Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course
Hi, There are video courses for MCITP which would cost you a lot less and you can learn at home at your free time. Those MCITP certificates aren't worth anything anyway - when someone wants to hire you, he would like to check your experience, not your certificates. Hetz 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Course on Linux can be a gift to me, if I sign up computer technician course. amichay בתאריך 20 בפברואר 2011 09:36, מאת Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com: I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux courses. Kaplan 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list linux...@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list linux...@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course
If you take the CS programming courses up front (the programming ones, not the math ones) and get a good grade then you will have a good chance at getting a student position at some high tech company for around 50-60nis/hour instead of the minimum wage you will get from being a computer technician. And those courses are really not that hard. It's the math courses that are hard. Dave. 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Course on Linux can be a gift to me, if I sign up computer technician course. amichay בתאריך 20 בפברואר 2011 09:36, מאת Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com: I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux courses. Kaplan 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list linux...@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course
If you take the CS theory courses up front (the math/theory ones, not the programming ones) and get a good grade then you will have a good chance at getting a degree at a leading university, which will allow you to later work as an engineer at some high tech company for around 100 nis/hour (first year) instead of the 50/60 wage you will get from being just in a student jobs. And those courses are really not that hard. It's the programming courses that are hard. Orr. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Dave Roi david...@gmail.com wrote: If you take the CS programming courses up front (the programming ones, not the math ones) and get a good grade then you will have a good chance at getting a student position at some high tech company for around 50-60nis/hour instead of the minimum wage you will get from being a computer technician. And those courses are really not that hard. It's the math courses that are hard. Dave. 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Course on Linux can be a gift to me, if I sign up computer technician course. amichay בתאריך 20 בפברואר 2011 09:36, מאת Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com: I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux courses. Kaplan 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list linux...@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course
Sorry for misleading - by free for all I meant it does not perform a selection process upon entrance. It is not the getting in that is hard - it is the graduation that is hard - having the self discipline to finis all courses (which is why I think highly of their graduates). Another good point of the openU is that soldiers can do that on their free time (or even get some time off from the army to go to their courses, especially if you are in a computer-oriented service). It is especially good for someone who is used to home-schooling. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Orr Dunkelman orr.dunkel...@gmail.comwrote: Please note that the OpenU charges per-course, so it is not that free (actually, you can buy the books for a fraction of the course's price, but then you do not have access to their support, teaching, etc., and most importantly - you cannot take the exam and collect credits). On a different note, also HaifaU has programs for good students (Etgar). Cheers, On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com wrote: How about starting your CS BSc instead? The open U is free for all, even if you do not have the bagrut yet, and the Technion has special programs for good students - some start at 16 or earlier. 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list linux...@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course
On Sunday, 20 בFebruary 2011 09:47:49 amichay p. k. wrote: I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Unless you practice this stuff *during* the army service, it would be gone by the time you finish army: - You'll forget most of it. - A lot of the material would be obsolete (we are talking about technician level hands-on type of knowledge). So a very focused and expensive training at this stage is investing a lot of resource with verry little benefit (unless you somehow practise this knowledge during army service) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
