[h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses?
http://www.fabric.com/apparel-fashion-fabric-wool-fabric-wool-flannel- fabric.aspx?cm_mmc=Email-_-8/29/06%20Labor%20day%20sale-_-Real%20Deal- _-Wool%20Flannel Susan "Creative Clutter is Better Than Idle Neatness" Carol H. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses?
At 03:02 PM 8/29/2006, you wrote: http://www.fabric.com/apparel-fashion-fabric-wool-fabric-wool-flannel- fabric.aspx?cm_mmc=Email-_-8/29/06%20Labor%20day%20sale-_-Real%20Deal- _-Wool%20Flannel Susan Looks lovely to me. What sort of use do you have in mind? Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Saw this on fabric.com website and thought I would alert folks to it and ask if it was worthy of use in Period Attire. I am primarily interested in Rev War and Civil War/Victorian (USA). Most interested in Sidesaddle Riding Habits for those time periods, but am expanding to unmounted clothing as well. Husband will "dress" for those time periods, if I provide the clothing. He has his own horse, as well. Susan "Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for". - "Ride the Dark Trail" by Louis L'Amour On Aug 29, 2006, at 11:34 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 03:02 PM 8/29/2006, you wrote: http://www.fabric.com/apparel-fashion-fabric-wool-fabric-wool- flannel- fabric.aspx?cm_mmc=Email-_-8/29/06%20Labor%20day%20sale-_- Real%20Deal- _-Wool%20Flannel Susan Looks lovely to me. What sort of use do you have in mind? Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses?
I saw this yesterday morning as well. And I was pretty darned excited, until I saw the fiber content. It's 20% nylon, which is too much for me. Also, I'm not all that thrilled with the colors. It all depends on your needs, for ACW/Victorian it might be just fine. For Early Period, it's not what I'm looking for. It is an excellent price, though. ::Linda:: -Original Message- On Behalf Of Susan Data-Samtak Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses? Saw this on fabric.com website and thought I would alert folks to it and ask if it was worthy of use in Period Attire. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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20% Nylon? Well, crap I was excited, too, but hadn't had time yet to check it out. Bummer. --Sue, looking for some wool for an early-Medieval clothing item (gardecorps) - Original Message - From: "Linda Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:55 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses? > I saw this yesterday morning as well. And I was pretty darned excited, > until I saw the fiber content. It's 20% nylon, which is too much for me. > Also, I'm not all that thrilled with the colors. It all depends on your > needs, for ACW/Victorian it might be just fine. For Early Period, it's > not what I'm looking for. > > It is an excellent price, though. > > ::Linda:: > > > -Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Susan Data-Samtak > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming > uses? > > Saw this on fabric.com website and thought I would alert folks to it > and ask if it was worthy of use in Period Attire. > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 07:08 AM 8/30/2006, you wrote: 20% Nylon? Well, crap I was excited, too, but hadn't had time yet to check it out. Bummer. --Sue, looking for some wool for an early-Medieval clothing item (gardecorps) Fooey! I didn't look at the individual fabric listings, so I missed the nylon content. But they do have some 100% wool gabardine which might be nice, it's a bit lighter weight, though. http://www.fabric.com/apparel-fashion-fabric-wool-fabric-wool-gabardine.aspx Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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There's a reason I became very biased towards FFC, and its name is selection: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/Catalog_items.aspx?Query=100%%20wool -E "biased" House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Wednesday 30 August 2006 10:55 am, Joan Jurancich wrote: > At 07:08 AM 8/30/2006, you wrote: > >20% Nylon? Well, crap > >I was excited, too, but hadn't had time yet to check it out. Bummer. > >--Sue, looking for some wool for an early-Medieval clothing item > >(gardecorps) > > Fooey! I didn't look at the individual fabric listings, so I missed > the nylon content. But they do have some 100% wool gabardine which > might be nice, it's a bit lighter weight, > though. > http://www.fabric.com/apparel-fashion-fabric-wool-fabric-wool-gabardine.asp I don't believe in wool gabardine for medieval clothing; it looks way too shiny, even if it is 100% wool. Fabric.com does have nice flannels from time to time, though the color choice is often too restricted for my taste. The selection varies a lot; they often do have 100% wool melton and flannel, just not now (apparently). -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity." --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I've got some lovely, lovely flannel, purchased earlier this summer from Pastiche, but was looking for a few more yards for a 13th century project, and then some wool that's in between flannel and melton, weight-wise. I want it for an outer garment (the gardecorps), but I don't want it so stiff and heavy that it's like wearing armor. I'm built like a tank as it is , so I need something that drapes a bit more than the meltons I've met. --Sue - Original Message - From: "Catherine Olanich Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses? > On Wednesday 30 August 2006 10:55 am, Joan Jurancich wrote: > > At 07:08 AM 8/30/2006, you wrote: > > >20% Nylon? Well, crap > > >I was excited, too, but hadn't had time yet to check it out. Bummer. > > >--Sue, looking for some wool for an early-Medieval clothing item > > >(gardecorps) > > > > Fooey! I didn't look at the individual fabric listings, so I missed > > the nylon content. But they do have some 100% wool gabardine which > > might be nice, it's a bit lighter weight, > > though. > > http://www.fabric.com/apparel-fashion-fabric-wool-fabric-wool-gabardine.asp > > I don't believe in wool gabardine for medieval clothing; it looks way too > shiny, even if it is 100% wool. > > Fabric.com does have nice flannels from time to time, though the color choice > is often too restricted for my taste. The selection varies a lot; they often > do have 100% wool melton and flannel, just not now (apparently). > > -- > Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point > of doubtful sanity." --Robert Frost > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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> I don't believe in wool gabardine for medieval clothing; it looks way > too > shiny, even if it is 100% wool. > > Fabric.com does have nice flannels from time to time, though the color > choice > is often too restricted for my taste. The selection varies a lot; they > often > do have 100% wool melton and flannel, just not now (apparently). > Yes, but you can often "unshine" it by ignoring all the care instructions and washing it/drying it a couple times really roughly... Guenièvre ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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For what it's worth, I recently did a thread count comparison between the counts given in "Medieval Textiles" and "Woven into the Earth," and some common types of modern wool (including gabardine). To my surprise, even the normal-to-coarse modern wools that should have been comparable based on text descriptions were FAR finer (like 2-3 times the thread count) than even the extant textiles that were described as being extremely fine. If anyone is interested in more detail, I'll look around for the notebook that has my preliminary notes and post 'em here. Long story short, though, go for the coarser woolens if you want a really authentic-looking fabric, at least for pre ~1475, and for early period & vikingish stuff, try to find a coarse worsted. (Woolens didn't get hip until what, around 12thC-13thC? sorry, posting without my references.) -E House (Loves the fine worsteds far too much to give them up. Besides, I haven't gotten thread counts for the early 16thC yet. Maybe things were different then! Anyone have any references?) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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- Original Message - From: "Guenievre de Monmarche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses? > I don't believe in wool gabardine for medieval clothing; it looks way > too > shiny, even if it is 100% wool. Yes, but you can often "unshine" it by ignoring all the care instructions and washing it/drying it a couple times really roughly... Guenièvre I wash and dry mine when it needs it...doesn't appear to have hurt it in the least! Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On Thursday 31 August 2006 9:24 am, Guenievre de Monmarche wrote: [actually, I said:] > > I don't believe in wool gabardine for medieval clothing; it looks way > > too > > shiny, even if it is 100% wool. > > > > Fabric.com does have nice flannels from time to time, though the color > > choice > > is often too restricted for my taste. The selection varies a lot; they > > often > > do have 100% wool melton and flannel, just not now (apparently). [and Guenièvre replied:] > Yes, but you can often "unshine" it by ignoring all the care instructions > and washing it/drying it a couple times really roughly... That will take care of the shine, I'm sure, though I'm not convinced that it will have the right hand or be thick enough when done. I will defer, however, to the opinions of those who have tried it. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity." --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I've been meaning to this for awhile. I would certainly be interested in seeing your counts. I was at Birka (Sweden) a week ago and they had a dark blue worsted twill fabric sample (and a handwoven bolt reproduced.. that could be handled) that was fine. They said that it was quite common in the finds. Have you looked at Lise Bender Jorgensen's "North European Textiles Until AD 1000" ? Beth Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:36:15 -0500 From: "E House" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For what it's worth, I recently did a thread count comparison between the counts given in "Medieval Textiles" and "Woven into the Earth," and some common types of modern wool (including gabardine). To my surprise, even the normal-to-coarse modern wools that should have been comparable based on text descriptions were FAR finer (like 2-3 times the thread count) than even the extant textiles that were described as being extremely fine. If anyone is interested in more detail, I'll look around for the notebook that has my preliminary notes and post 'em here. Long story short, though, go for the coarser woolens if you want a really authentic-looking fabric, at least for pre ~1475, and for early period & vikingish stuff, try to find a coarse worsted. (Woolens didn't get hip until what, around 12thC-13thC? sorry, posting without my references.) -E House (Loves the fine worsteds far too much to give them up. Besides, I haven't gotten thread counts for the early 16thC yet. Maybe things were different then! Anyone have any references?) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
