic Late Period, and SCA Generic Middle Eastern. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
On Sunday 22 February 2009 10:33:02 pm Pixel, Goddess and Queen wrote: The dressmaker's project bag alternates between a linen gown (early 13th c.) in this amazingly delicious sage green handkerchief linen that I am still occasionally kicking myself for not buying the whole bolt of, and the neckline embroidery (white silk on dark blue linen) for an in-progress matched set of dark blue wool 13th c. outfits for me and the Consort. The wandering embroidery frame has the cuff embroidery for the green gown. Yum! I hope you'll be willing and able to put photos of these projects on the Web, and give us links to them, when you're done! :-) -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the pudding. --Ben Yahtzee Croshaw ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
