Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress ....yes there are white peacocks

2009-04-15 Thread Melody Watts
In Mansfield ,Oh. they have a large Mansion, that has become a public museum.
Around the  massive acerage they have a flock of pure ,white peacocks.
They are very beautiful and their feathers are impressive.
"So,yes Virginia ,there is a white peacock"
melody



--- On Mon, 4/13/09, Carol Kocian  wrote:


From: Carol Kocian 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress
To: "Historical Costume" 
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 7:12 PM



     I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they were 
bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and another part was 
pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They would have made quite an 
impressive dress, too.

>>  
>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut-aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-14 Thread Käthe Barrows
Many feathers are dyed or bleached.  Craft stores have dyed feathers by the
bag, in many bright, un-natural colors.  And we know we can get ostrich
feathers in un-natural colors.

What gave you the impression they were bleached?
>
> De
>
> -Original Message-
>  I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they
> were bleached. T
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Carol Kocian


 Now that I've looked at the albino peacocks, I definitely think  
my feathers were bleached. The albinos are pure white and the  
bleached feathers had a bit of color still on them.


 Also I saw a web page where they sold bleached peacock, as well  
as overdyed. The dyed are not bleached first, however the red ones  
are quite striking. I had some of those, too.


 I don't know if it's in Philadelphia any more, but I got mine  
at the S.A. Feather Company. It was also a great source for ostrich  
plumes of various colors and sizes. I used those more then anything  
for historic things. Sometimes they would have the end of a dye lot  
that were fairly cheap. They did custom dyeing, although of course  
they can be dyed at home, too.


 -Carol


On Apr 14, 2009, at 12:20 AM, otsisto wrote:


What gave you the impression they were bleached?

De

-Original Message-
  I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they
were bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and
another part was pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They
would have made quite an impressive dress, too.


 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut-
aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html



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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread otsisto
What gave you the impression they were bleached?

De

-Original Message-
  I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they  
were bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and  
another part was pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They  
would have made quite an impressive dress, too.

>>  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut- 
>> aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html


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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Sid Young
I'm being terrible...sorry. :)


Sidney

2009/4/14 Käthe Barrows 

> Yes there are.  I also have some white peacock feathers, pretty much the
> same colors as the ones of yours.  Google on "albino peacock".
>
> >
> >  I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they  were
> >> bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and  another part
> was
> >> pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They  would have made quite
> an
> >> impressive dress, too.
> >>
> >
> > There are white peacocks>
>
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Käthe Barrows
Yes there are.  I also have some white peacock feathers, pretty much the
same colors as the ones of yours.  Google on "albino peacock".

>
>  I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they  were
>> bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and  another part was
>> pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They  would have made quite an
>> impressive dress, too.
>>
>
> There are white peacocks>
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Sid Young
Maybe it was snowing ?

We don't get snow here :(



Sidney




On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Carmen Beaudry
wrote:

>
> From: "Carol Kocian" 
>
>> I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they  were
>> bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and  another part was
>> pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They  would have made quite an
>> impressive dress, too.
>>
>
> There are white peacocks>
>
> Melusine
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Carmen Beaudry


From: "Carol Kocian" 
 I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they  
were bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and  
another part was pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They  
would have made quite an impressive dress, too.


There are white peacocks>

Melusine
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Rickard, Patty
Probably hard to match because the colors aren't really pigments for the most 
part, but some very fancy light interference patterns. See:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vision/peacock.html

That said, I hate the bodice, too.

Patty


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 But as someone who has  worked
with peacock feathers on a MUCH smaller scale, I must say, they aren't as
easy to match as you might think.  
Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Carol Kocian


 I had some white peacock feathers at one time. I suspect they  
were bleached. The gold section was still metallic looking and  
another part was pinkish, with the rest being a cream color. They  
would have made quite an impressive dress, too.


 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut- 
aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html

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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Debloughcostumes
 
Was about to say the same thing...
 
It's Suzhou embroidery, though, an ancient Chinese technique which gives  
photographic like images, so I can see how you could make the mistake if 
you're  not aware of it.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 14/04/2009 02:15:16 GMT Standard Time,  
h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes:

It's not  a print, just had to clarify that- at the bottom of the
article ;) Brocade  and embroidery involved in it. I suspect the choice
of design has to to  with the symbolism of the flowers used.


 
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Sid Young
Definitely better than a dumpster ;)

I like the bodice... I had a friend who had knee length bridesmaids dresses
in a similar style and they were gorgeous.


Sidney


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, michaela de bruce <
michaela.de.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's not a print, just had to clarify that- at the bottom of the
> article ;) Brocade and embroidery involved in it. I suspect the choice
> of design has to to with the symbolism of the flowers used.
>
> I have though seen a gorgeous fabric made to look like it had peacock
> feathers sewn to it. Was a great mimic of the real deal right next to
> it ;)
> Michaela de Bruce
> http://glittersweet.com
>
> On 4/14/09, app...@aol.com  wrote:
> > The skirt is awesome, but I really hate the print bodice. They couldn't
> find something that actually matched the feathers?
> >
> >  Kathleen Norvell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> >  From: annbw...@aol.com
> >  To: h-cost...@indra.com
> >  Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 3:50 pm
> >  Subject: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress
> >
> >
> >
> >  My husband sent me this story and suggested I share it.
> >
> >
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut-aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html
> >
> >  Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread michaela de bruce
It's not a print, just had to clarify that- at the bottom of the
article ;) Brocade and embroidery involved in it. I suspect the choice
of design has to to with the symbolism of the flowers used.

I have though seen a gorgeous fabric made to look like it had peacock
feathers sewn to it. Was a great mimic of the real deal right next to
it ;)
Michaela de Bruce
http://glittersweet.com

On 4/14/09, app...@aol.com  wrote:
> The skirt is awesome, but I really hate the print bodice. They couldn't find 
> something that actually matched the feathers?
>
>  Kathleen Norvell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: annbw...@aol.com
>  To: h-cost...@indra.com
>  Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 3:50 pm
>  Subject: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress
>
>
>
>  My husband sent me this story and suggested I share it.
>
>  
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut-aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html
>
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread AnnBWass
 
In a message dated 4/13/2009 5:43:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
albert...@aol.com writes:

The  skirt is awesome, but I really hate the print  bodice




Well, I'm kind of lukewarm about it, too.  But as someone who has  worked 
with peacock feathers on a MUCH smaller scale, I must say, they aren't as  
easy to match as you might think.  The colors are really muted, and most  
"peacock" prints I've seen have much more vibrant colors that don't really  
coordinate, and the same goes for choosing one of the solid colors--so-called  
peacock blue, for instance, is much brighter than the colors in the real  
feathers (technically, actually, not feathers, but bracts).  So maybe that  
choice wasn't so bad, after all.
 
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Margo Anderson


On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:40 PM, albert...@aol.com wrote:


 Of course a dumpster covered in 2000 peacock feathers would be
awesome too.


Oh, Albert, I love you!  You always sum things up so perfectly.

Margo
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread Ann Catelli
The bodice looks like several of my bridesmaid dresses.
 
I somehow did and do Not believe that bridesmaids are dressed as the best ever.
 
An nin CT

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, albert...@aol.com  wrote:


app...@aol.com writes:

The skirt is awesome, but I really hate the print bodice



I agree. Of course a dumpster covered in 2000 peacock feathers would be  
awesome too. Or a Mac truck. Or anything! I'm impressed by the craftsmanship,  
but not by the design.


  
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 4/13/2009 4:02:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
app...@aol.com writes:

The skirt is awesome, but I really hate the print bodice
 




I agree. Of course a dumpster covered in 2000 peacock feathers would be  
awesome too. Or a Mac truck. Or anything! I'm impressed by the craftsmanship,  
but not by the design.
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Re: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress

2009-04-13 Thread appin1
The skirt is awesome, but I really hate the print bodice. They couldn't find 
something that actually matched the feathers?

Kathleen Norvell







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From: annbw...@aol.com
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Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 3:50 pm
Subject: [h-cost] Peacock Wedding Dress



My husband sent me this story and suggested I share it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1169646/Strut-aisle-1-5m-wedding-dress-2009-peacock-feathers.html

Ann Wass
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