[h-cost] Prussian Blue (was His Blue Coat)
Sorry for the delay in this post, but I had to check a document here at the office. My main point was, I don't think Prussian blue was used for to dye a dark navy blue. Rita Adrosko, in Natural Dyes and Home Dyeing, says that Prussian blue can produce a brighter blue than indigo. She also says it wasn't used to color fabric in the U.S. until 1832--don't know about Britain. I also have in my notes that Prussian blue was primarily used to dye silk and cotton. Prussian blue was used as a paint pigment before it was used to color textiles. Matthew Mosca, one of the leading paint analysts in this country, did a study of one of our rooms at the Riversdale House Museum. He identified the pigment as Prussian blue, which on our walls was a moderate greenish blue. He further says that the best grades of prussian blue produce bright blues, sometimes tending toward a slightly green color. The poorer qualities of prussian blue generally are weaker pigments and give a somewhat purplish tone. Of course, the pigment may react differently on fibers than on walls. I think I have seen textiles that tend toward the greenish-blue, but I can't document that right now. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] his blue coat
What dye was used for the famous bluestockings? IIRC these began as actual iteral blue worsted stockings (see basbleu.com) and were regarded as casual ear. Can't answer the first question, about indigo in the rainbow, and that is a GOOD question--my mother also learned the rainbow colors that way. Since the term dates to the very early 19th century, I imagine the blue stockings worn by learned or literary women were probably either worsted wool or linen (called thread stockings) dyed with indigo. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Chris Laning clan...@igc.org To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 12:22 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] his blue coat n Feb 1, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Land of Oz wrote: The name of the dye and the color of the dye are one and the same. Indigo = lue. There were no other colors produced that were called indigo. There was ver dyeing - green could be achieved by putting something already dyed yellow nto an indigo vat; dyeing with cochineal before or after indigo for purple, tc. am sitting here idly wondering: (1) Indigo does seem to be a true blue (i.e. not greenish or purplish). So how id the word indigo come to be applied to the shade between blue and violet in he rainbow? (At least the way I learned it: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, ndigo, violet) (2) What dye was used for the famous bluestockings? IIRC these began as actual iteral blue worsted stockings (see basbleu.com) and were regarded as casual ear. OChris Laning clan...@igc.org - Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] his blue coat
Wiki quote: Classification as a spectral color Indigo was defined as a spectral color by Sir Isaac Newton when he divided up the optical spectrum, which has a continuum of wavelengths. He specifically named seven colors primarily to match the seven notes of a western major scale,[5] because he believed sound and light were physically similar, and also to link colors with the days of the week,[citation needed] and other lists that had seven items. The human eye is relatively insensitive to hue changes in the wavelengths between blue and violet, where Newton defined indigo to be; most individuals do not distinguish indigo from blue and violet. For this reason, some commentators, including Isaac Asimov,[citation needed] hold that indigo should not be regarded as a color in its own right, but merely as a hue of blue or violet. Color scientists typically divide the spectrum at about 450 nm between violet and blue, with no indigo.[2][6] Others continue to accept it,[7] as it has been accepted traditionally as one of Newton's named colors of the spectrum along with red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and violet. Patty (1) Indigo does seem to be a true blue (i.e. not greenish or purplish). So how id the word indigo come to be applied to the shade between blue and violet in he rainbow? (At least the way I learned it: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, ndigo, violet) As to this question, it seems to be Sir Isaac Newton who so named the colors of the spectrum--violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange, red. So one has to wonder what his standard was for true blue. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Source for discount lace
www.lace-mart.com They sell discount venise/venice bridal lace yardage and appliques, yokes, etc. You're not looking at total historic authenticity here, but the selection is large and some of the prices are pretty good in comparison to other sources. They have a lot of black laces, otherwise the laces are mostly white, ivory, and some slightly strange metallics. Most of the laces are rayon, some are cotton. You can dye them to take off the bridal effect. I saw someone's dyed rayon lace yardage and it looked fine. I just bought some to dye but have not done it yet; however, Procion dyes work well on rayon in my previous experience. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing Two new books of 1880s patterns! www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Prussian Blue (was His Blue Coat)
In a message dated 2/3/2011 9:17:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, annbw...@aol.com writes: I think I have seen textiles that tend toward the greenish-blue, but I can't document that right now. I found a printed fabric used in a quilt that is documented to be colored with Prussian blue. It is in Calico Chintz: Antique Quilts from the Collection of Patricia S. Smith, by Jeremy Adamson (Washington DC: Renwick Gallery, 1997. It is quilt #11, p. 62. Not exactly a green blue, but not a violet blue, either--described in the text as a vivid medium blue. I tried matching with Pantone, and the closest I got was Niagara, #17-4123 (your mileage may vary). That should give some idea of the hue. The quilt is pictured here. _http://americanart.si.edu/exhibitions/online/highlights/artworks.cfm?id=CC; StartRow=9_ (http://americanart.si.edu/exhibitions/online/highlights/artworks.cfm?id=CCStartRow=9) Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
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Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
Hard to be sure without a photo of the actual scissors, but I believe I have a pair of these. Terrible. Barely cuts paper. Incredibly cheaply made. Claudine - Original Message From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 6:25:56 PM Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? http://www.alvinco.com/shopping/family_sale_0_familyid_12030_cat_978_item_1293027097 7 http://www.alvinco.com/shopping/family_sale_0_familyid_12030_cat_978_item_1293007097 7 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Steampunk Ball, January 29 Cambridge, Ma
Katy, Just a quick email - How did the Steampunk Ball go? What was the quality of the costumes like? Sidney On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: I thought a few people here might be interested in the event and a chence to try out Steampunk in Boston. Come to The Technocrat's Ball! Where: Masonic Hall 1950 Massachusetts Avenue (Porter Square) Cambridge, MA When: Saturday January 29, 2011 from 7:00 PM to 10:30 PM EST (Workshop 3-5 PM) Questions? * Phone: (617) 819-4283 tel:+16178194283 * Email: qu...@vintagedancers.org * http://www.vintagedancers.org/2011technocrats.html Journey to a world that might have been if Victorian visions of the future and steam powered technology had come true. Join us at the Technocrat's Ball- A Steampunk Soiree! Enter the realm of Jules Verne and H.G. Wells as the Commonwealth Vintage Dancers present the Technocrat's Ball. Enjoy an evening of authentic late 19th century dancing with the imaginative flair of Steampunk style. The program will feature set dances taught during the evening, as well as energetic gallops, romantic waltzes, and sprightly polkas. Live music will be provided by the very talented Ad Hoc Quadrille and Waltz Band. Admission is just $25, or $15 for students when purchased by January 28 ($5 more at the door), and includes a dance workshop from 3:00-5:00PM on Saturday afternoon. Visit our website for more details, including parking and public transit information. http://www.vintagedancers.org/2011technocrats.html To register, click on the link below. https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?oeidk=a07e36elna1b732b6a2oseq= Steampunk inspired costume or Victorian/Edwardian attire is requested (although modern evening attire is also acceptable). Steampunk style is all about imagination and creativity, so this is your chance to go through your closet and pull together something fun without worrying about historical accuracy. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
