[h-cost] What's it called?
http://www.newadvent.org/images/04351aax.jpg that little square thing at the top edge? What is that called? I've been considering decorating that wide strip of cloth that works as a closure for the half round copes the priests, and everyone seemingly, wore across the high chest to keep them on as my SCA baronial champions project. A previous baronial artisan project spun and wove cloth, and has hand sewn two baronial cloaks. They have worked out to be half round "copes". Since they need a way to be WORN, I thought making a very decoratively beaded, and therefore kickass, set of that strippy thing (whatever THAT THING is called) along with a beaded clasp, or two. I just am drawing a blank on the nameon what those thigns are called... so I can do some design research. Each would have a theme I am thinking, like flora and Fauna, hunting, or something... Anyway I think would be a worthy project , and needed likely, and be hopefully the first of a set of projects to enhance the cloak by following champions with embroidery or ornamentation. Jen/grizel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I'm not sure what it's called, but it functions as the band across the crst that holds the cope shut. usually a meatl fibula holds it closed on one side of the band. Look under Coptic formal clerigy costumes. One might tell you what it's called. - Original Message - From: "jen funk segrest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [h-cost] What's it called? http://www.newadvent.org/images/04351aax.jpg that little square thing at the top edge? What is that called? I've been considering decorating that wide strip of cloth that works as a closure for the half round copes the priests, and everyone seemingly, wore across the high chest to keep them on as my SCA baronial champions project. A previous baronial artisan project spun and wove cloth, and has hand sewn two baronial cloaks. They have worked out to be half round "copes". Since they need a way to be WORN, I thought making a very decoratively beaded, and therefore kickass, set of that strippy thing (whatever THAT THING is called) along with a beaded clasp, or two. I just am drawing a blank on the nameon what those thigns are called... so I can do some design research. Each would have a theme I am thinking, like flora and Fauna, hunting, or something... Anyway I think would be a worthy project , and needed likely, and be hopefully the first of a set of projects to enhance the cloak by following champions with embroidery or ornamentation. Jen/grizel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I've only seen the name once and it escapes my feeble memory grasp. Otherwise I have only heard them called closure bands and there are usually, but not always two. De -Original Message- I'm not sure what it's called, but it functions as the band across the crst that holds the cope shut. usually a meatl fibula holds it closed on one side of the band. Look under Coptic formal clerigy costumes. One might tell you what it's called. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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> http://www.newadvent.org/images/04351aax.jpg > that little square thing at the top edge? What is that called? I don't know what it is called, but it sure looks like there was another one on the other side that may have fallen off (look above the chevron square, third to left of the first tab). Someone mentioned that the "tab" or "tabs" came across the chest to hold the cloak on. I agree with this idea. I think even modern priests have the same setup on their altar cloaks. HTH, Diana www.RenaissanceFabrics.net "Everything for the Costumer" ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 20:43 21/01/2006, you wrote: I've only seen the name once and it escapes my feeble memory grasp. Otherwise I have only heard them called closure bands and there are usually, but not always two. De Don't some clergy still wear copes for certain occasions? You could try asking your local pastor/Reverend/Vicar etc. I would suggest you are more likely to get help from High Anglican/Roman Catholic clergy. (Sorry, those are English terms - don't know the equivalents in the U.S.) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Let me ask my other half since he is actually putting one together so he can do period weddings. Roscelin - Original Message - From: "jen funk segrest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [h-cost] What's it called? http://www.newadvent.org/images/04351aax.jpg that little square thing at the top edge? What is that called? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Here's a link to a modern vestment tailor; it looks like they call it a "cope closure". http://www.aheavenlystitch.com/vestments/copes/ -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Diana Habra wrote: I don't know what it is called, but it sure looks like there was another one on the other side that may have fallen off (look above the chevron square, third to left of the first tab). It doesn't have to be very long to do its job -- my half circle cloak's band is about 5" long. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Cranach's Venus with a machine gun: Vengeful Venus Day t-shirt & etc. at my CafePress store: http://www.cafepress.com/virtueventures/483955 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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At 7:39 AM -0500 1/21/06, jen funk segrest wrote: http://www.newadvent.org/images/04351aax.jpg that little square thing at the top edge? What is that called? I've been considering decorating that wide strip of cloth that works as a closure for the half round copes the priests, and everyone seemingly, wore across the high chest to keep them on as my SCA baronial champions project. It's called a "morse," although I've more commonly seen that word applied to metal brooch-like fastenings. Take a look at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10577c.htm -- OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I finally was able to ask my other half and he says, "Yes, it is called a 'morse'." He also had problems finding it, but finally found it a while back, but can't recall which of our books had the correct term. Roscelin -- Original message -- > At 7:39 AM -0500 1/21/06, jen funk segrest wrote: > >http://www.newadvent.org/images/04351aax.jpg > >that little square thing at the top edge? What is that called? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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- Original Message - From: "Chris Laning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's called a "morse," although I've more commonly seen that word applied to metal brooch-like fastenings. Take a look at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10577c.htm I wonder what exactly they based this entry on--if it's accurate, they're describing a much earlier use of hooks and eyes than any I've found yet (other than the Roman or the armor-related ones, which were a different type of thing). Interesting! -E House, probably too lazy to follow up on it =} ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
