Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
nope, nore does it explain the silver lame Kelly - Original Message - From: "Suzi Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII Ms. Bonham Carter was pregnant in reality when she filmed Henry Vlll, hence the rather odd costume shape. Suzi Ahhh HA!( to quote a comercial on the local french network right now) Thanks for the insight, it explains a lot! Kelly Doesn't explain the Indian saree silks though, does it? Suzi I don't think I've ever seen it pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the actress's own shape (on the busty side)? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
No, it doesn't explain the Indian sari silks(well, Henry as a monarch, especially once ultra wealthy Wolsey crashed and burned, could import anything he wanted, even things that didn't exist at the time). It is all production values anyway and even in big budget Hollywood films, sets and costumes are just a small fraction of the budget. The main thing has always been to put what looks good onscreen to the majority of the audience viewing the drama, not historical accuracy. At least today's costumers aren't further limited by the old Hays code, just trying to keep some reasonable accuracy or any at all with the pressures of budget, the present aesthetic and whatever the director's vision is. I just kept waiting and wondering what went on during that rainy jousting scene. Did they plan to endanger humans and horses jousting in the rain, was it planned that way, or was the shooting schedule so tight that even when the English weather wasn't cooperating, they had to shoot rain and mud or not? Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
In a message dated 1/9/2006 2:15:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why on earth would they cast a woman who was that pregnant at the time of filming? Did they think no one would notice her odd shape? Sylrog * Well, she may not have been [or didn't tell anyone she was] pregnant when the contracts were signed. She may be involved with more than just acting in the show [like producing it or putting up money somehow]. And, yes, no one may a cared anyway. Welcome to the entertainment industry! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
In a message dated 1/9/2006 1:48:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesn't explain the Indian saree silks though, does it? LOL ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
Why on earth would they cast a woman who was that pregnant at the time of filming? Did they think no one would notice her odd shape? Sylrog On Jan 9, 2006, at 4:25 AM, kelly grant wrote: Ahhh HA!( to quote a comercial on the local french network right now) Thanks for the insight, it explains a lot! Kelly - Original Message - From: "Suzi Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII At 05:40 09/01/2006, you wrote: In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:32:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think I've ever seen it pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the actress's own shape (on the busty side)? Ms. Bonham Carter was pregnant in reality when she filmed Henry Vlll, hence the rather odd costume shape. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
Ms. Bonham Carter was pregnant in reality when she filmed Henry Vlll, hence the rather odd costume shape. Suzi Ahhh HA!( to quote a comercial on the local french network right now) Thanks for the insight, it explains a lot! Kelly Doesn't explain the Indian saree silks though, does it? Suzi I don't think I've ever seen it pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the actress's own shape (on the busty side)? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
Ahhh HA!( to quote a comercial on the local french network right now) Thanks for the insight, it explains a lot! Kelly - Original Message - From: "Suzi Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII At 05:40 09/01/2006, you wrote: In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:32:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think I've ever seen it pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the actress's own shape (on the busty side)? Ms. Bonham Carter was pregnant in reality when she filmed Henry Vlll, hence the rather odd costume shape. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
I had some serious issues with a lot of H Bohnam Carter's clothing in the episode I watched last night...What were those things on her head??? That and the shape of the dresses. The stays in this period would have been close to what she had on, but would have come in to her actual waist, while not chinching it. Her breasts totally disappeared in the bodices, they would have shown a bit, it looked like the bodices were biult for another actress who was much larger. The shape of the skirts also bothered me a bit...too linear, without any bell at all in some of them. But that's my opinion...take it for what it's worth Kelly - Original Message - From: "Sylvia Rognstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:31 AM Subject: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII I've just been watching the new Henry Viii on PBS with Helena Bonham Carter as Anne Boleyn. I noticed that all her dresses go straight down from bust to waist, not pinching in at the waist at all, and making her look somewhat pregnant when she's not. While I realize this era's silhouette is flat at the bustline, I don't think I've ever seen it pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the actress's own shape (on the busty side)? Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
At 05:40 09/01/2006, you wrote: In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:32:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think I've ever seen it pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the actress's own shape (on the busty side)? Ms. Bonham Carter was pregnant in reality when she filmed Henry Vlll, hence the rather odd costume shape. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
On Monday 09 January 2006 12:31 am, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: > I've just been watching the new Henry Viii on PBS with Helena Bonham > Carter as Anne Boleyn. I noticed that all her dresses go straight down > from bust to waist, not pinching in at the waist at all, and making > her look somewhat pregnant when she's not. While I realize this era's > silhouette is flat at the bustline, I don't think I've ever seen it > pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. > I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who > can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the > actress's own shape (on the busty side)? Is it possible that the *actress* was pregnant at the time of filming and the costume was deliberately cut to obscure that fact? I have no idea, I don't follow what goes on with actors, it was just a thought. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it."--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PBS Henry VIII
In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:32:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think I've ever seen it pooch out in front at the waist the way it does on Ms. Bonham Carter. I know there are a lot of English Renaissance experts on this list who can advise if this is correct or does it have something to do with the actress's own shape (on the busty side)? *** It doesn't do that in "Lady Jane", does it? Must be the cut of the dressunless she is pregnant [with Elizabeth?] :-P ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
