Re: [h-cost] Historical figures
1/4 scale is SMALL, in my book. I've worked in approximately 1/3 scale, which gave me enough conniptions. I won't touch Barbie's size, so applaud anyone who is willing to. Claudine - Original Message From: Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 4:30:02 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Historical figures Umm, I did go and read the website. They are not THAT small, he does them one-quarter scale. So the average figure would be about 15-18 inches tall. (60=5 feet, 72=6 feet). I think Barbie is about 12 inches tall??? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Downton Abbey
So is this the next costume drama where everyone will be rushing to reproduce the costumes? Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] historical costume in miniature
I have The Doll Book by Estelle Ansley Worrell. It covers costumes from the 17th century to the late 19th century. The patterns are designed to fit 1/6 scale fashion dolls/Barbie dolls (female, male and child sized). She also includes patterns to make cloth dolls the size of Barbie dolls. It is out of print; I got it off Ebay, Amazon or half.com, I'm not sure which. IIRC, it was about $10. Susan G If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it? A. Einstein Pictures of my art http://www.flickr.com/photos/7845173@N05/ I tried to google every thing I could think of during my search for Barbie in historical dress, but my searches did not find much, with exceptions made for a very few one-of-a-kind garments. Lots for 15-16 dolls. Could you give me some links? I'd be interested in seeing the books too, just so I know what is out there. I'd love to see your pictures of your collection, if you have them somewhere to share?... Thank you so much for all of your input so far. It has been so great! Natalie Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d34a8fad51dfb62637st03duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Downton Abbey
By everyone, do you mean major pattern companies? Is PBS even on the radar of the Big Three? Dede --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: So is this the next costume drama where everyone will be rushing to reproduce the costumes? Fran ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Downton Abbey
I'd be surprised if the Big Three even gave it a thought. Plus, with my experience in all of their historical patterns they shoot out, I spend much more time having to deal with them than they are actually worth (mostly the Big Three all have to add wearing ease - which is completely wrong for something form fitting as a corset!). There are only a few smaller companies that actually produce correct historical patterns. Even if it would become the next costume drama, which I think wouldn't be such a bad thing except maybe for the fabric companys, it would help hone in on what really makes a historical costume because you can't just throw something together and embellish the heck out of it when it's the size of Barbie. Mike On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com wrote: By everyone, do you mean major pattern companies? Is PBS even on the radar of the Big Three? Dede --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: So is this the next costume drama where everyone will be rushing to reproduce the costumes? Fran ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Downton Abbey
On 1/17/2011 1:14 PM, WorkroomButtons.com wrote: By everyone, do you mean major pattern companies? Is PBS even on the radar of the Big Three? Dede The Big Three can probably just haul out the patterns they published for Titanic costumes, with a couple of minor alterations. But what I meant is, there are fads in historic costume, the things everyone wants to make. Sometimes they are inspired by films. Out of Africa inspired Ralph Lauren and a number of other mainstream ready-to-wear manufacturers, the issue of a Folkwear patter or two, and well, lots of people even outside the historic costume community making or buying safari skirts and other fashionable items. Titanic was another--everyone had to have Titanic dresses for their prom or wedding, down to fabric that looked exactly the same. The Jane Austen productions, BBC and otherwise, have made lots of people interested in that era. So, I'm just wondering if people here at least are, after having gotten through all those Titanic jump dresses, dinner dresses, etc., feel that Downton Abbey is the next big era. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Downton Abbey
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:14 PM, WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com wrote: By everyone, do you mean major pattern companies? Is PBS even on the radar of the Big Three? It's a BBC show, rather than just a PBS show--and it's a popular one! Wouldn't surprise me if there's a bit of an uptick in interest in that era among costumers, which suits me just fine, seeing as the 1910s are my current era of interest. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Downton Abbey
Ah... thank you, Elena. I forgot Downton Abbey was produced by the BBC, not PBS. My uneducated, uninformed, stab-in-the-dark guess is no, because however far the reach of the BBC, it's still not Hollywood (which produced Out of Africa and Titanic). However, my costume drama-crazed teenager has fallen madly in love with the series, and is now thinking prom dress -- I could be totally wrong about its popular appeal, but I still don't think it will ever be a franchise like Titanic. Dede ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Downton Abbey
In a message dated 1/17/2011 4:33:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, exst...@gmail.com writes: It's a BBC show, According to their website, it is indeed British, but ITV1, not BBC. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Downton Abbey
Oop! I just realized that I had combined two different threads into one and posted on here! (Was thinking more about the miniature sized costume threads) As for Downtown Abbey, I haven't seen it yet but it does look like a great show and I definitely see where the idea of that influencing patterns. However, because it's not a mainstream movie, or IMHO one of the major shows currently airing, I dont think it will have much influence. For example, was there a huge surge of patterns when The Tudors started airing? I don't recall one yet that was a fairly major show. Mike On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:34 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/17/2011 4:33:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, exst...@gmail.com writes: It's a BBC show, According to their website, it is indeed British, but ITV1, not BBC. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Historical figures
I find the scale reasonable...if it is indeed 14/18.? You can still maintain detail with 'real patterns'; Small for me is 12 or below (which includes 'Barbie').? However I have see some doll house dolls (5/6 that have been wonderfully rendered.? These dolls usually involve some glue or clothing that is sewn on. There is a Smithsonian collection of character dolls of this sort that certainly capture the historical periods they represent (About 4) Now that is too small to do much but style/shape. The biggest problem even in the quarter scale is finding patterned fabric, lace and other trim that is consistent with the proportian of the doll and style.? One can always use plain fabric of a proper weight.___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] historical costume in miniature
These were the dolls and historical costumes I started with about 30 years ago.? I still consider Worrell to be an adequate source to begin with...Her pattern shapes, as a matter of fact, were a springboard to Historical Costume for me before all the wonderful Resources we now have. She manages to produce the right shape and drape but in a more simplified version than is acceptable for the purists among us.? -Original Message- From: susan...@juno.com susan...@juno.com Sent 1/17/2011 3:37:48 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] historical costume in miniatureI have The Doll Book by Estelle Ansley Worrell. It covers costumes from the 17th century to the late 19th century. The patterns are designed to fit 1/6 scale fashion dolls/Barbie dolls (female, male and child sized). She also includes patterns to make cloth dolls the size of Barbie dolls. It is out of print; I got it off Ebay, Amazon or half.com, I'm not sure which. IIRC, it was about $10. Susan G If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it? A. Einstein Pictures of my art http://www.flickr.com/photos/7845173@N05/ I tried to google every thing I could think of during my search for Barbie in historical dress, but my searches did not find much, with exceptions made for a very few one-of-a-kind garments. Lots for 15-16 dolls. Could you give me some links? I'd be interested in seeing the books too, just so I know what is out there. I'd love to see your pictures of your collection, if you have them somewhere to share?... Thank you so much for all of your input so far. It has been so great! Natalie Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4d34a8fad51dfb62637st03duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
