Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
Ah now I recall why I didn't buy this before. It's pricey! But it looks wonderful. Maybe next year... MaggiRos --- Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, MaggiRos wrote: > > > I seem to remember (long ago) someone on the list > posted a website for > > commercial patterns for an Aesthetic tea dress or > something. Would > > anyone happen to know of such a thing? > > I just mentioned Folkwear, but I was wrong. The one > I was thinking about > was from La Mode Bagatelle: > > http://www.ravenrook.com/bagatelle/art.jsp > http://www.sewingcentral.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=lmb002.html&cart_id=7858735_12881 > ...and probably other vendors too. > > Some reviews here, bottom of page: > > http://www.gbacg.org/Patterns/lmb.htm > > No, I've never done this period. I just love looking > at it. > > IIRC, some of the St. Louis Costume Guild people > (including a few on this > list?) made artistic dresses for the most recent > CostumeCon, but I don't > know which pattern, if any, they used. > > --Robin > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
Ah yes. I've seen this before and apparently lost the links. Thank you! MaggiRos --- Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, MaggiRos wrote: > > > I seem to remember (long ago) someone on the list > posted a website for > > commercial patterns for an Aesthetic tea dress or > something. Would > > anyone happen to know of such a thing? > > I just mentioned Folkwear, but I was wrong. The one > I was thinking about > was from La Mode Bagatelle: > > http://www.ravenrook.com/bagatelle/art.jsp > http://www.sewingcentral.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=lmb002.html&cart_id=7858735_12881 > ...and probably other vendors too. > > Some reviews here, bottom of page: > > http://www.gbacg.org/Patterns/lmb.htm > > No, I've never done this period. I just love looking > at it. > > IIRC, some of the St. Louis Costume Guild people > (including a few on this > list?) made artistic dresses for the most recent > CostumeCon, but I don't > know which pattern, if any, they used. > > --Robin > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
Are there any commercial patterns available online? MaggiRos --- Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote: > > > I'd say humor and satire magazines, like Punch, > would have more > > coverage of Aesthetic-style clothing than regular > fashion magazines. > > The Aesthetics weren't high fashion, they were > counter-culture, the > > Beatniks, Hippies, and Punks of their day. > > The Aesthetics themselves, yes -- they were not > quite respectable, and > some of them were considered scandalous. But just as > fashion-conscious > people in the 1960s and 70s adopted tie-dye and > denims from the hippies, > mainstream 19th century designers adopted a version > of the Aesthetic look > and tidied it up for fashionable wear. In 1884, a > high-fashion London > store, Liberty, opened a special department called > the Artistic and > Historic Costume Studio. This became the top > shopping spot of the > Aesthetic set, but it also got plenty of business > selling clothes with > "artistic" or "historical" elements to more > conventional shoppers. Stella > Mary Newton's book has some good information on > this, including some > pictures of fashion plates of artistic dress from > Harper's and a picture > of an extant artistic dress from Liberty. > > Punch did have good cartoons about the Aesthetes, > though. > > --Robin > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
Bjarne said: Thanks, Bjarne,I didn't know about the Ankers. I found a print at Art.com of Anna Anker (Ancher, by their spelling) by Michael. The link is very long, but if you go to www.art.com and put in Michael Anker, the portrait is right there. It's a great sunny portrait on a very gray, rainy day here, too. Caryn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
Hi Yeah thats right, and also the danish female artist called Anna Anker was wearing these dresses. I believe there is a portrait that her husband made of her, his name was Michael Anker. But if these are online i dont have a clue about. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Caryn Sobel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress lots of pictures? Or, failing that, some detailed websites?> Karin Larsson, the wife of Swedish artist Carl Larsson, was known for her own take on Aesthetic-style dresses, and her husband often painted her in her designs. The book _Carl and Karin Larsson: Creators of the Swedish Style_ has paintings and photos of her, as well as mention of her style. Hope this helps, Caryn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
If you are speaking of an Empire gown sort of dress (I can't remember the period for this dress, but the Kate Greenway children et al are attired in Empire gowns with the boys in breeches, etc), the pattern by Folkwear has, to my taste, excessive gathers in the bodice. I prefer a pattern with a smoother bodice (picky, I know) where the gathers are present but not obvious. I highly recommend the patterns found in the _Patterns of History_ books by Janet Arnold. They are not commercial patterns, per se, but are not difficult to follow. Marjorie Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net Creating a Circa 1798 - 1805 Empire Gown http://marjoriegilbert.net/album_30_028.htm - Original Message - From: "Robin Netherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, MaggiRos wrote: > > > I seem to remember (long ago) someone on the list posted a website for > > commercial patterns for an Aesthetic tea dress or something. Would > > anyone happen to know of such a thing? > > I think Folkwear has one. > > --Robin > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
They used that pattern. However, I don't believe it is still available. Karen On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:41:07 -0500 (CDT) Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, MaggiRos wrote: I seem to remember (long ago) someone on the list posted a website for commercial patterns for an Aesthetic tea dress or something. Would anyone happen to know of such a thing? I just mentioned Folkwear, but I was wrong. The one I was thinking about was from La Mode Bagatelle: http://www.ravenrook.com/bagatelle/art.jsp http://www.sewingcentral.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=lmb002.html&cart_id=7858735_12881 ...and probably other vendors too. Some reviews here, bottom of page: http://www.gbacg.org/Patterns/lmb.htm No, I've never done this period. I just love looking at it. IIRC, some of the St. Louis Costume Guild people (including a few on this list?) made artistic dresses for the most recent CostumeCon, but I don't know which pattern, if any, they used. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
lots of pictures? Or, failing that, some detailed websites?> Karin Larsson, the wife of Swedish artist Carl Larsson, was known for her own take on Aesthetic-style dresses, and her husband often painted her in her designs. The book _Carl and Karin Larsson: Creators of the Swedish Style_ has paintings and photos of her, as well as mention of her style. Hope this helps, Caryn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote: > I'd say humor and satire magazines, like Punch, would have more > coverage of Aesthetic-style clothing than regular fashion magazines. > The Aesthetics weren't high fashion, they were counter-culture, the > Beatniks, Hippies, and Punks of their day. The Aesthetics themselves, yes -- they were not quite respectable, and some of them were considered scandalous. But just as fashion-conscious people in the 1960s and 70s adopted tie-dye and denims from the hippies, mainstream 19th century designers adopted a version of the Aesthetic look and tidied it up for fashionable wear. In 1884, a high-fashion London store, Liberty, opened a special department called the Artistic and Historic Costume Studio. This became the top shopping spot of the Aesthetic set, but it also got plenty of business selling clothes with "artistic" or "historical" elements to more conventional shoppers. Stella Mary Newton's book has some good information on this, including some pictures of fashion plates of artistic dress from Harper's and a picture of an extant artistic dress from Liberty. Punch did have good cartoons about the Aesthetes, though. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
Fashion magazines of the period, such as Harper's, would be another good
source, but I haven't followed the chain that far.
I'd say humor and satire magazines, like Punch, would have more coverage of
Aesthetic-style clothing than regular fashion magazines. The Aesthetics
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Punks of their day.
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Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, MaggiRos wrote: > I seem to remember (long ago) someone on the list posted a website for > commercial patterns for an Aesthetic tea dress or something. Would > anyone happen to know of such a thing? I think Folkwear has one. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, MaggiRos wrote: > I seem to remember (long ago) someone on the list posted a website for > commercial patterns for an Aesthetic tea dress or something. Would > anyone happen to know of such a thing? I just mentioned Folkwear, but I was wrong. The one I was thinking about was from La Mode Bagatelle: http://www.ravenrook.com/bagatelle/art.jsp http://www.sewingcentral.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=lmb002.html&cart_id=7858735_12881 ...and probably other vendors too. Some reviews here, bottom of page: http://www.gbacg.org/Patterns/lmb.htm No, I've never done this period. I just love looking at it. IIRC, some of the St. Louis Costume Guild people (including a few on this list?) made artistic dresses for the most recent CostumeCon, but I don't know which pattern, if any, they used. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
I seem to remember (long ago) someone on the list posted a website for commercial patterns for an Aesthetic tea dress or something. Would anyone happen to know of such a thing? Maggie --- Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Since someone mentioned Aesthetic dress, I went > looking at pictures, > > and I think I really like it! Can anyone recommend > a good book with > > lots of pictures? Or, failing that, some detailed > websites? > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since someone mentioned Aesthetic dress, I went looking at pictures, > and I think I really like it! Can anyone recommend a good book with > lots of pictures? Or, failing that, some detailed websites? None of these are loaded with pictures, but all are useful: Book: Stella Mary Newton, Health, Art & Reason: Dress reformers of the 19th century (London: John Murray, 1974). This is the comprehensive study of the Rational/Artistic/Aesthetic dress movement. Follow her footnotes for more sources. Two articles from the journal _Costume_: Shonfield, Zuzanna, "Miss Marshall and the Cimabue Browns," Costume, No. 13 (1979), pp. 62-72. Ormond, Leonee, "Female Costume in the Aesthetic Movement of the 1870 and 1880s," Costume, No. 2, 33-38; reprinted in combined Nos. 1-2, pp. 47-52. Web sites (here's where you'll find pictures!): http://costume.osu.edu/Reforming_Fashion/reformdress.htm http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~kchancey/corsetaesthetic.html http://www.fashion-era.com/rational_dress.htm http://www.fashion-era.com/aesthetics.htm There's also some overlap with the Pre-Raphaelites, and you can find some pictures of people like Jane Morris and Oscar Wilde in artistic dress if you spend enough time looking through books about the lives of these people. Fashion magazines of the period, such as Harper's, would be another good source, but I haven't followed the chain that far. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Heidi, Kate Greenaway, and Aesthetic dress
Hi guys, Thanks for all the input on my question about Heidi. (I know this is late, but I'm a little behind on my e-mail.) I really appreciated the suggestion of Kate Greenaway -- I've been collecting reprints of classic children's book illustrators, just because I like the art, but it didn't occur to me to check there for inspiration. Since someone mentioned Aesthetic dress, I went looking at pictures, and I think I really like it! Can anyone recommend a good book with lots of pictures? Or, failing that, some detailed websites? Thanks! Tea Rose Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
