Re: [h-cost] Name of horned 14th century headdress?
It could be a form of "minotaur"? See the last illustration on this page: http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=abbott&book=richard2&story=anne Extremely Victorian drawing style! and apparently from a Victorian era children's history book. A couple really look like bull's horns, and my subconscious eventually popped the "minotaur" connection! That's all I've been able to come up with so far. Oh, the book appears to be: Mistress of the monarchy : the life of Katherine Swynford, Duchess of Lancaster / Alison Weir. My Public Library's copy is out, or I'd look it up in the text... Chimene On Aug 27, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Wicked Frau wrote: > I am listening to Alison Weir's biography of Katherine Sywnford. She > mentions that Anne of Bohemia (future wife of Richard II) introduced the > horned headdress to England at the time. I don't have the actual book but > the word sounds like moonatire??? Anyone know what the word is? > > Thanks, > > Saragrace > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Name of horned 14th century headdress?
I am listening to Alison Weir's biography of Katherine Sywnford. She mentions that Anne of Bohemia (future wife of Richard II) introduced the horned headdress to England at the time. I don't have the actual book but the word sounds like moonatire??? Anyone know what the word is? Thanks, Saragrace ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] suggestions/help to recreate the Luthers
Hi, I found some dress diaries in German - don´t know if the descriptions are helpful at all, but maybe you agree with their interpretations of the layers... http://www.in-nova-corpora.ch/naehstube/ren_bora_text.htm http://www.die-alte-schneiderei.de/renaissance002.htm For the skirt closure - could it be that it is hidden somewhere between the folds in the front? Somewhere in the Tudor Tailor is a mention of pregnant women wearing aprons in order to hide the gap in their dresses, could that have been done in Gemany as well? Luther´s hat seems to be like a Tudor flat cap with the brim slashed and fold down in the back and sides. I think you can get a similar effect with a hat like this one http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/myllancover.html but without any stiffening in the crown. It could also be a coif with a flat cap on it, a bit like this "Gelehrtenhaube". http://www.kunibert.com/shop/rubriken.php?kopfrubrik=Mittelalt.%20Gewandung&anzahl=24&anf=0&tope=25&control=1&PHPSESSID=2a0ae798c0c16282f9fceb00b95354bf And please don´t believe all German "Medieval" shops are that awful... ;-) Hanna At 18:16 27.08.2010, you wrote: It looks like the frazzled frau website is images only - no articles or dress diaries that I can find. Are there any other resources online that would at least give me the different layers/pieces to the von Bora dress? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * > -Original Message- > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com > [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walpole > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:42 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] suggestions/help to recreate the Luthers > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Rebecca Schmitt > wrote: > > > I have the Tudor Tailor, and am hoping I can use/modify patterns in > > there to create these outfits. I would love ideas or > suggestions on how to do so. > > Here's what I am thinking so far... > > > > Martin Luther: is always shown in a gown. I am thinking of > making the > > jerkin with a high front and sleeves. Question: is the > length correct > > (approx knee length), or should I make it longer (mid-calf > to ankle)? > > And where can I find a pattern for the hat he is wearing? > > The Tudor Tailor actually has patterns for a loose gown/robe, > they are essentially unisex in basic construction but > accessories and trimming styles can make them more or less > masculine/feminine. > > > > Katherina Von Bora: Especially in the second link above, > there seems > > to be a lot going on. > For research on 16th century German women's garb the Frazzled > Frau website may be useful > http://frazzledfrau.glittersweet.com/ if you want a pattern > the Mary of Hungary gown is a good starting place. > Alternatively if you want a commercial pattern I've heard > positive reviews of the Reconstructing History 'Cranach Gown' pattern > http://reconstructinghistory.com/rh501-saxon-cranach-gown.php? > s=&c=22&d=190&e=33&q=4&p=57&w=21 > > Hope that helps, > Elizabeth > -- > Elizabeth Walpole > http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ > http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3092 - Release > Date: 08/25/10 13:34:00 > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] suggestions/help to recreate the Luthers
It looks like the frazzled frau website is images only - no articles or dress diaries that I can find. Are there any other resources online that would at least give me the different layers/pieces to the von Bora dress? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * > -Original Message- > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com > [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walpole > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:42 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] suggestions/help to recreate the Luthers > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Rebecca Schmitt > wrote: > > > I have the Tudor Tailor, and am hoping I can use/modify patterns in > > there to create these outfits. I would love ideas or > suggestions on how to do so. > > Here's what I am thinking so far... > > > > Martin Luther: is always shown in a gown. I am thinking of > making the > > jerkin with a high front and sleeves. Question: is the > length correct > > (approx knee length), or should I make it longer (mid-calf > to ankle)? > > And where can I find a pattern for the hat he is wearing? > > The Tudor Tailor actually has patterns for a loose gown/robe, > they are essentially unisex in basic construction but > accessories and trimming styles can make them more or less > masculine/feminine. > > > > Katherina Von Bora: Especially in the second link above, > there seems > > to be a lot going on. > For research on 16th century German women's garb the Frazzled > Frau website may be useful > http://frazzledfrau.glittersweet.com/ if you want a pattern > the Mary of Hungary gown is a good starting place. > Alternatively if you want a commercial pattern I've heard > positive reviews of the Reconstructing History 'Cranach Gown' pattern > http://reconstructinghistory.com/rh501-saxon-cranach-gown.php? > s=&c=22&d=190&e=33&q=4&p=57&w=21 > > Hope that helps, > Elizabeth > -- > Elizabeth Walpole > http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ > http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3092 - Release > Date: 08/25/10 13:34:00 > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Upcoming book
I am out of the loop on this. What is the conjectured reason for either of them being delayed? Thanks, Sg On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. < manordto...@stthomas.edu> wrote: > Well, Medieval Garments Reconstructed: Norse Clothing Patterns is still > listed as October, too. That is so not going to happen. > > Shelly > > > On 8/27/10 8:45 AM, "Leah Janette" wrote: > > > > > Clothes of the Common People 1580-1660 > > http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=109311&custno=12840 > > Shall we place bets as to whether it will really come out in October as > announced? > > Janet > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Yet Another One
Sorry if this one has been discussed, but I jsut found out about it yesterday on the Thistle Threads blog http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1851776311/ref=oss_product Susan/jerusha - Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] and another one
Dressing Up : Cultural Identity in Renaissance Europe http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=109295&custno=12840 "Nuremberg women wearing false braids dyed red or green. " Sounds just like Pennsic... Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Upcoming book
Well, Medieval Garments Reconstructed: Norse Clothing Patterns is still listed as October, too. That is so not going to happen. Shelly On 8/27/10 8:45 AM, "Leah Janette" wrote: Clothes of the Common People 1580-1660 http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=109311&custno=12840 Shall we place bets as to whether it will really come out in October as announced? Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Upcoming book
Clothes of the Common People 1580-1660 http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=109311&custno=12840 Shall we place bets as to whether it will really come out in October as announced? Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
