Re: [Haifux] Student complaints.

2009-02-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: [Haifux] Student 
complaints.:
  CAD/CAM for linux: http://www.haifux.org/lectures/159/
 Orr, there is nothing that even comes close to competing withSolidworks. 
 Moving students from Solidworks to anything that runs onLinux would be like 
 removing MS Office and giving them Ed.

I want to be clear on one thing - everything I said I said under the
assumption is that we're talking about students whose goal is to learn
*software development* - programming, operating systems, and so on.
For these students, I explained why I believe that Linux is a great
educational device, and also a very useful and practical tool.

I never said that people for whom the main use of a computer is to run
a specific engineering tool available only for Windows will benefit from
Linux, any more than a doctor will benefit if the computer he types patient
records on will be switched from Windows with doctor-specific software, to
Linux with Emacs.

Sure, even students whose main needs are programming have secondary needs
like viewing movies (of lectures? really? :-)), reading Internet sites,
and writing documents, and these needs should be met, and there is no reason
for Linux not to be able to. But students that have a completely different
main need? Students whose basic premise is that only one specific Windows-only
software can meet that need? Well, sorry, Linux is not for you.

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Re: [Haifux] Bookcrossing tomorrow

2009-02-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/2/1 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com:
 I intend to bring some books to Haifux tomorrow (Tim Lord's lecture on /.,
 reminder). Some Kilograms of fantasy. Ready for the taker (pay it forward
 style)


Thank you Orna! I will be enjoying Dune as soon as this semester ends!
Whoever wants it next can contact me.

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[Haifux] The Higher Education Need Education on Linux?

2009-02-03 Thread Eran Arbel
I've read this thing on Slashdot:
http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F29%2F0819207from=rss
This is about the third or fourth time it's come up, a story of a texan
teacher who was so ignorant of the non-Microsfot world she thought that
everything not Microsfot made was criminal.
If you haven't read it yet, I urge you and if you have, what are your
thoughts on the matter?
And from the people higher then me on the food chain (probably everybody
here) what is the situation in the Technion/Haifa U? Are many people in the
know? Are many people completely against?
I see some labs here that run Linux, some that run only Linux and some that
oppose it.
Frankly, where I work, besides the windows-only specific environments,
people don't take transition to FOSS lightly.

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Re: [Haifux] The Higher Education Need Education on Linux?

2009-02-03 Thread Eli Billauer

Hello,


Did you attend attend Cathy Malmrose's lecture about Linux Hardware?

http://www.haifux.org/lectures/202/


I suppose not, because we had a discussion about culture differences 
between the US and Israel. To make a long story short: Many of them see 
a computer as a package you're not allowed to open (and the warranty 
void sticker helps with that).



So while some people consider Linux as yuck and others like it, and most 
normal people haven't heard about it, at least I don't believe you'll 
find someone thinking that installing free software on your computer is 
illegal. Or maybe the question is if anyone here cares about it at all.



  Eli


Eran Arbel wrote:

I've read this thing on Slashdot: 
http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F29%2F0819207from=rss 
http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F29%2F0819207from=rss
This is about the third or fourth time it's come up, a story of a 
texan teacher who was so ignorant of the non-Microsfot world she 
thought that everything not Microsfot made was criminal.
If you haven't read it yet, I urge you and if you have, what are your 
thoughts on the matter?
And from the people higher then me on the food chain (probably 
everybody here) what is the situation in the Technion/Haifa U? Are 
many people in the know? Are many people completely against?
I see some labs here that run Linux, some that run only Linux and some 
that oppose it.
Frankly, where I work, besides the windows-only specific environments, 
people don't take transition to FOSS lightly.


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Re: [Haifux] Linux + Hebrew?

2009-02-03 Thread Eran Arbel
I'd like to agree with both. Hebrew is my native tongue and Israel is my
native land. A lot of people fought for both of them and I think it's
important to speak this language in this place. I'm also annoyed about the
personal e-mails to course mailing lists which are written in an almost
unintelligible combination of Engrish and Hebrish, but that is another
thing.

I also think that English is not stressed enough as an important thing here
in the Technion. Although Mathematics is the only completely universal
language, English is the language of commerce and the language of science
and those who presume to be scientists should know it top to bottom, back
and forth, up side down and during the witching hour. So students should
also be exposed to a lot of English, like during highly science laden
presentations or documents.

It actually saddens me every week a new that the people in my SF in Cinema
course complain that there are no subtitles and they even complain more if
the subtitles are in English.

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Re: [Haifux] Student complaints.

2009-02-03 Thread Oron Peled
On Tuesday, 3 בFebruary 2009, Amichai Rotman wrote:
 I had the same problem when I tried to play content broadcasted by CastUP (a
 popular streaming provider).

I encountered two unrelated problems with video streamed from web-sites:

1. Codecs. Easily solved by VLC. I've yet to see a codec
   unsupported by it.
   Note that some distros (e.g: Fedora) do not distribute these by
   default due to specific legal problems (US patents on algorithms).
   In less bizarre countries this is easily solvable by installing
   the missing pieces from non-US repositories (e.g: rpmfusion.org
   for Fedora).
   Me (non-lawyer) thinks that Israel has no software patents yet
   so this should be safe (Naive? Don't know).

2. Web sites trying to obfuscate the links from their page to the
   video stream so people would have to see it interactively instead
   of (e.g) reaping it to their computer/mp4-player/other-device for
   off-line viewing at their own leisure.

   This can usually worked around using Mazrim by Ilan Shavit:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mazrim/

Cheers,

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