Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2010 09:15, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010, Eli Billauer wrote about Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?: Please keep in mind that the only dedicated staff in any lecture, is the speaker himself (or herself). Arriving at a lecture expecting that everything has been fixed by just somebody is a bit of a gambling. While I agree that nobody owes anybody anything, I don't think this is a valid attitude. You have to remember that even if nobody is in charge of haifux, the lecturer often hasn't got any clue on any of the details. Just as an example, when I gave my Hspell presentation a couple of months ago, I had a few moments of worry. First, the fascists at the gate didn't let me in - apparently they didn't get the fax that was suppsosed to have been sent by someone in Haifux. After 10 minutes of arguments, and help from a chaver telefoni (Orna), they let me in. I usually arrange the entrance to the Technion. Going through the fine archives, I see that nobody requested ahead of time to arrange entrance. I will try to contact lecturers from now on, to ask if they need entrance to the Technion. Thanks for letting me know that this may be a problem. That projector isn't exactly national security... What would it hurt to duplicate the key and give it to many Haifux regulars? How difficult is it to have a smoother car-permit process? Blaming the presenters on not taking care of these things is a bit silly, I think. I think that the process is as smooth as it can be: just let me know. However, if it is not known that I should be contacted, that is a problem! Additionally, there is no place to store such a duplicate key for the projector. There are no regulars. The key is not mine to duplicate. To get the key I went to Bracha Cohen, in charge of teaching in the faculty, and signed a consent form, in which I promise to uphold CS faculty regulations. Since I am not a TA in the faculty, she did me a favor by letting me have the key at all. Duplicating the key would be a breach of trust. I remind you all that before that, we did not have a key at all for years, since both Orr and Alon Altman graduated. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Moving Dotan's lecture
Shalom Ram, Thank you for your concern. However, *Dotan's talk is about the desktop, SYSTOR is about systems and storage. *There is no time overlap (the poster session should last about an hour). *No other voices were heard so far. *We try to avoid schedule changes, especially of close-future lectures (not to mess with speakers' schedules, and allow people time to get organized to attend lectures), so that those who plan in advance to come to a certain talk are able to do so. Therefore, an announcement about Dotan's talk will soon follow. Thanks, Orna. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 May 2010 16:38, cool-RR cool...@cool-rr.com wrote: Hey all, I just noticed that Dotan's lecture is on the same day as IBM's SYSTOR: https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/conferences/systor2010/program.shtml I planned to attend both. SYSTOR is 3 days, and according to the official schedule the first day should end before 18:30. But conferences often run late, and in any case it will be tiring to go to two events the same day. Will Dotan and the people here be interested in postponing the lecture to next week? If not, I'll understand. I should have noticed this clash with SYSTOR weeks ago and told you then, sorry. Ram. I have no problem moving the lecture if others want to. I'll let the community decide. Will many people be at SYSTOR? Note that if it is moved it will likely be a two-week postponement, that is until the next Haifux meeting. That would either postpone Asaf's lecture, or postpone my own a month. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
[Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] KDE 4 - The Good, The Bad, and The Broken - Dotan Cohen
On Monday (TOMORROW), May 24th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear Dotan Cohen discuss: KDE 4 - the good, the bad, and the broken Abstract KDE was developed to give Unix applications a common look and feel. From 1996 to 2007 the desktop environment saw many improvements and changes. In January 2008 a rewrite of the entire desktop environment and many of it's core applications was performed. The rewrite, called KDE 4, led to a dramatic change in KDE's stance. Once noted for its configurablity, KDE 4 had significantly fewer options than previous KDE versions. Core applications and the desktop environment itself were missing critical features. Crashes were common. One year later KDE 4.2 was introduced, promising to address all these issues. Additionally, several innovative technologies were introduced then. In this talk we will examine KDE 4.4 and concentrate on one innovative feature (the Good), one questionable design decision (the Bad), and one critical bug (the Broken). == Future talks include: 07/06/10 The Ben Yehuda Project Software - Asaf Bartov 21/06/10 A GAP TO BE FILLED! 05/07/10 GarlicSim: An experimental tool for computer simulations - Ram Rachum 13/09/10 Secure File Systems: Orr Dunkelman (The gap between the lectures is intended for YOU to lecture about something interesting!) === We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see: http://www.haifux.org/where.html Attendance is free, and you are all invited! -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?
Hello all, I hoped that this thread would die out sooner or later, but I realize that people have a lot on their minds. To the plain user, the critical difference between free software and the one you pay for, is that you don't have a number to call when something goes wrong. I know, there are companies offering support. But the classic model was that users looked for the solutions by themselves, and most of us still work that way. The argument always was, that searching for the answer on the web will take more or less the same time as explaining the problem to some tech support person, only the web is more likely to help you. And that even though free software isn't managed centrally, it evolves to become better than software developed by an organized team. And it just so happens that Haifux is running like a free software project. I'm not saying that everything's been 100% all the time, but somehow this system got Haifux a vast variety of lectures and glitches comparable with organized events. The issue about this last event is not where Orna or I were. The question is why the system failed. My personal impression is that the reason was more like people expecting a customer support. Had there been some good-old Nobody solved the problem, so I'll solve it spirit around, we wouldn't have an incident to discuss at all. What really worries me is not lecture organizations. I'm sure everyone is informed enough by now, so this will not happen again. What worries me, is that as recent Linux distros talk to us in terms of Windows (lean back, the system now fixes your problem, don't ask me what I'm doing) that kind of spirit takes over the way we think. And if that's where we going, we will all be served by companies we depend on sooner or later, and it won't matter anymore whether the software is free or not, because we will be hostages to our supported distro providers. Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] KDE 4 - The Good, The Bad, and The Broken - Dotan Cohen
Hi Raz It is the other way round - it is the Ben-Yehuda Project's software. The Project's home page: http://benyehuda.org/ The talk will deal with software written especially for the needs of this project, for which no available software existed (not even closed source). All this software is free or will be released soon. Orna On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Raz razi...@gmail.com wrote: what is the Ben Yehuda software project ? 2010/5/23 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com: On Monday (TOMORROW), May 24th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear Dotan Cohen discuss: KDE 4 - the good, the bad, and the broken Abstract KDE was developed to give Unix applications a common look and feel. From 1996 to 2007 the desktop environment saw many improvements and changes. In January 2008 a rewrite of the entire desktop environment and many of it's core applications was performed. The rewrite, called KDE 4, led to a dramatic change in KDE's stance. Once noted for its configurablity, KDE 4 had significantly fewer options than previous KDE versions. Core applications and the desktop environment itself were missing critical features. Crashes were common. One year later KDE 4.2 was introduced, promising to address all these issues. Additionally, several innovative technologies were introduced then. In this talk we will examine KDE 4.4 and concentrate on one innovative feature (the Good), one questionable design decision (the Bad), and one critical bug (the Broken). == Future talks include: 07/06/10 The Ben Yehuda Project Software - Asaf Bartov 21/06/10 A GAP TO BE FILLED! 05/07/10 GarlicSim: An experimental tool for computer simulations - Ram Rachum 13/09/10 Secure File Systems: Orr Dunkelman (The gap between the lectures is intended for YOU to lecture about something interesting!) === We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see: http://www.haifux.org/where.html Attendance is free, and you are all invited! -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Linux-il mailing list linux...@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
