Re: [h-cost] pourpoint pattern construction

2008-01-07 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Thanks for both the replies,  it was a definite help,  I'll try to do the 
fitting and basting on the body and when it won't help, I'll use the 2 inches 
rule:-)) When talking about it, the Charles de Blois garment has many pattern 
pieces, which of them would you sew together BEFORE fitting and quilting and 
which AFTER? The padded fabric will make bulky seams, so the more of them I'll 
avoid, the better. 



   
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RE: [h-cost] pourpoint pattern construction

2008-01-05 Thread Robin Netherton

Zuzana wrote:

 I'm going to make a pourpoint inspired by the Charles de Blois 
 pourpoint, fitted, but not as much as the extant garment, and of a 
 slightly thicker material and padding.

 I'm familiar with modern construction techniques and know some of the 
 period ones, but the problem is that I've never done a padded garment 
 before and I cannot imagine how much larger the pattern should be 
 according to the wearer's measurements. I've made a tight-fitting block 
 directly on the man and now my trouble is where and how much to 
 enlarge it. Shall I enlarge it only horizontally, or in both directions, 
 where more, where less. How big will be the bust difference between the 
 measurement and the actual garment?

 I cannot figure out how to do a block or a fitting with all the layers
 unstitched and I cannot afford to make a big mistake, as I'll probably 
 first cut out the pattern on all the layers, do the quilting and then do the 
 fitting.

The one time I made one of these, I decided to avoid quilting flat, because I 
had found that this causes bunching or wrinkling of the inner layers once I 
wrap the fabric around the person's torso. In the past, for a 16th c. 
structured bodice, I'd solved this problem by hand-quilting the layers in a 
curved shape, pinned around a cylindrical trash can whose measurements were not 
too far off the person's torso. In that case, I fitted the inner layer first, 
and I didn't trim down the outer layer till the quilting was done, so I didn't 
have to worry about exactly where to trim.

For the pourpoint, which covered a larger area and a more complicated shape, I 
did much the same, but directly around the person's body. I sewed a linen 
lining first, to fit properly on the man. Then he stood with the lining on, and 
I laid cotton padding in layers over his body. One advantage of this is that we 
could layer the padding more thickly in some areas to compensate for imbalances 
(one side of his chest was much smaller than the other) and also to make the 
top more padded than the hips. I carefully basted the layers in place on the 
body. He was very patient! Then I laid a layer of linen over all, cut roughly 
to size, made sure we liked how it looked, and basted that on top. I took it 
off him and quilted everything properly, holding the fabric in a body-shaped 
curve (which was easy since the basting kept the layers in place in that 
shape). I then upholstered the final outer layer (linen or silk, I have 
forgotten) over the top, with a more decorative stitching through all the 
layers. 

I left a large seam allowance on the outer layer only. At the armholes, this 
served as a place to attach the sleeves, which I worked out and assembled 
separately after the body was done. On the neckline, hem, and front opening, I 
turned the outer-layer allowance over the raw edges of the quilted sections, 
trimmed it evenly and sewed it down, and covered the raw edge of the turndown 
with a strip of silk binding.

I may have some details wrong on the above, as it has been more than a decade 
since I made this. The man involved is in the SCA; those of you in Northshield 
may remember this as a bright blue pourpoint that Valerius wore starting in 
1996. (There was a silk brocaded short houppelande in black and gold and red he 
wore over it.) Just a few months ago I saw the entire outfit again for the 
first time since I made it, so I'm remembering some details, but I would have 
to examine it closely again to remember all.

--Robin


I have no idea if this is a period practice or not, but it worked.





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