Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
Many of the pinkers from the 1920's that you'll find on eBay are by Singer. Singer, entertainingly enough, recently introduced an electric, foot-pedal controlled version of the same, updated for the market with plastic housing and no user serviceable parts aside from the blade. The new blades are another story - they're an exact match, same size and features, as the old 1920's blades. They won't fit easily until you get a machinst's reamer to take off the burr around the inside of the fitting hole, but then they work just fine. They don't come in the same range of styles, but for $8 or less a pop, it's nice to have options. -Laura On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:41 PM, wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:53:57 GMT > From: "R Lloyd Mitchell" > To: "Historical Costume" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of > these on fabric? > Message-ID: <201102221453646.SM48549@[209.131.91.28]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > re the pinking machine, I managed to get two of these on e-Bay...They (at > least mine) are last Q uarter of the 19th Century. They prefer rather firm > (starched) fabric to get a nice crisp flow and edge...much like modern > pinking shears. My biggest problem has been that they should be > sharpened...find a little old 'grinder' who knows how to put an edge on is > the present question.? Trying to persuade a 'saw' man that 'IT' is much like > his usual foremat is another thing. A few years back when this curio was last > introduced, I seem to remember that a couple of folk had the even earlier > version that seemed to be a scalloped 'die cast' that could make the edge > using a taphammer. I think that that form now shows up with the new and > improved rotary cutter that can employ custom discs that will hand roll the > desired edge. I? also found that trying to set up a tension method for the > strip of fabric being run through the roller also helped to keep the fabric > on course, for a nice steady! > off play of the scalloped edge.? Have fun. > For those of you who can't quite picture this little machine, think of a > little old?meat grinder without the casing.? The rotary section is set so > that the fabric is fed from the rear between the cutter and a covering plate > and comes out facing towards you as you turn the handle. > Kathleen > -Original Message- > From: "LuAnn Mason" > Sent 2/22/2011 2:23:20 PM > To: "Historical Costume" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on > fabric?Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both > north of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! > LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt pockets??? > Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
I've gotten the emails in this thread all out of order (what is UP with the interwebs today), so I apologize if I'm repeating something already said. I hopped over to ebay and searched for "pinking machine" (actually, that came up as soon as I started typing "pink"), and hey NEAT-O. What a nifty little tool, especially if you have problem hands and can't use a rotary cutter. Niftier still was the one that appears to be a *sewing machine attachment*. My one disappointment is that the blade is a wave cut, not the much-sought-after scallop. I suppose a modern scallop blade can be retrofitted to fit, but if I can get my hands on a scallop blade (I know they're out there) then I don't really need the machine. But I still think the machine is super cool. Claudine > - Original Message - > From: "Irina Moeller" > To: "'Historical Costume'" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > > >I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have > >no > > idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. > > Anne > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?
Most definitely paying taxes as I am now working for myself. I know! They can pay me in fabric! (joking...) Astrida On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:03 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: > Yes, and don't count your chickens before they hatch. "Could pay > dividends down the road" could pay dividends, or could lead towards their > always > taking for granted that you work for cheap. > So, yes, I agree, at least try to recoup your expenses--ALL of them. Also > remember that, if you are in the US, this is taxable income, although you > can subtract your expenses from that. Income tax and social security amount > to about 40%. Of course, if your self-employed income isn't much (I don't > remember the floor off hand), you don't have to pay social security > withholding, but if you want to be honest and fair, and you don't expense > away > everything, you should pay the income tax. > > Ann Wass > > > In a message dated 2/22/2011 2:34:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu writes: > > Charging what the market will bear is indeed a starting point for > reputation for you,?and skill learning for your students.? This is somewhat > the > direction I took in 1976 when I started my costume service business.? Once > again, make sure your out of pocket expenses are being covered...that one > took > me some time to realize how all the small items contributed added up on > the profit-loss column. You can?'donate' your time and effort, but it > shouldn't be a "Goodwill profit" . In the long run, I made my profit on > volume and > repeat customers...and when they wanted a first class product, I was first > in mind and they did not quibble on the difference of cost between costume > and Costume! > Good luck as you try to figure out how to do the project for your area. > Kathleen > -Original Message- > From: "Astrida Schaeffer" > Sent 2/19/2011 12:00:47 PM > To: "Historical Costume" > Subject: Re: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?This is a very small for-profit > sewing school. The sort of thing where I can't really charge what I think I > should, but it could pay dividends down teh road if I do this. > On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:17 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: >> At least mmwage for actual hours on the job as well as class prep.? All > out of pocket expenses from thread and needles to gas. Then there is the > matter of professional? recognition for your expertise. If you start with > that, then it should be understood that an additiona fee would be expected > for > your time and expenses.? Is this a for=profit enterprise or community > activity. >> -Original Message- >> From: "Astrida Schaeffer" >> Sent 2/18/2011 4:02:06 PM >> To: "Historical Costume" >> Subject: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?Hi-- >> I am terrible at pricing my work and time. May I please ask for some > advice from you all? >> I've been approached about helping run a week of summer camp focused on > 19th c. sewing. I'd bring the girls behind the scenes at a local museum to > look at collections, lecture on 19th c. fashion developments, show > reproductions for them to try on (already existing, not made for this camp), > teach > some hands-on techniques. I'm not running the camp, but I'd be one of the > main teachers. >> The organizer is asking for pricing and I simply have no idea what to > tell her. I'm guessing my daily involvement during the 5 days would be > usually about 2-3 hours, however there would be a good deal of prep work I'd > be > doing ahead of time. >> What say you? >> Many thanks, >> Astrida >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume= > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?
Yes, and don't count your chickens before they hatch. "Could pay dividends down the road" could pay dividends, or could lead towards their always taking for granted that you work for cheap. So, yes, I agree, at least try to recoup your expenses--ALL of them. Also remember that, if you are in the US, this is taxable income, although you can subtract your expenses from that. Income tax and social security amount to about 40%. Of course, if your self-employed income isn't much (I don't remember the floor off hand), you don't have to pay social security withholding, but if you want to be honest and fair, and you don't expense away everything, you should pay the income tax. Ann Wass In a message dated 2/22/2011 2:34:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu writes: Charging what the market will bear is indeed a starting point for reputation for you,?and skill learning for your students.? This is somewhat the direction I took in 1976 when I started my costume service business.? Once again, make sure your out of pocket expenses are being covered...that one took me some time to realize how all the small items contributed added up on the profit-loss column. You can?'donate' your time and effort, but it shouldn't be a "Goodwill profit" . In the long run, I made my profit on volume and repeat customers...and when they wanted a first class product, I was first in mind and they did not quibble on the difference of cost between costume and Costume! Good luck as you try to figure out how to do the project for your area. Kathleen -Original Message- From: "Astrida Schaeffer" Sent 2/19/2011 12:00:47 PM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?This is a very small for-profit sewing school. The sort of thing where I can't really charge what I think I should, but it could pay dividends down teh road if I do this. On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:17 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: > At least mmwage for actual hours on the job as well as class prep.? All out of pocket expenses from thread and needles to gas. Then there is the matter of professional? recognition for your expertise. If you start with that, then it should be understood that an additiona fee would be expected for your time and expenses.? Is this a for=profit enterprise or community activity. > -Original Message- > From: "Astrida Schaeffer" > Sent 2/18/2011 4:02:06 PM > To: "Historical Costume" > Subject: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?Hi-- > I am terrible at pricing my work and time. May I please ask for some advice from you all? > I've been approached about helping run a week of summer camp focused on 19th c. sewing. I'd bring the girls behind the scenes at a local museum to look at collections, lecture on 19th c. fashion developments, show reproductions for them to try on (already existing, not made for this camp), teach some hands-on techniques. I'm not running the camp, but I'd be one of the main teachers. > The organizer is asking for pricing and I simply have no idea what to tell her. I'm guessing my daily involvement during the 5 days would be usually about 2-3 hours, however there would be a good deal of prep work I'd be doing ahead of time. > What say you? > Many thanks, > Astrida > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume= ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine
Ah, understood I hope I never have to deal with bias-cut charmeuse e-v-e-r a-g-a-i-n! -Europa - Original Message - From: "LuAnn Mason" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine Not trouble, they're just picky and time consuming. And I hate them. Did I mention that? LOL! I will cartridge pleat the Great Wall of China without complaint, but I hate welt pockets. LuAnn From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:52:41 -0800 Subject: [h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine Well, if we think in terms of the 'Oregon Territory' ... Welt pockets? What sort of trouble are you having? Um, 'Shea' - if you're the one I know, could you contact me offlist? Got a grape vine (literally) question for you. ttfn, Brenna/Kate/Kitty/Europa/'not late for dinner' - Original Message - From: "LuAnn Mason" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both > north > of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! > > LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt > pockets??? Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! > >> From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net >> To: h-cost...@indra.com >> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:15:57 -0800 >> Subject: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these >> on >> fabric? >> >> Oh, oh, Anne ... >> >> Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if >> the >> list will carry attachments...). >> >> Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's >> plate' >> on >> it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you >> can't >> read >> it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) >> >> I, for one, would like the info! :-) >> >> Please and thank you! >> >> Europa von Weber >> (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else >> out >> here?) >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Irina Moeller" >> To: "'Historical Costume'" >> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? >> >> >> >I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I >> >have >> >no >> > idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. >> > Anne >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com >> > [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser >> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM >> > To: Historical Costume >> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? >> > >> > Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully >> > duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, >> > but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 >> > years! >> > >> > == Marjorie Wilser >> > >> > =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= >> > >> > "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for >> > amusement." --MW >> > >> > http://3toad.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): >> > >> >> The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that >> >> would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. >> >> >> > >> > ___ >> > h-costume mailing list >> > h-costume@mail.indra.com >> > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > >> > ___ >> > h-costume mailing list >> > h-costume@mail.indra.com >> > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine
Not trouble, they're just picky and time consuming. And I hate them. Did I mention that? LOL! I will cartridge pleat the Great Wall of China without complaint, but I hate welt pockets. LuAnn > From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:52:41 -0800 > Subject: [h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine > > Well, if we think in terms of the 'Oregon Territory' ... > > Welt pockets? What sort of trouble are you having? > > Um, 'Shea' - if you're the one I know, could you contact me offlist? Got a > grape vine (literally) question for you. > > ttfn, > Brenna/Kate/Kitty/Europa/'not late for dinner' > > > - Original Message - > From: "LuAnn Mason" > To: "Historical Costume" > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these > on fabric? > > > > > > Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both north > > of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! > > > > LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt > > pockets??? Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! > > > >> From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net > >> To: h-cost...@indra.com > >> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:15:57 -0800 > >> Subject: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on > >> fabric? > >> > >> Oh, oh, Anne ... > >> > >> Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if > >> the > >> list will carry attachments...). > >> > >> Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's plate' > >> on > >> it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you can't > >> read > >> it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) > >> > >> I, for one, would like the info! :-) > >> > >> Please and thank you! > >> > >> Europa von Weber > >> (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else out > >> here?) > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Irina Moeller" > >> To: "'Historical Costume'" > >> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM > >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > >> > >> > >> >I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I > >> >have > >> >no > >> > idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. > >> > Anne > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] > >> > On > >> > Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser > >> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM > >> > To: Historical Costume > >> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > >> > > >> > Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully > >> > duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, > >> > but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! > >> > > >> > == Marjorie Wilser > >> > > >> > =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= > >> > > >> > "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for > >> > amusement." --MW > >> > > >> > http://3toad.blogspot.com/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): > >> > > >> >> The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that > >> >> would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. > >> >> > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > h-costume mailing list > >> > h-costume@mail.indra.com > >> > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > h-costume mailing list > >> > h-costume@mail.indra.com > >> > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > >> > >> ___ > >> h-costume mailing list > >> h-costume@mail.indra.com > >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
I just looked on e-Bay and thnere is a slew of these machines from the 19th and 20th Centuries..prices...all over! -Original Message- From: "R Lloyd Mitchell" Sent 2/22/2011 2:53:57 PM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?re the pinking machine, I managed to get two of these on e-Bay...They (at least mine) are last Q uarter of the 19th Century. They prefer rather firm (starched) fabric to get a nice crisp flow and edge...much like modern pinking shears. My biggest problem has been that they should be sharpened...find a little old 'grinder' who knows how to put an edge on is the present question.? Trying to persuade a 'saw' man that 'IT' is much like his usual foremat is another thing. A few years back when this curio was last introduced, I seem to remember that a couple of folk had the even earlier version that seemed to be a scalloped 'die cast' that could make the edge using a taphammer. I think that that form now shows up with the new and improved rotary cutter that can employ custom discs that will hand roll the desired edge. I? also found that trying to set up a tension method for the strip of fabric being run through the roller also helped to keep the fabric on course, for a nice steady off play of the scalloped edge.? Have fun. For those of you who can't quite picture this little machine, think of a little old?meat grinder without the casing.? The rotary section is set so that the fabric is fed from the rear between the cutter and a covering plate and comes out facing towards you as you turn the handle. Kathleen -Original Message- From: "LuAnn Mason" Sent 2/22/2011 2:23:20 PM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both north of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt pockets??? Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! > From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:15:57 -0800 > Subject: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these onfabric? > > Oh, oh, Anne ... > > Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if the > list will carry attachments...). > > Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's plate' on > it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you can't read > it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) > > I, for one, would like the info! :-) > > Please and thank you! > > Europa von Weber > (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else out > here?) > > > - Original Message - > From: "Irina Moeller" > To: "'Historical Costume'" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > > >I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have > >no > > idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. > > Anne > > > > -Original Message- > > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On > > Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM > > To: Historical Costume > > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > > > Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully > > duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, > > but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! > > > > == Marjorie Wilser > > > > =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=: > > > > "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW > > > > http://3toad.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): > > > >> The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that > >> would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. > >> > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 'Oregon' - was: Pinking machine
Well, if we think in terms of the 'Oregon Territory' ... Welt pockets? What sort of trouble are you having? Um, 'Shea' - if you're the one I know, could you contact me offlist? Got a grape vine (literally) question for you. ttfn, Brenna/Kate/Kitty/Europa/'not late for dinner' - Original Message - From: "LuAnn Mason" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both north of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt pockets??? Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:15:57 -0800 Subject: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Oh, oh, Anne ... Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if the list will carry attachments...). Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's plate' on it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you can't read it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) I, for one, would like the info! :-) Please and thank you! Europa von Weber (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else out here?) - Original Message - From: "Irina Moeller" To: "'Historical Costume'" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? >I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I >have >no > idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. > Anne > > -Original Message- > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] > On > Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully > duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, > but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! > > == Marjorie Wilser > > =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= > > "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for > amusement." --MW > > http://3toad.blogspot.com/ > > > > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): > >> The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that >> would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. >> > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
re the pinking machine, I managed to get two of these on e-Bay...They (at least mine) are last Q uarter of the 19th Century. They prefer rather firm (starched) fabric to get a nice crisp flow and edge...much like modern pinking shears. My biggest problem has been that they should be sharpened...find a little old 'grinder' who knows how to put an edge on is the present question.? Trying to persuade a 'saw' man that 'IT' is much like his usual foremat is another thing. A few years back when this curio was last introduced, I seem to remember that a couple of folk had the even earlier version that seemed to be a scalloped 'die cast' that could make the edge using a taphammer. I think that that form now shows up with the new and improved rotary cutter that can employ custom discs that will hand roll the desired edge. I? also found that trying to set up a tension method for the strip of fabric being run through the roller also helped to keep the fabric on course, for a nice steady off play of the scalloped edge.? Have fun. For those of you who can't quite picture this little machine, think of a little old?meat grinder without the casing.? The rotary section is set so that the fabric is fed from the rear between the cutter and a covering plate and comes out facing towards you as you turn the handle. Kathleen -Original Message- From: "LuAnn Mason" Sent 2/22/2011 2:23:20 PM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both north of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt pockets??? Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! > From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:15:57 -0800 > Subject: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on > fabric? > > Oh, oh, Anne ... > > Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if the > list will carry attachments...). > > Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's plate' on > it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you can't read > it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) > > I, for one, would like the info! :-) > > Please and thank you! > > Europa von Weber > (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else out > here?) > > > - Original Message - > From: "Irina Moeller" > To: "'Historical Costume'" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > > >I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have > >no > > idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. > > Anne > > > > -Original Message- > > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On > > Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM > > To: Historical Costume > > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > > > Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully > > duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, > > but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! > > > > == Marjorie Wilser > > > > =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=: > > > > "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW > > > > http://3toad.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): > > > >> The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that > >> would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. > >> > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?
Charging what the market will bear is indeed a starting point for reputation for you,?and skill learning for your students.? This is somewhat the direction I took in 1976 when I started my costume service business.? Once again, make sure your out of pocket expenses are being covered...that one took me some time to realize how all the small items contributed added up on the profit-loss column. You can?'donate' your time and effort, but it shouldn't be a "Goodwill profit" . In the long run, I made my profit on volume and repeat customers...and when they wanted a first class product, I was first in mind and they did not quibble on the difference of cost between costume and Costume! Good luck as you try to figure out how to do the project for your area. Kathleen -Original Message- From: "Astrida Schaeffer" Sent 2/19/2011 12:00:47 PM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?This is a very small for-profit sewing school. The sort of thing where I can't really charge what I think I should, but it could pay dividends down teh road if I do this. On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:17 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: > At least mmwage for actual hours on the job as well as class prep.? All out > of pocket expenses from thread and needles to gas. Then there is the matter > of professional? recognition for your expertise. If you start with that, then > it should be understood that an additiona fee would be expected for your time > and expenses.? Is this a for=profit enterprise or community activity. > -Original Message- > From: "Astrida Schaeffer" > Sent 2/18/2011 4:02:06 PM > To: "Historical Costume" > Subject: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?Hi-- > I am terrible at pricing my work and time. May I please ask for some advice > from you all? > I've been approached about helping run a week of summer camp focused on 19th > c. sewing. I'd bring the girls behind the scenes at a local museum to look at > collections, lecture on 19th c. fashion developments, show reproductions for > them to try on (already existing, not made for this camp), teach some > hands-on techniques. I'm not running the camp, but I'd be one of the main > teachers. > The organizer is asking for pricing and I simply have no idea what to tell > her. I'm guessing my daily involvement during the 5 days would be usually > about 2-3 hours, however there would be a good deal of prep work I'd be doing > ahead of time. > What say you? > Many thanks, > Astrida > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
Brenna, I think it's me, you and Shea, but since she and I are both north of the Columbia, the wilds of Oregon proper belong to you! LOL! LuAnn who is sewing, sewing, sewing, did I mention I HATE welt pockets??? Ugh... I'm not making vests again--ever! > From: brenna.sh...@comcast.net > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:15:57 -0800 > Subject: [h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on > fabric? > > Oh, oh, Anne ... > > Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if the > list will carry attachments...). > > Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's plate' on > it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you can't read > it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) > > I, for one, would like the info! :-) > > Please and thank you! > > Europa von Weber > (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else out > here?) > > > - Original Message - > From: "Irina Moeller" > To: "'Historical Costume'" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > > >I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have > >no > > idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. > > Anne > > > > -Original Message- > > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On > > Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM > > To: Historical Costume > > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? > > > > Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully > > duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, > > but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! > > > > == Marjorie Wilser > > > > =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= > > > > "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW > > > > http://3toad.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): > > > >> The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that > >> would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. > >> > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pinking machine - was: Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
Oh, oh, Anne ... Take a few pictures of it and post them with a link (can't remember if the list will carry attachments...). Also look it over - there _has_ to be a least one 'manufacturer's plate' on it or maybe it's molded into the body. If it's molded in and you can't read it well, do a pencil-on-paper rubbing to bring out the sculpting. :-) I, for one, would like the info! :-) Please and thank you! Europa von Weber (mundanely stuck in the 'unknown lands' of Oregon... anybody else out here?) - Original Message - From: "Irina Moeller" To: "'Historical Costume'" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have no idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. Anne -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric?
I found a cute little hand cranked machine that does the pinking. I have no idea how old it is but it does the job just fine. Anne -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Has anyone tried any of these on fabric? Alas, I have not seen any Fiskars/rotary blades that successfully duplicate 18th or 19th C pinking designs. There are approximations, but none exact that I have seen. I've been looking. . . for 20 years! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Land of Oz wrote (in part): > The rotary cutters now have blades with designs. I'd think that > would be a lot more likely to work on fabric. > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?
This is a very small for-profit sewing school. The sort of thing where I can't really charge what I think I should, but it could pay dividends down teh road if I do this. On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:17 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: > At least mmwage for actual hours on the job as well as class prep.? All out > of pocket expenses from thread and needles to gas. Then there is the matter > of professional? recognition for your expertise. If you start with that, then > it should be understood that an additiona fee would be expected for your time > and expenses.? Is this a for=profit enterprise or community activity. > -Original Message- > From: "Astrida Schaeffer" > Sent 2/18/2011 4:02:06 PM > To: "Historical Costume" > Subject: [h-cost] pricing guidelines?Hi-- > I am terrible at pricing my work and time. May I please ask for some advice > from you all? > I've been approached about helping run a week of summer camp focused on 19th > c. sewing. I'd bring the girls behind the scenes at a local museum to look at > collections, lecture on 19th c. fashion developments, show reproductions for > them to try on (already existing, not made for this camp), teach some > hands-on techniques. I'm not running the camp, but I'd be one of the main > teachers. > The organizer is asking for pricing and I simply have no idea what to tell > her. I'm guessing my daily involvement during the 5 days would be usually > about 2-3 hours, however there would be a good deal of prep work I'd be doing > ahead of time. > What say you? > Many thanks, > Astrida > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
