Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction

[Katy Bishop]

I would love to see the photos!  I almost made an Eleonora gown as
part of my final project in college.

Katy

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM, A. Thurman  wrote:
> I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC
> for a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only
> found out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it.
>
> Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even
> back views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's
> interest I can put them on Flickr or the like.
>
> Allison T.
>
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700
>> From: Wicked Frau 
>> To: Historical Costume ,
>>        therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
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>> http://www.kingstudio.it/
>>
>> I must have been asleep in 2004.  How did I miss this exhibit in NY???
>>
>> Very cool.
>>
>> Sg
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Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction

[appin1]

I saw this exhibit at the embassy in DC. Most of the reconstructions are very 
good, but one had me wondering -- the gown was actually below the bosom so all 
you saw on top was the chemise over the mannequin's boobs! The neckline of the 
gown was at ribcage level. 



Kathleen Novell





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From: A. Thurman 
To: h-costume 
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction


I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC
or a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only
ound out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it.
Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even
ack views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's
nterest I can put them on Flickr or the like.
Allison T.
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700
 From: Wicked Frau 
 To: Historical Costume ,
therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
 Message-ID:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 http://www.kingstudio.it/

 I must have been asleep in 2004.  How did I miss this exhibit in NY???

 Very cool.

 Sg

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Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction

[A. Thurman]

I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC
for a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only
found out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it.

Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even
back views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's
interest I can put them on Flickr or the like.

Allison T.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:

> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700
> From: Wicked Frau 
> To: Historical Costume ,
>        therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
> Message-ID:
>        
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> http://www.kingstudio.it/
>
> I must have been asleep in 2004.  How did I miss this exhibit in NY???
>
> Very cool.
>
> Sg
>

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Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction

[monica spence]

It was a amazing exhibit, but not well publicized. It was held in the CUNY
Grad Center on 5th Ave.

I went several times. The curator guard/ lady watching the stuff allowed me
to crawl around the Eleonora de Toledo gown-- and she was wearing a
farthingale, just as Janet Arnold said!

Monica

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Behalf Of Wicked Frau
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Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction

http://www.kingstudio.it/

I must have been asleep in 2004.  How did I miss this exhibit in NY???

Very cool.

Sg
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[h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction

[Wicked Frau]

http://www.kingstudio.it/

I must have been asleep in 2004.  How did I miss this exhibit in NY???

Very cool.

Sg
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Re: [h-cost] new to me fabrics online

[w igmore]

A friend of my has- great results too. Fast delivery absolutly loved the silk 
she got in
Lauren 

--- On Tue, 2/3/09, otsisto  wrote:

From: otsisto 
Subject: [h-cost] new to me fabrics online
To: "Historical Costume" 
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 4:37 AM

Has anyone dealt with fabricguru.com?

De


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Re: [h-cost] new to me fabrics online

[Marion McNealy]

Yes, and everything has been wonderful. Shipping has been reasonably fast and 
the goods have been better in person than on the screen. Not that their 
pictures are bad, but I'm just a very happy customer.

-Marion
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[h-cost] new to me fabrics online

[otsisto]

Has anyone dealt with fabricguru.com?

De


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Re: [h-cost] new to me

[Lalah]

Does her lace ruff stop at the shoulder?  It almost looks like it attaches to 
her black veil.  Is that usual?  Can't remember seeing anything like that 
before, but Elizabethan isn't my primary period (yet).  Thanks
Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender


--- "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:49:13 -0600
To: "Historic Costume" 
Subject: [h-cost] new to me

Miniatures of Nicholas Hillard and his wife Alice Brandon.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_021.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_001.jpg
De

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Re: [h-cost] new to me

[Dianne & Greg Stucki]

Original Message - 
From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Historic Costume" 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:49 PM
Subject: [h-cost] new to me



Miniatures of Nicholas Hillard and his wife Alice Brandon.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_021.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_001.jpg
De



Wow--what a beautiful couple they made! He was a handsome devil, wasn't he?

Fiant simii!

Dianne
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Re: [h-cost] new to me

[AnnBWass]

 
In a message dated 2/10/2006 11:55:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Miniatures of Nicholas Hillard and his wife Alice  Brandon.



Those are really neat!  However, may I humbly suggest a little more  info in 
a post like this, to give us a hint of the period.  I suppose that,  if I 
don't know who Nicholas Hillard is, I can assume that is not a period of  
primary 
interest for me, and it certainly didn't hurt me to look at the pictures  
anyway.  However, how about, in future, saying something like "Miniatures  of  
 , circa 1577"?
 
Ann Wass
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[h-cost] new to me

[otsisto]

Miniatures of Nicholas Hillard and his wife Alice Brandon.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_021.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_001.jpg
De

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[h-cost] New to me painting-wondering about layers-was "what are these?"

[WickedFrau]

Sorry for the cross post
This is a "new to me" painting  http://www.wga.hu/index1.html   
*


CLEVE, Joos van*
Portrait of Agniete van den Rijne
Oil on oak, 40 x 29 cm
Rijksmuseum Twenthe, Enschede


'Spose this lady has 3 garments on besides her chemise?.  I just have to 
wonder if the black thing isn't a corset or gown that looks like the 
ones Sir Thomas Moore's family women are wearing.  
http://www.tudor-portraits.com/ThomasMore.jpg*

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Subject: RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Cin]

Subject: RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo
>> I can't wait to get my hands on a copy of this book.  ... By the
>> way - how did you pay for your copy or did you get it in Italy?
>I paid for it using a credit card when I ordered it through Abe Books.
>The cost was dependant on the exchange rate that day.  But with shipping I
>paid about $100 for it.  And it did come from Italy

FWIW, I bought mine in July at the Pitti Palace (Florence, Italy)
about US$60. If you're there picking up the book, might as well dash
into the Gallerie di Costume & see EofT's gown up close. Actually, of
the 3 Medici outfits, Garzia's is most stunning.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Diana Habra]

> It does look very different from the portraits that we are used to from
> Bronzino.  The hairstyle is so tight to the head.  I just put it down to
> the
> difference in artist's eyes.  Also, I thought that the eyes of the girl
> did
> look much like those I'm familiar with.
>
> I can't wait to get my hands on a copy of this book.  It's on order and
> I'm
> waiting for them to send me the receipt to tell me how much to pay.  By
> the
> way - how did you pay for your copy or did you get it in Italy?  I'm going
> to England in two weeks and expect to get the Euro-check there.

Wanda,

I paid for it using a credit card when I ordered it through Abe Books. 
The cost was dependant on the exchange rate that day.  But with shipping I
paid about $100 for it.  And it did come from Italy

Hope that helps,

Diana

www.RenaissanceFabrics.net
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Re: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Dianne & Greg Stucki]

- Original Message - 
From: "Wanda Pease" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo


Pardon me if this looks patronizing.  It isn't. I am putting these down as 
I

try it out, hoping it works.  I should have done it this way in the first
place instead of plastering that ridiculous URL in my message (it was 
late -

hangs head)

Go to http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/index.html

go to Digital Collection
http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/fcgi-bin/db2www/browse.mac/category?selLang=E
nglish

Choose Paintings beside the search box. Then click Browse by Artist.  Go
down the list until you see Allori, Allesandro.  There are two pictures 
and

Eleonora is the lady in peacock blue with her hair very close to her head.
You can put in Allori in the Quick search box but that brings up a number 
of

works in other media that aren't necessarily relevant.>>


I found it easily by searching for "Eleanor".

Dianne

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RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Wanda Pease]

It does look very different from the portraits that we are used to from
Bronzino.  The hairstyle is so tight to the head.  I just put it down to the
difference in artist's eyes.  Also, I thought that the eyes of the girl did
look much like those I'm familiar with.

I can't wait to get my hands on a copy of this book.  It's on order and I'm
waiting for them to send me the receipt to tell me how much to pay.  By the
way - how did you pay for your copy or did you get it in Italy?  I'm going
to England in two weeks and expect to get the Euro-check there.

Wanda


>
> I agree that the portrait is beautiful but I don't think it is Eleonora of
> Toledo.
>
> Firstly it doesn't really look like her and secondly, the new book that I
> have entitled "Moda a Firenze 1540-1580: Lo stile di Eleonora di Toledo e
> la sua influenza" has this portrait listed as "Portrait of a Woman" by
> Alessandro Allori 1580-1590.  In a book about Eleonora of Toledo, I would
> think that if the portrait were really of her, this book would say so.  It
> is a lovely portait, though.
>
> And there are many other portraits that I hadn't seen before that are in
> the book I mention above.  It is very much worth the $100 for anyone who
> is passionate about Italian Renn clothing!
>
> Diana
>
> www.RenaissanceFabrics.net
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RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Diana Habra]

>
> http://www.hermitagemuseum.org
>
> click on English
> go to quick search and type in A.Alessandro, click on go
> scroll down to the paintings, click on "next 5-16 matches"
> click on "next 17 - 28 matches".
> scroll down to #25
> You probably have seen this. Someone has it on their website.
> Eleanor has a high collared cream dress with a light teal sleeveless
> overdress that has red and gold embroidery on it.
> I like this site as you can zoom in much better. Her dress is pleated
> w/red
> and green braid holding it in place w/matching pleated sleeves. Wonderful
> details.

I agree that the portrait is beautiful but I don't think it is Eleonora of
Toledo.

Firstly it doesn't really look like her and secondly, the new book that I
have entitled "Moda a Firenze 1540-1580: Lo stile di Eleonora di Toledo e
la sua influenza" has this portrait listed as "Portrait of a Woman" by
Alessandro Allori 1580-1590.  In a book about Eleonora of Toledo, I would
think that if the portrait were really of her, this book would say so.  It
is a lovely portait, though.

And there are many other portraits that I hadn't seen before that are in
the book I mention above.  It is very much worth the $100 for anyone who
is passionate about Italian Renn clothing!

Diana

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RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Wanda Pease]

Pardon me if this looks patronizing.  It isn't. I am putting these down as I
try it out, hoping it works.  I should have done it this way in the first
place instead of plastering that ridiculous URL in my message (it was late -
hangs head)

Go to http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/index.html

go to Digital Collection
http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/fcgi-bin/db2www/browse.mac/category?selLang=E
nglish

Choose Paintings beside the search box. Then click Browse by Artist.  Go
down the list until you see Allori, Allesandro.  There are two pictures and
Eleonora is the lady in peacock blue with her hair very close to her head.
You can put in Allori in the Quick search box but that brings up a number of
works in other media that aren't necessarily relevant.

Regina Romsey
OL, OP, Drachenwald/East, Now Proud Resident of the Laurel Kingdom of AnTir
and the Pacific NorthWet

> Wanda,
>
> Could you give us a "how to get there" instead?  I can't use the URL but
> if you said "go to the _ website and hit the  button, etc" I could
> navigate to it myself
>
> Thanks!
>
> Diana
>
>
> >

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RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[otsisto]

I'm not sure what happened but the number switched. It is now #22.

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RE: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[otsisto]

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org

click on English
go to quick search and type in A.Alessandro, click on go
scroll down to the paintings, click on "next 5-16 matches"
click on "next 17 - 28 matches".
scroll down to #25
You probably have seen this. Someone has it on their website.
Eleanor has a high collared cream dress with a light teal sleeveless
overdress that has red and gold embroidery on it.
I like this site as you can zoom in much better. Her dress is pleated w/red
and green braid holding it in place w/matching pleated sleeves. Wonderful
details.

De


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Re: [h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Diana Habra]

>
> Sorry for the cross post.
>
> I was looking for a copy of the Wedding at Cana by Allesandro Allori to
> look
> at Catherine de Medici's dress and found this instead.  Ever since I made
> my
> first "Eleonora" dress from Janet Arnold's book I have found her
> fascinating.  I know the above URL is ridiculously long but snipurl
> doesn't
> want anything to do with it.  It is a portrait of Eleonora in the
> Hermitage
> collection.  It is unlike any portrait of her that I've see, but Allori
> was
> a fosterling of Bronzino so he might have had some sittings.  The dress is
> fantastic!

Wanda,

Could you give us a "how to get there" instead?  I can't use the URL but
if you said "go to the _ website and hit the  button, etc" I could
navigate to it myself

Thanks!

Diana


>
>
> Wanda Pease/Regina Romsey
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> be attributed to simple social ineptness
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[h-cost] New to me Eleonora of Toledo

[Wanda Pease]

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/fcgi-bin/db2www/descrPage.mac/descrPage?selLa
ng=English&indexClass=PICTURE_EN&PID=GJ-1586&numView=1&ID_NUM=2&thumbFile=%2
Ftmplobs%2FK1NDGRTTW_23_23OF3QT6.jpg&embViewVer=last&comeFrom=quick&sorting=
no&thumbId=6&numResults=2&tmCond=Allori+Alessandro&searchIndex=TAGFILEN&auth
or=Allori%2C%26%2332%3BAlessandro

Sorry for the cross post.

I was looking for a copy of the Wedding at Cana by Allesandro Allori to look
at Catherine de Medici's dress and found this instead.  Ever since I made my
first "Eleonora" dress from Janet Arnold's book I have found her
fascinating.  I know the above URL is ridiculously long but snipurl doesn't
want anything to do with it.  It is a portrait of Eleonora in the Hermitage
collection.  It is unlike any portrait of her that I've see, but Allori was
a fosterling of Bronzino so he might have had some sittings.  The dress is
fantastic!


Wanda Pease/Regina Romsey
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be attributed to simple social ineptness

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[h-cost] New (to me) book

[J Schueller]

Hello  everyone.  I just picked up a new (to me) book at the library, 
and I thought others might be intrested in it as it seems to have a 
bunch of pictures and details of the pics. 


Private Lives in Renaissance Venice
by Patricia Fortini Brown
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0300102364/qid=1123095777/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-9440793-8383823?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

It is not my area, but it looks well packaged, so some of you might want 
to browse it if you find it in your local library.  



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