Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-14 Thread Joannah Hansen
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RE: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
I remember that whenever my husband and I tried to start something, the baby
would wake up, even though he/she was in the next room (and, yes, we were
being very quiet. ESP at work. Built in birth control.

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On the non-physical side, having a small child forever attatched to you
makes it difficult to get the chance to get pregnant.

Wendy


 --- On Wed 01/11, Robin Netherton < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:38:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Marc Carlson wrote:> I could have sworn
that back in anthropology 101 they taught us that> extended
breastfeeding was used to make a woman less likely to get> pregnant, not
that it stopped menstruation.It does both.Breastfeeding
temporarily stops ovulation, which in turn stopsmenstruation --
menstrual periods are a direct result of ovulation. Youdon't have
periods without ovulating.(It is possible to bleed without
ovulation; this is considered "abnormaluterine bleeding" and not
menstruation, and sometimes looks similar buttypically does not follow
the regular pattern of monthly periods.)(The monthly bleeds that
occur during cyclical hormone therapy or the useof oral contraception
look like periods, but they're not. They're enforcedbleeds created by
the adjustment of hormone dosage. They don't enter into this discussion,
in any case.)Breastfeeding doesn't always stop 
pregnancy, since when you startovulating and having periods again, you
ovulate first (before you've hadyour first period return). So you can
get pregnant before your periodscome back, and I know people who have
done so (oops). It's generallyadvised not to rely on the lack of periods
as absolute birth control; youcan be assured of a delay, often a long
one, but eventually you might hitit just as your ovaries get back in
action.--Robinmedical
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Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread Elizabeth Lear
According to advice from La Leche League (breastfeeding support and
promotion group), for breastfeeding to be really effective in holding
off your cycles, you need to be nursing during the night.  I
considered night-weaning my toddler because we wanted to start trying
for another, but I managed to get my cycle back after he cut back to
just one overnight nursing session.  My son night-weaned shortly
afterwards anyway, but had taken 19.5 months for me to become fertile
again.

And then I had just one period before becoming pregnant again. :)


...eliz, list admin and mom to a 2.5 yr old and a 7-week old

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Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread AnnBWass
 
In a message dated 1/11/2006 11:38:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

could  have sworn that back in anthropology 101 they taught us that 
extended  breastfeeding was used to make a woman less likely to get pregnant, 
not  that it stopped menstruation.




The two kind of go together, don't they?  However, when I was  researching 
various "behind closed doors" topics, I found that breast feeding  does delay 
onset of the cycle, and hence the possibility of  pregnancy.  Women were aware 
of this and sometimes used breast feeding  deliberately to delay pregnancy. 
However, my sources said that how  breast feeding delays onset of the cycle is 
not perfectly understood.
 
Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread Red Bear
One of the Dads on my Stay-at-home-Dads list is a big believer in the 
Family bed.  So the question did come up of how did you get the second 
and third child if you were all in the same bed?  Answer was that the 
family room had a large couch, and a lock on the door.


Stephen - who remembers fun before having kids.

Wendy wrote:


On the non-physical side, having a small child forever attatched to you makes 
it difficult to get the chance to get pregnant.

Wendy


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:38:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Marc Carlson wrote:> I could have sworn that back in anthropology 101 they taught us that> extended breastfeeding was used to make a woman less likely to get> pregnant, not that it stopped menstruation.It does both.Breastfeeding temporarily stops ovulation, which in turn stopsmenstruation -- menstrual periods are a direct result of ovulation. Youdon't have periods without ovulating.(It is possible to bleed without ovulation; this is considered "abnormaluterine bleeding" and not menstruation, and sometimes looks similar buttypically does not follow the regular pattern of monthly periods.)(The monthly bleeds that occur during cyclical hormone therapy or the useof oral contraception look like periods, but they're not. They're enforcedbleeds created by the adjustment of hormone dosage. They don't enter into this discussion, in any case.)Breastfeeding doesn't always stop 
pregnancy, since when you startovulating and having periods again, you ovulate first (before you've hadyour first period return). So you can get pregnant before your periodscome back, and I know people who have done so (oops). It's generallyadvised not to rely on the lack of periods as absolute birth control; youcan be assured of a delay, often a long one, but eventually you might hitit just as your ovaries get back in action.--Robinmedical editor___h-costume mailing listh-costume@mail.indra.comhttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume


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Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread Wendy

On the non-physical side, having a small child forever attatched to you makes 
it difficult to get the chance to get pregnant.

Wendy


 --- On Wed 01/11, Robin Netherton < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Robin Netherton [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:38:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Marc Carlson wrote:> I could have sworn that 
back in anthropology 101 they taught us that> extended breastfeeding was 
used to make a woman less likely to get> pregnant, not that it stopped 
menstruation.It does both.Breastfeeding temporarily stops 
ovulation, which in turn stopsmenstruation -- menstrual periods are a 
direct result of ovulation. Youdon't have periods without 
ovulating.(It is possible to bleed without ovulation; this is 
considered "abnormaluterine bleeding" and not menstruation, and sometimes 
looks similar buttypically does not follow the regular pattern of monthly 
periods.)(The monthly bleeds that occur during cyclical hormone therapy 
or the useof oral contraception look like periods, but they're not. They're 
enforcedbleeds created by the adjustment of hormone dosage. They don't 
enter into this discussion, in any case.)Breastfeeding doesn't 
always stop 
pregnancy, since when you startovulating and having periods again, you 
ovulate first (before you've hadyour first period return). So you can get 
pregnant before your periodscome back, and I know people who have done so 
(oops). It's generallyadvised not to rely on the lack of periods as 
absolute birth control; youcan be assured of a delay, often a long one, but 
eventually you might hitit just as your ovaries get back in 
action.--Robinmedical 
editor___h-costume 
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Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread Susan B. Farmer

Quoting Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Marc Carlson wrote:


I could have sworn that back in anthropology 101 they taught us that
extended breastfeeding was used to make a woman less likely to get
pregnant, not that it stopped menstruation.


It does both.

Breastfeeding temporarily stops ovulation, which in turn stops
menstruation -- menstrual periods are a direct result of ovulation. You
don't have periods without ovulating.



*snippage*



Breastfeeding doesn't always stop pregnancy, since when you start
ovulating and having periods again, you ovulate first (before you've had
your first period return). So you can get pregnant before your periods
come back, and I know people who have done so (oops). It's generally
advised not to rely on the lack of periods as absolute birth control; you
can be assured of a delay, often a long one, but eventually you might hit
it just as your ovaries get back in action.



Yeah.  I have a rather surprising number of friends who have childres 11
months apart.  They forgot the cardinal rule -- you ovulate *before*
that first period (generally) not afterwards!  My grandmother was so
irregular, she never knew when she was pregnant until she started
growing out of her clothes!

Susan
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Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread Robin Netherton

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Marc Carlson wrote:

> I could have sworn that back in anthropology 101 they taught us that
> extended breastfeeding was used to make a woman less likely to get
> pregnant, not that it stopped menstruation.

It does both.

Breastfeeding temporarily stops ovulation, which in turn stops
menstruation -- menstrual periods are a direct result of ovulation. You
don't have periods without ovulating.

(It is possible to bleed without ovulation; this is considered "abnormal
uterine bleeding" and not menstruation, and sometimes looks similar but
typically does not follow the regular pattern of monthly periods.)

(The monthly bleeds that occur during cyclical hormone therapy or the use
of oral contraception look like periods, but they're not. They're enforced
bleeds created by the adjustment of hormone dosage. They don't enter into 
this discussion, in any case.)

Breastfeeding doesn't always stop pregnancy, since when you start
ovulating and having periods again, you ovulate first (before you've had
your first period return). So you can get pregnant before your periods
come back, and I know people who have done so (oops). It's generally
advised not to rely on the lack of periods as absolute birth control; you
can be assured of a delay, often a long one, but eventually you might hit
it just as your ovaries get back in action.

--Robin
medical editor

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