Re: [h-cost] Re. leather and stays

2006-04-13 Thread Tania Gruning
I would not use those for binding corsets. I do bookbinding as a hobby and 
those skins are vegetable tanned and very stiff and non stretchy as that is the 
qualities useful in bookbinding. I believe washing skins are alumtanned or 
something like that. At least they are much softer and pliable that bookbinding 
skins
   
  Tania

E House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  By the way, I've seen kidskin for sale as a bookbinding supply--in fact, at 
the moment there's some up for sale on ebay:
http://stores.ebay.com/LEATHER-OUTLET
(click on kid skins under the store categories on the left)
It's about the same cost as buying a similar amount of chamois.

-E House 

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Re: [h-cost] Re. leather and stays

2006-04-12 Thread stilskin
 well as the normal listings.  There's a shoeseller who's retiring from the
> business and is selling off his inventory (id: parkridge101) 


Mmm, I wish I was there!

A few years ago, a shoe making factory here inMmelbourne closed down and all 
was being sold. People walked out with great machinery and tools and many 
businesses bought up a lot of the leather stock before auction they thought may 
be useful. At the bottom of the leather racks, unpurchased until I came along, 
was all the stock they thought would never be of use...1960s and '70s fashion 
leathers in pretty good condition: hot pink patents, '70s muscle-car-purples, 
maroons, crazy lizard prints, bright orange, flame effects, blue suedes... You 
get the picture.

I still have some but I am never using it because it is mine, mine, ALL 
MINE!!

-C.



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Re: [h-cost] Re. leather and stays

2006-04-12 Thread E House
I looked around a bit more on ebay, and there's several other sellers 
offering it--do a search for kid skin, and be sure to check the stores as 
well as the normal listings.  There's a shoeseller who's retiring from the 
business and is selling off his inventory (id: parkridge101) who has a cream 
colored hide and a partial white hide, both big enough to get several stays 
worth of binding.


It's a pity that I don't seem likely to have time anyday soon to make 18thC 
stays--I'm all in the mood, now!


-E House

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Re: [h-cost] Re. leather and stays

2006-04-12 Thread aquazoo

 Oooh, check out those metallics!!  I didn't see any white, but then
again I didn't look past the first page.  It would be worth
contacting the seller to find out how thin the kid leather is.

 At one point, the Silly Sisters (18thC clothing makers & merchants)
had stay binding leather available in a 1/2" strip, sold by the foot.
 I'm not sure if it was kid, but it was definitely thin enough to
sew.

 I hate the idea of cutting up antiques, but there are kid leather
gloves around where the hand is about 2" across and they would only
fit ET.  Or if you can find them as single gloves (unpaired) or
damaged.

 -Carol

> By the way, I've seen kidskin for sale as a bookbinding supply--in fact,
> at the moment there's some up for sale on ebay:
> http://stores.ebay.com/LEATHER-OUTLET
> (click on kid skins under the store categories on the left)
> It's about the same cost as buying a similar amount of chamois.
>
> -E House


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Re: [h-cost] Re. leather and stays

2006-04-12 Thread E House
By the way, I've seen kidskin for sale as a bookbinding supply--in fact, at 
the moment there's some up for sale on ebay:

http://stores.ebay.com/LEATHER-OUTLET
(click on kid skins under the store categories on the left)
It's about the same cost as buying a similar amount of chamois.

-E House 


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[h-cost] Re. leather and stays

2006-04-12 Thread Martha Kelly
The leather that I've seen binding the edges of 18th century stays is smooth
on the outside and rough on the reverse - like a pair of dressy gloves. (as
mentioned -kid gloves) This looks to be the same leather that was also used
on 19th century corsets I've seen.  Though I can't swear to their animal
origins, I suspect kid.  That was definitely called "wash leather" in the
19th century.
If you want to see the crescent pad under the arm go to the Kent State site.
Two of the ones there have this feature, though it's easier to see on one
than the other.
http://dept.kent.edu/museum/costume/bonc/4subjectsearch/lingerie/lingerie18t
h/lingerie18.html
on the first stays - "colonial brown quilted" - you can see it best in the
profile view. It's quite small and looks to be twisted.
on the sixth stays you can see it best (the ones right after the busk.)
The Museum of the City of New York has a set of stays with this underarm
shield made up of several layers of linen rather than leather.
My question - does anyone know the proper name for this underarm piece?

Martha


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