Re: [h-cost] Brim Stiffening
Lynn McMasters says: "A concentrated solution of Gelatin. I usually dissolve one package of Knox gelatin in about 1/3 cup of water in the microwave. It takes something under a minute. Brush that on the under side and slip the hat on the block that has been covered with plastic wrap to dry." I did this with a flat brim, so my "hat block" was just a flat surface. Hope this helps. Claudine > > From: "penn...@costumegallery.com" >To: 'Historical Costume' >Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 1:56 AM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim Stiffening > >I need to stiffen straw hat brims...any suggestions? > >Penny Ladnier, owner >The Costume Gallery Websites >www.costumegallery.com >15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history >FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 30" linen?
That's a really off size for modern mills. If you do manage to find 30" linen, you might have to pay through the nose for it. My solution was to do a hand rolled hem where the selvedge edges would be. That was close enough, for my purposes. Claudine > > From: "llwa...@juno.com" >To: h-costume@mail.indra.com >Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:34 AM >Subject: [h-cost] 30" linen? > >Does anyone knew of a place that sells 30" wide linen? The shift pattern I >was going to try out was designed for narrower fabric, and the sewing >instructions use the selvages so cutting down a wider piece won't quite work. > >(It's no big deal, cotton is just as appropriate and I can find 30" cotton >muslin everywhere. I just like the feel of linen, and since I'm going through >menopause I thought linen might be cooler.) > >Leah > > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Finding Real Starch
To be precise, Amazon provides a front end for third-party retailers. For instance, I found Argo being sold by Barnes Health Care. I ASSUME Amazon takes a cut from every sale, so you might be doing the retailers a favor by buying direct from them. Claudine > > From: Beteena Paradise >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:07 AM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] Finding Real Starch > >Amazon.com has all of this stuff too. > >Teena > > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] starch recipe
Wow, you guys have some amazing search-fu. I've made liquid starch from water and cornstarch, and just eyeballed how much water I needed. Mostly my starch came out much thinner than I wanted. Also, even keeping it in the fridge, it smells not so great (I left some out once, and it just got RANK). I'll try adding lemon next time. I'm imagining lemon juice may also inhibit mold growth in the starch. Claudine > > From: Katy Bishop >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:43 AM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] starch recipe > >Perfect, thanks! > >On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Wicked Frau wrote: >> Sta Flo is also available online. As I was searching for it, I found this >> recipe. >> http://www.pinkyhasabrain.com/homemade-cleaning-recipes/homemade-liquid-starch-recipe/ >> >> I especially like that it adds fragrance. >> > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] doll costuming
Hi Emily, When I sewed doll clothes (which I don't so much anymore), I did all the patterning from scratch (because I wanted to). I've run across various doll clothing-related things, though, I two come to mind. First, if you intend to sew for the Barbie-size/style figure, then there are actually commercial patterns available, including from one or more of the Big 3...er, 2, I guess. I vaguely recall that one of them did the Gone With The Wind curtain dress, and other hoop-era dresses. Second, on a visit to Lacis in Berkeley I picked up these wonderful Victorian dress patterns for a doll, but in they included the pattern for the doll herself. I'm not quite sure where I put these patterns, but they're great, very detailed. If you could narrow down what type of doll you want to sew for, that would be helpful. They range in size an shape as much (or maybe more) than people do, and each "style" of doll comes with a whole range of resources. > > From: Emily Gilbert >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:23 AM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] doll costuming > >Hi Claudine, > >Websites, books, patterns, etc. that you've found useful. I'm more >interested in making clothing for an existing doll than in making the >doll itself, and I'd prefer the kind of doll that's proportioned as an >adult woman. I've read the book Sewing Victorian Doll Clothes: >Authentic Costumes from Museum Collections, by Michelle Hamilton, and >found it very interesting. > >Thanks! >Emily > > >On 12/10/2011 10:29 AM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Hi Emily, >> >> I've done some doll costuming. What kind of resources are you looking for? >> >> >> >> Claudine >> >> >> >> >>> >>> From: Emily Gilbert >>> To: Historical Costume >>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:15 AM >>> Subject: [h-cost] doll costuming >>> >>> I know some people on this list do doll costuming as well as the full-sized >>> version. Can you recommend any good resources for the curious novice? >>> >>> Emily >>> ___ >>> h-costume mailing list >>> h-costume@mail.indra.com >>> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] doll costuming
Hi Emily, I've done some doll costuming. What kind of resources are you looking for? Claudine > > From: Emily Gilbert >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:15 AM >Subject: [h-cost] doll costuming > >I know some people on this list do doll costuming as well as the full-sized >version. Can you recommend any good resources for the curious novice? > >Emily >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
Having had my fun with hot glue, I say: no, too soft. For it to be rigid enough, it would have to be thick, and that makes it not very good as a stay. Claudine > > From: Sharon Collier >To: 'Historical Costume' >Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:30 PM >Subject: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume > >I've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just >making a new post. >As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt >glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water, >if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is >malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and >worth a try. >Sharon C. >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] artificial whalebone
1/8" wide zip ties, though they only come in short lengths. Long enough for corsetry, though (yeah, been there, done that). Claudine > >From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:01 AM >Subject: [h-cost] artificial whalebone > >Greetings, > >Has anyone had much luck cutting down the white plastic artificial whalebone, >into much smaller pieces, say length-wise? I've tried soaking it in boiling >water first to try and soften it up, I tried using a brand new exacto knife, >scissors, and all I got was a mess and sore hands. I'm trying to create >doll-sized (22") boning from the full sized piece since I can't seem to find >anything that would make good doll boning in and of itself. If anyone has >suggestions, I would love to hear them! > >Cheers, >Danielle > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] buying saris [was: Re: Renaissance dance costumes]
I don't find prices at the physical stores to be in the same range as the earlier poster quoted. The physical stores also tend to stock modern "party wear" saris, and the modern motifs are sometimes just too modern for period costuming (party saris are also generally poly or rayon, and I'm always looking for cotton or silk, but I'm shopping in a different price range anyway). Claudine > >From: Sharon Collier >To: 'Historical Costume' >Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 1:11 PM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] Renaissance dance costumes > >I just went to Google maps and typed "Indian fabric" into the search bar and >I got a bunch of stores locally that sell Indian fabric. I don't know where >you are located, (I'm in the San Francisco Bay area), but you could try >this. >Sharon C. > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] buying saris [was: Re: Renaissance dance costumes]
HI Denise, At that $10/each you're looking at cotton, poly, or "art silk" (which I think is poly or rayon) saris. At $5/each you're looking at bulk packs of relatively plain saris. Either would probably be coming straight out of India, so add shipping. I've only really found prices like that on ebay. Try this search string: (sari,saree) -petticoat -kurta lot You'll find a ton more on http://www.ebay.in but then you have to find a seller willing to ship to the US. Claudine > >From: Land of Oz >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:47 AM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] Renaissance dance costumes > >Can you recommend a seller or the correct search terms to find sari fabric >in this price range? I've been looking but all I can find is cotton >petticoats or custom wedding saris and other expensive sari. > >Denise > >" >>fabrics or -if you have some time- >>order actual saris online. You can >>easily order a lot of them from the >>same seller for little $$. Most >>saris go for about $10 on ebay with >>an actual lot of them going for 7 for >>$50. > Since each sari is about 5 > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover
If that's the case, just lop the boobs off and move them to where you need them to be. The cover (properly fit) will hold the foam in place. Claudine > >From: Guenievre de Monmarche >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:44 AM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover > >Well, this was actually more for mundane stuff than for costuming - I >don't do any corseted eras (yet), though I am pondering that same >solution to make her me-in-a-gothic-gown shaped (which, like regency, >moves things even higher). (Not to make more undergowns, but to have a >better base for draping overgowns for myself...) > >Guenièvre > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover
Frankly, what a lot of costumers do is just lop the boobs off, corset the thing, and then pad to where your boobs would be. Those spongy boobs just don't move the way real boobs do. I can't get my Regency undergarments on my dummy, because they do a massive lift of my boobs (so that I can get a better Regency silhouette; I have the opposite problem that you have). Claudine > >From: Guenievre de Monmarche >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:57 AM >Subject: Re: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover > >Has anyone tried to move the bustline (or maybe take the shoulders >down?) on their UY dressform? I have a VERY short upper chest, and the >boobs on mine are about the right *size*, but also about 2 inches >lower than they should be. I've been pondering "bustlift" surgery on >it, and whether it would be easier to cut them off and move them up, >or something else... > >Guenièvre > > > >On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Cin wrote: >> Thanks all for your helpful hints & vendor reviews. I'm on it! >> --cin >> Cynthia Barnes >> cinbar...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Cin wrote: >>> Ladies & gents, >>> I'm in the market for a new cover for a recent adopted Uniquely You >>> dressmakers dummy. >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover
Marjorie wrote: The U You forms are _all_ too large for your given size. Especially the boobage! My spouse and I went into hysterics when we saw mine unboxed for the first time. She was so *excessively* perky. . . Oh, I know. It's designed that way. But there's also a problem with how Uniquely You tells you how to pick sizes. They say to go with your hip measurement. WELL, my hips are 2 whole dress sizes bigger than my bust measurement. Hey, the post-fitting cover fit great around the hips. Everywhere else? Fuggedaboutit. Yeah, I would've been much happier padding out the hips than shaving down the torso (and it's still not right, but it's close). Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover
Cin, I wouldn't bother buying a cover. Just draft or drape a princess-seam sloper on yerself, with a center front seam and two eyelets at CF, at your bustline. Then you just need the zipper. I made a cover out of canvas because I found the material the stock cover is made of to be awfully flimsy (but I was also struggling with a too-large form). Claudine > >From: Cin >To: H-costume >Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 4:30 PM >Subject: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover > >Ladies & gents, >I'm in the market for a new cover for a recent adopted Uniquely You >dressmakers dummy. A friend pulled her out of a dumpster. She's been >washed & in the process the cover shredded & must be replaced. I'd >shop locally but there's no one near who seems to carry covers only. >I'm forced to check online. Does anyone have info, good or bad about >this vendor? http://www.sewvacdirect.com/uniquelyyou-cvr5.html The >price is pretty reasonable. I've never heard of them before. >In the meantime, I see about finding a replacement stand for her. >Thanks all! >--cin >Cynthia Barnes >cinbar...@gmail.com >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Storing a wedding gown.
I've gotten acid free tissue and archival storage boxes (marketed for things like wedding gown storage) at The Container Store. They're at a mall near you or online at http://www.containerstore.com . Claudine > >From: "albert...@aol.com" >To: h-cost...@indra.com >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:59 AM >Subject: [h-cost] Storing a wedding gown. > >Greetings Earthings, > > >A friend wants to pack up her wedding gown for safe keeping but didn' like the >price of having someone do it for her. The gown is not silk or anything. It's >all synthetic I think. (It's really beautiful even if it is synthetic) I told >her she just needs to stuff it and wrap it in acid free tissue paper and put >it in a box that is not plastic. I remember we used to store things in the >costume shop at school, and also a friend of mine that collected vintage, in >waxed cardboard boxes. > > >Was my advice sound, d'ya think? > > >Also, I don't know a source for acid free tissue or boxes anymore but I >confess, I haven't done a search online or anything yet. > > >Any and all help is greatly appreciated. > > >Gray Hunter >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] SPAMMERS ON HCOSTUME
Folks, These days it does not take a spammer gaining control of your email account. Just clicking on the wrong thing can cause a malicious program to infiltrate your account and snatch your address book. The solution: be careful what you click. Now, we all recognize spam when we see it (at least, I hope we do). Just DELETE and let's get back to our regularly scheduled costume conversation. Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones
I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. I've sewn beads (glass pearls) onto fabric with a standard beading needle. Claudine > >From: Lavolta Press >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 3:13 PM >Subject: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones > >I just received in a mail (from India) a large multiple strand of little >citrines, pretty but almost certainly not of the highest gem quality. If >nothing else the stringing is awful and I hate the clasp, so they'd need to be >restrung. But, they are essentially beads, a teardrop shape with a hole >pierced through across the narrow end. So I might be able to sew them to cloth >assuming I can get a narrow enough needle. > >Problem: I am sure they will wash, being stones, but I am not sure they will >dry clean. And I think they'd work best attached to a medium weight to heavy, >dry-cleanable, rather fancy fabric. > >Has anyone tried using real stones for beading and dry cleaning them? Or >should I just have them restrung into a better quality of necklace? > >Thanks for any info. > >Fran >Lavolta Press >Books of historic clothing patterns >www.lavoltapress.com >www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress > > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need information on "sacque" garments (NOT the dress)
>"VCR" means "video cassette recorder". Perhaps the writer had seen
some historic garments described on a video?
Well,
I know THAT (I'm not that young). There was some context missing in the
quote ("get on the VCR..." and what?) so it's possible that this was an
acronym for something else. If she really did mean a video cassette
recorder, then I want to know what she was telling the reader to go look
at.
Claudine
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Re: [h-cost] Need information on "sacque" garments (NOT the dress)
Best thing would be if you could post a photo of one or two of these garments (spread out flat would be sufficient). From the description you quoted, these sound like just...shirts. Or shifts. I don't think "sacque" is a term used for these garments either in that time period or modernly...except that she refers to "a man's sacque coat" though I don't see how that relates to the garments described thereafter. The generic dictionary definition for "sacque" is "a woman's full loose hip-length jacket" (dictionary.com) and what she describes doesn't fit that definition. What is "the VCR?" Claudine > >From: WorkroomButtons.com >To: Historical Costume >Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:29 AM >Subject: [h-cost] Need information on "sacque" garments (NOT the dress) > >Back at the Reed Homestead... we are moving on to the next pile -- stacks and >stacks of shirt-like garments with no closures (other than a few with ties at >the neck). > >We hired a woman in 1995 to start pulling clothing literally out of garbage >bags and start cataloging. (Sadly, we still have pieces from 1809 still in >garbage bags -- yes, the black plastic kind.) She called these shirt-like >garments "sacques" and this is want she wrote about them... > >"...I would like someone after me to write the word "sacque" which is what >we're going to use for the generic term. A sacque is a garment which hangs >from the shoulder down without interruption, without darts, without a waist >seam, so a man's sacque coat is one that was not cut in at the waist. And >that seems to be a generic form for this style if garment, no matter how it's >being used, but as I said before and you got on the VCR I think, these can be >used as a working garment with a skirt, held in place with an apron. They can >be used as a short nightgown for hot weather and when somebody is ill and is >using a bedpan. They can be used over your dress when you're doing your hair >and that's probably about it. Oh, yes, and the other thing is for maternity, >when it's an expandable top for when you're pregnant and obviously can be used >for nursing as well. And nobody has as many as you have." > >We have attempted to locate information about this type of garment, but >clearly we're looking in the wrong places because we're coming up empty. We >can find "saques" certainly but they don't look like ours. > >Any ideas? > >Dede O'Hair >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] weight of batting [was:Re: Heavy underwear]
The heaviest single article in all my undergarments is a quilted petticoat, BUT: it's cotton on the outside, cotton batting on the inside. In the period (1750 to, oh, say 1810), this petticoat would more likely have had wool batting, and either wool broadcloth or silk on the outsides. I've never had the pleasure of handling wool batting, and in my imagination it's lighter than cotton batting. Can anyone confirm that? Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
