[h-cost] Academic Dress

[Susan B. Farmer]

I'm looking for information on Academic Dress -- and I turned to 
Davenport -- they have the nice section on Clerical Dress.


The appendix lists several figures: 323, 594-596, 1560-1578, and 1759.

1561-1578 are Academic Gowns as is 1759. 323 and 594-596, however, are 
clearly *NOT* academic regalia (nor are they identified as such in the 
captions or text).


Was there ever a set of corrections for the figures in Davenport? Does
anybody know what those correct figures might be?

Thanks!

Susan/ Jerusha
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Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
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Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress

[R Lloyd Mitchell]

What is your specific quiry? Like uniforms, the various robes and garments are 
particular to the various institutions that were required for students to 
wear.? When it comes to modern day garb, these garments may be eclectic 
according to the institutions requiring them for ceremonies. The stoles and 
hoods are now regulated somewhat to be reprsentative of specific 
universities/colleges re school colors and disciplines.
-Original Message-
From: "Susan B. Farmer" 
Sent 7/23/2011 12:08:25 PM
To: "Historical Costume" 
Subject: [h-cost] Academic DressI'm looking for information on Academic Dress 
-- and I turned to
Davenport -- they have the nice section on Clerical Dress.
The appendix lists several figures: 323, 594-596, 1560-1578, and 1759.
1561-1578 are Academic Gowns as is 1759. 323 and 594-596, however, are
clearly *NOT* academic regalia (nor are they identified as such in the
captions or text).
Was there ever a set of corrections for the figures in Davenport? Does
anybody know what those correct figures might be?
Thanks!
Susan/ Jerusha
--
Susan Farmer
sfar...@goldsword.com
Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
Division of Science and Math
http://www.abac.edu/sfarmer/http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/
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Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress

[Susan B. Farmer]

On 7/23/2011 6:16 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote:


What is your specific quiry? Like uniforms, the various robes and garments are 
particular to the various institutions that were required for students to 
wear.? When it comes to modern day garb, these garments may be eclectic 
according to the institutions requiring them for ceremonies. The stoles and 
hoods are now regulated somewhat to be reprsentative of specific 
universities/colleges re school colors and disciplines.


First -- as I mentioned in the original email, what are the actual 
figures referenced in Davenport -- the index is incorrect.


Second -- what I'm looking for is what was Medieval/Renaissance Dress. 
Our dean keeps saying that Academic Dress (tm) is unchanged since the 
14th Century -- I want to know what 14th C Academic Dress looks like!


Susan


-Original Message-
From: "Susan B. Farmer"
Sent 7/23/2011 12:08:25 PM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: [h-cost] Academic DressI'm looking for information on Academic Dress 
-- and I turned to
Davenport -- they have the nice section on Clerical Dress.
The appendix lists several figures: 323, 594-596, 1560-1578, and 1759.
1561-1578 are Academic Gowns as is 1759. 323 and 594-596, however, are
clearly *NOT* academic regalia (nor are they identified as such in the
captions or text).
Was there ever a set of corrections for the figures in Davenport? Does
anybody know what those correct figures might be?


--
Susan Farmer
sfar...@goldsword.com
Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
Division of Science and Math
http://www.abac.edu/sfarmer/
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/
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Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress

[Emily Gilbert]

Our dean keeps saying that Academic Dress (tm) is unchanged since the 
14th Century -- I want to know what 14th C Academic Dress looks like! 
I've always thought that some of the robes worn by my dad's colleagues 
at Commencement  - especially the ones that have velvet trim and a 
floppy hat instead of the mortarboard - wouldn't look out of place at a 
Renaissance Faire!  : )


Emily
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Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress

[Aurora Celeste]

Margaret Scott's new book "Fashion in the Middle Ages" has a section on
academic dress: pgs 74-7.  I don't know much about modern academic wear, but
I'd say it only bears a passing resemblance.  Also, my
knowledge-of-all-specialist-of-none background makes me think probably not,
since I think modern doctoral robes are like choir robes with all the
cartridge pleating and I don't think many garments displayed cartridge
pleating until the late 16th century.

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote:

> I'm looking for information on Academic Dress -- and I turned to Davenport
> -- they have the nice section on Clerical Dress.
>
> The appendix lists several figures: 323, 594-596, 1560-1578, and 1759.
>
> 1561-1578 are Academic Gowns as is 1759. 323 and 594-596, however, are
> clearly *NOT* academic regalia (nor are they identified as such in the
> captions or text).
>
> Was there ever a set of corrections for the figures in Davenport? Does
> anybody know what those correct figures might be?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Susan/ Jerusha
> --
> Susan Farmer
> sfar...@goldsword.com
> Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
> Division of Science and Math
> http://www.abac.edu/sfarmer/
> http://www.goldsword.com/**sfarmer/Trillium/
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Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress

[Susan B. Farmer]

On 7/23/2011 10:08 PM, Emily Gilbert wrote:

Our dean keeps saying that Academic Dress (tm) is unchanged since the
14th Century -- I want to know what 14th C Academic Dress looks like!

I've always thought that some of the robes worn by my dad's colleagues
at Commencement - especially the ones that have velvet trim and a floppy
hat instead of the mortarboard - wouldn't look out of place at a
Renaissance Faire! : )



Indeed!  Those are basically Tudor Flat Caps.

FYI, the ones with the Velvet Trim are doctoral robes.

Susan
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Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress

[Susan B. Farmer]

On 7/23/2011 10:30 PM, Aurora Celeste wrote:

Margaret Scott's new book "Fashion in the Middle Ages" has a section on
academic dress: pgs 74-7.  I don't know much about modern academic wear, but
I'd say it only bears a passing resemblance.  Also, my
knowledge-of-all-specialist-of-none background makes me think probably not,
since I think modern doctoral robes are like choir robes with all the
cartridge pleating and I don't think many garments displayed cartridge
pleating until the late 16th century.



Awesome!  I'll get that via ILL!  Thanks!

Susan
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sfar...@goldsword.com
Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
Division of Science and Math
http://www.abac.edu/sfarmer/
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/
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Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress

[Susan B. Farmer]

On 7/23/2011 10:30 PM, Aurora Celeste wrote:

Margaret Scott's new book "Fashion in the Middle Ages" has a section on
academic dress: pgs 74-7.  I don't know much about modern academic wear, but
I'd say it only bears a passing resemblance.  Also, my
knowledge-of-all-specialist-of-none background makes me think probably not,
since I think modern doctoral robes are like choir robes with all the
cartridge pleating and I don't think many garments displayed cartridge
pleating until the late 16th century.



Sweet.  Amazon's "look inside" feature just let me look at those pages. 
 :-D


While not exhaustive, that's more than I knew before -- and it's got 
illos -- and ideas for further research.


Thank you so much!

susan (goes to order book)
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Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
Division of Science and Math
http://www.abac.edu/sfarmer/
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/
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