[h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern
Good evening, I'm cutting my second project from the La Fleur de Lyse pattern, Women of Medieval Romanesque Period. My first project was the 1150 Lady's bliaut, which turned out ok, if a little large. My problem is that I'm trying to cut the chainse and cotte and am cutting the large instead of the extra-large. The pattern pieces for the gores are confusing me. Has anyone made these garments from this pattern? Were you able to make sense out of the gores for the size large, for the chainse or cotte? I'd sure appreciate any thoughts that anyone might care to share. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12th Century
I've been looking at this pattern some more, and I still can't decide what the instructions mean. There are 4 body panels - two fronts, two backs. It has side seams and seams up center front and center back. There are 2 sets of gores. One longer - to well above the waist, or about 4 inches below the armscye, and one shorter, to about waist level. I'm viewing them as from the hem up as the notches seem to work that way. The instructions and the notches seem rather vague. I'm thinking that probably the pairs of short gores go front/back and the long gores go to the side seams - or vice versa - long gores front/back and short gores to the side seams. There may be something that I'm missing, but I can't figure it out. If anyone has used this pattern, I'd love to talk to you! Laurie T. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 4:43 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern Good evening, I'm cutting my second project from the La Fleur de Lyse pattern, Women of Medieval Romanesque Period. My first project was the 1150 Lady's bliaut, which turned out ok, if a little large. My problem is that I'm trying to cut the chainse and cotte and am cutting the large instead of the extra-large. The pattern pieces for the gores are confusing me. Has anyone made these garments from this pattern? Were you able to make sense out of the gores for the size large, for the chainse or cotte? I'd sure appreciate any thoughts that anyone might care to share. Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12th Century
Hi Laurie, I haven't made this pattern, and unfortunately it's not in my collection to refer to. Based on my (admittedly limited) knowledge of clothing from that time, however, I think your first assumption is correct: the long gores go into the side seams, the short gores into CF and CB. I seem to recall some of the Greenland gowns where made that way. Claudine - Original Message From: Laurie Taylor costume...@mazarineblue.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 7:43:53 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12th Century I've been looking at this pattern some more, and I still can't decide what the instructions mean. There are 4 body panels - two fronts, two backs. It has side seams and seams up center front and center back. There are 2 sets of gores. One longer - to well above the waist, or about 4 inches below the armscye, and one shorter, to about waist level. I'm viewing them as from the hem up as the notches seem to work that way. The instructions and the notches seem rather vague. I'm thinking that probably the pairs of short gores go front/back and the long gores go to the side seams - or vice versa - long gores front/back and short gores to the side seams. There may be something that I'm missing, but I can't figure it out. If anyone has used this pattern, I'd love to talk to you! Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12thCentury
Thank you so much! That really helps. Just having someone else's thoughts helps when I'm feeling so decisive, but the Greenland gowns thought is right on track...and just what I need. Nothing like trying to sew garb for an event with a deadline to chase away all thoughts of all the many things that I've seen and read! laurie -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:53 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12thCentury Hi Laurie, I haven't made this pattern, and unfortunately it's not in my collection to refer to. Based on my (admittedly limited) knowledge of clothing from that time, however, I think your first assumption is correct: the long gores go into the side seams, the short gores into CF and CB. I seem to recall some of the Greenland gowns where made that way. Claudine - Original Message From: Laurie Taylor costume...@mazarineblue.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 7:43:53 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12th Century I've been looking at this pattern some more, and I still can't decide what the instructions mean. There are 4 body panels - two fronts, two backs. It has side seams and seams up center front and center back. There are 2 sets of gores. One longer - to well above the waist, or about 4 inches below the armscye, and one shorter, to about waist level. I'm viewing them as from the hem up as the notches seem to work that way. The instructions and the notches seem rather vague. I'm thinking that probably the pairs of short gores go front/back and the long gores go to the side seams - or vice versa - long gores front/back and short gores to the side seams. There may be something that I'm missing, but I can't figure it out. If anyone has used this pattern, I'd love to talk to you! Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern -11th-12thCentury
Oops...meant to say 'indecisive'! -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 9:11 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern -11th-12thCentury Thank you so much! That really helps. Just having someone else's thoughts helps when I'm feeling so decisive, but the Greenland gowns thought is right on track...and just what I need. Nothing like trying to sew garb for an event with a deadline to chase away all thoughts of all the many things that I've seen and read! laurie -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:53 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12thCentury Hi Laurie, I haven't made this pattern, and unfortunately it's not in my collection to refer to. Based on my (admittedly limited) knowledge of clothing from that time, however, I think your first assumption is correct: the long gores go into the side seams, the short gores into CF and CB. I seem to recall some of the Greenland gowns where made that way. Claudine - Original Message From: Laurie Taylor costume...@mazarineblue.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 7:43:53 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Seeking help with La Fleur de Lyse pattern - 11th-12th Century I've been looking at this pattern some more, and I still can't decide what the instructions mean. There are 4 body panels - two fronts, two backs. It has side seams and seams up center front and center back. There are 2 sets of gores. One longer - to well above the waist, or about 4 inches below the armscye, and one shorter, to about waist level. I'm viewing them as from the hem up as the notches seem to work that way. The instructions and the notches seem rather vague. I'm thinking that probably the pairs of short gores go front/back and the long gores go to the side seams - or vice versa - long gores front/back and short gores to the side seams. There may be something that I'm missing, but I can't figure it out. If anyone has used this pattern, I'd love to talk to you! Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
