Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
I dunno if anyone's mentioned it yet, but go look at every painting by Peter Breugel you can find. And you can find a lot! Just do a Google for images. In the paintings you can even see how things are cut, as he very often paints in the seams. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
On Friday 07 September 2007, Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: > Does anyone of you know any good sources (books or websites) on peasant and > lower-class clothing in the 16th or 17th century? All books say lots and > lots about court and aristocratic dresses, but no one obviously cares about > peasants. Le Poulet Gauche, a French reenactor site, has a page on lower class women's and one on lower class men's costume; here's the woman's page. You can also find this from Drea Leed's site: http://www.lepg.org/women.htm Jen Thompson's page on 16th c. lower class costume is good too, and the link from Drea's page to it is obsolete. You need to go here: http://www.festiveattyre.com/research/wkclass/portfolio.html -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available."-- Gregory Benford ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
>My favorite lower class/ peasant costuming website is >www.tudorgroup.co.uk >Lots of photos of the group in their handmade costumes. Really beautiful. >-Katie Oh, I recognise that face! Ruth Goodman of "Tales from the Green Valley" & "Tudor Feast at Christmas". BBC productions. Fascinating shows. I can only wish they were longer & more detailed. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
The author of this page, you'll notice, is the same Drea Leed whose book you'ere looking for. she's also on this list, though I haven't seen her name recently. Yes, she is very good for this stuff. For 17th century particularly, look at genre paintings buy Jan Steen and others. If you don't see a lot of difference between 1540 and 1670, it's safe to say peasant clothes didn't change much over that stretch of time. MaggiRos --- Zuzana Kraemerova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I have the Tudor tailor, it's currently the > best thing I could find, but still I'd like to find > something that goes more in detail (about > lower-class dresses) and also something about 17th > century (which might be quite a problem, maybe 18th > century would not be very different - concerning > peasants' dress???) > > Is this: > > http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/flemish-dress.html > > the text that is also in the book "The well dressed > peasant"? Or does the book contain more than is on > the website? > > Thanks, > > Zuzana > > > - > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > Vikings? What Vikings? We are but poor, simple farmers. The village was burning when we got here. Anon. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
Also directly from the authors at http://www.tudortailor.com MaggiRos --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'The Tudor Tailor' by Ninya Mikhaila has lots of > styles that are either working class or easily > adaptable to working class. I believe it is readily > available on Amazon: > http://www.amazon.com/Tudor-Tailor-reconstructing-sixteenth-century/dp/0896762556/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0545319-9158352?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189168104&sr=1-1 > > Karen > Seamstrix > > > > -- "zelda crusher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are both on Drea's website, there's more there > but I don't have time > to do it right now. I may have other sites, etc > bookmarked and will look > later if no one else sugggests them first. > > http://www.elizabethancostume.net/ > > http://www.extremecostuming.com/articles/secondhandclothes.html > > Laurie > > >From: Zuzana Kraemerova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: h-costume > >Subject: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th > century > >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:14:00 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Does anyone of you know any good sources (books or > websites) on peasant and > >lower-class clothing in the 16th or 17th century? > All books say lots and > >lots about court and aristocratic dresses, but no > one obviously cares about > >peasants. The only thing I could find seems to be > completely unavailable: > > > >Well-Dressed Peasant: 16th Century Flemish > Workingwomen's Dress Temp > >out of stock > >Drea Leed. Author describes her research into > various aspects of the > >garments, then details construction, including very > simple patterns. Tr pb, > > saddle-stapled, 76pp. Color covers & inside > covers, 4 color interior > >plates, numerous b/w photos of period art showing > working women's garments. > > Notes, pictography & bibliography, plus > appendices on making a bodice > >pattern, fabric sources. Costume & Dressmaker Press > > > >So do you know anything like this? Any hints will > be very useful to me:-) > > > > > >- > >Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out > tonight's top picks on Yahoo! > >TV. > >___ > >h-costume mailing list > >h-costume@mail.indra.com > >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool > activities at the Messenger > Café. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > _ > Click for free info on rehab treatments for drug > & alcohol dependency. > http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3nCeLIksk90f9TtzoN64HToJLKRV9qAyblCb7tn043NhpbTi/ > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > Vikings? What Vikings? We are but poor, simple farmers. The village was burning when we got here. Anon. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
My favorite lower class/ peasant costuming website is www.tudorgroup.co.uk . Lots of photos of the group in their handmade costumes. Really beautiful. -Katie On 9/7/07, Zuzana Kraemerova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone of you know any good sources (books or websites) on peasant > and lower-class clothing in the 16th or 17th century? All books say lots and > lots about court and aristocratic dresses, but no one obviously cares about > peasants. The only thing I could find seems to be completely unavailable: > > Well-Dressed Peasant: 16th Century Flemish Workingwomen's Dress – Temp > out of stock > Drea Leed. Author describes her research into various aspects of the > garments, then details construction, including very simple patterns. Tr > pb, saddle-stapled, 76pp. Color covers & inside covers, 4 color interior > plates, numerous b/w photos of period art showing working women's > garments. Notes, pictography & bibliography, plus appendices on making a > bodice pattern, fabric sources. Costume & Dressmaker Press > > So do you know anything like this? Any hints will be very useful to me:-) > > > - > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! > TV. > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/flemish-dress.html the text that is also in the book "The well dressed peasant"? Or does the book contain more than is on the website? I think the book and website text are the same. It includes the 'making of' pages with directions, too. It's been a few years since I've seen a copy, but I remember when I looked through it, that I didn't see anything obviously new. Paul Meekins' claims to have a copy for sale. http://www.paulmeekins.co.uk/cost/costindex.htm Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
Here's a better link for the Jan Steen and company. the Web Gallery of Art has a new address. http://www.wga.hu/ There's an index. Just look under S. MaggiRos Vikings? What Vikings? We are but poor, simple farmers. The village was burning when we got here. Anon. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
Yes, I have the Tudor tailor, it's currently the best thing I could find, but still I'd like to find something that goes more in detail (about lower-class dresses) and also something about 17th century (which might be quite a problem, maybe 18th century would not be very different - concerning peasants' dress???) Is this: http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/flemish-dress.html the text that is also in the book "The well dressed peasant"? Or does the book contain more than is on the website? Thanks, Zuzana - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re:[ h-cost]peasant clothing in the 16th/17th century
Zuzana wrote: >Does anyone of you know any good sources (books or websites) on peasant and lower-class clothing in the >16th or 17th century? All books say lots and lots about court and aristocratic dresses, but no one obviously >cares about peasants. http://www.12eyes.co.uk/stays/ordwomen.htm is a brief document prepared for the Sealed Knot in the UK (reenacting 1640s) __ Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
'The Tudor Tailor' by Ninya Mikhaila has lots of styles that are either working class or easily adaptable to working class. I believe it is readily available on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Tudor-Tailor-reconstructing-sixteenth-century/dp/0896762556/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0545319-9158352?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189168104&sr=1-1 Karen Seamstrix -- "zelda crusher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These are both on Drea's website, there's more there but I don't have time to do it right now. I may have other sites, etc bookmarked and will look later if no one else sugggests them first. http://www.elizabethancostume.net/ http://www.extremecostuming.com/articles/secondhandclothes.html Laurie >From: Zuzana Kraemerova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: h-costume >Subject: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:14:00 -0700 (PDT) > >Does anyone of you know any good sources (books or websites) on peasant and >lower-class clothing in the 16th or 17th century? All books say lots and >lots about court and aristocratic dresses, but no one obviously cares about >peasants. The only thing I could find seems to be completely unavailable: > >Well-Dressed Peasant: 16th Century Flemish Workingwomen's Dress Temp >out of stock >Drea Leed. Author describes her research into various aspects of the >garments, then details construction, including very simple patterns. Tr pb, > saddle-stapled, 76pp. Color covers & inside covers, 4 color interior >plates, numerous b/w photos of period art showing working women's garments. > Notes, pictography & bibliography, plus appendices on making a bodice >pattern, fabric sources. Costume & Dressmaker Press > >So do you know anything like this? Any hints will be very useful to me:-) > > >- >Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! >TV. >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Click for free info on rehab treatments for drug & alcohol dependency. http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3nCeLIksk90f9TtzoN64HToJLKRV9qAyblCb7tn043NhpbTi/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
I guess these archives were the only other thing i had bookmarked, altho the gallery of working women's clothing on Drea's site is often the inspiration for these costumes. http://festiveattyre.com/feature/index.htm Laurie These are both on Drea's website, there's more there but I don't have time to do it right now. I may have other sites, etc bookmarked and will look later if no one else sugggests them first. http://www.elizabethancostume.net/ http://www.extremecostuming.com/articles/secondhandclothes.html Laurie _ Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
These are both on Drea's website, there's more there but I don't have time to do it right now. I may have other sites, etc bookmarked and will look later if no one else sugggests them first. http://www.elizabethancostume.net/ http://www.extremecostuming.com/articles/secondhandclothes.html Laurie From: Zuzana Kraemerova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone of you know any good sources (books or websites) on peasant and lower-class clothing in the 16th or 17th century? All books say lots and lots about court and aristocratic dresses, but no one obviously cares about peasants. The only thing I could find seems to be completely unavailable: Well-Dressed Peasant: 16th Century Flemish Workingwomen's Dress Temp out of stock Drea Leed. Author describes her research into various aspects of the garments, then details construction, including very simple patterns. Tr pb, saddle-stapled, 76pp. Color covers & inside covers, 4 color interior plates, numerous b/w photos of period art showing working women's garments. Notes, pictography & bibliography, plus appendices on making a bodice pattern, fabric sources. Costume & Dressmaker Press So do you know anything like this? Any hints will be very useful to me:-) - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] peasant clothing in the 16th-17th century
At 09:14 07/09/2007, you wrote: Does anyone of you know any good sources (books or websites) on peasant and lower-class clothing in the 16th or 17th century? All books say lots and lots about court and aristocratic dresses, but no one obviously cares about peasants. The only thing I could find seems to be completely unavailable: Well-Dressed Peasant: 16th Century Flemish Workingwomen's Dress Temp out of stock Drea Leed. Author describes her research into various aspects of the garments, then details construction, including very simple patterns. Tr pb, saddle-stapled, 76pp. Color covers & inside covers, 4 color interior plates, numerous b/w photos of period art showing working women's garments. Notes, pictography & bibliography, plus appendices on making a bodice pattern, fabric sources. Costume & Dressmaker Press So do you know anything like this? Any hints will be very useful to me:-) Have you tried "The Tudor Tailor" ? http://www.tudortailor.com/ Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
