Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course

[eliran gonen]

These certifications by themselves are only an advantage if you plan
to work as technical support/helpdesk when you are done with the army.
That is to say, you won't _learn_ much from the courses themselves,
real-workplaces environment is entirely different than what is
required for you to memorize to pass these tests and does not imply
any explicit knowledge dealing with complex computer networking. The
level of these courses is way beneath what is really important for a
techie-person to know. Real knowledge is experience and you tinkering
with stuff on your own free time, developing a sense for what's really
going on behind things. These can show up in formal interviews not the
ones you usually get to through human-resources.


2011/2/20 amichay p. k. :
> I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a
> useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military
> service.
>
> In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician,
> and to finance my studies in CS
>
> Course on Linux can be a gift to me, if I sign up computer technician
> course.
>
> amichay
>
> בתאריך 20 בפברואר 2011 09:36, מאת Lior Kaplan :
>>
>> I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux
>> courses.
>>
>> Kaplan
>>
>> 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. 
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I consider these days to start learning computer technician course.
>>> This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course.
>>> Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft
>>> and LPIC 1 + 2 exams.
>>> The price is 11,700, including everything.
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea whether I should study the course?
>>> You know what the price range for similar courses?
>>> Any advice?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Amichay
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Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course

[Greg Pendler]

Great manifesto. I can second every word. Studying is your and everyone else's 
way to succeed, but not all studying options were born equal- choose wisely. As 
someone interviewing people I can say that university degree makes a big 
difference while different courses are probably doing the opposite. 

Good luck 
Greg



On Feb 21, 2011, at 15:48, Michael Vasiliev  wrote:

> On 02/20/2011 09:23 AM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote:
>> 
>> How about starting your CS BSc instead? The open U is free for all, even if 
>> you do not have the bagrut yet, and the Technion has special programs for 
>> good students - some start at 16 or earlier.
> I'm replying to this reply, since I did not get the original letter (ugh, 
> again!), and can't figure out whose mail server is to blame.
> 
> Even though more than good 13 years passed since I was in that exact 
> situation, I'd like to share some insights, based on nothing else but actual 
> experience. Let's say you are, like I was, a young hacker in his teen years 
> looking for a job. You have some computer, network, linux, and programming 
> knowledge, and lacking relevant experience, you're looking into persuading 
> the employer in your abilities. You are, like all people have a resource, 
> time, which you want to invest wisely.
> 
> First of all, if you think that a prospective employer would take a teen off 
> the street, with or without courses and let him manage expensive equipment 
> and business-critical data, you're so wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. I cannot 
> emphasize it any further. Unlest that employer is your close relative, the 
> best you're looking at is laying LAN cable or assembling computers from 
> parts, both below minimum wage (sic!). The kind of jobs you have the lowest 
> chance to make a mistake at, from the employer's view. Delegate-able, 
> mundane, tiring, minimal possible loss jobs. Worst part of it, these are also 
> available right now, without any courses. Nowadays, every business is an 
> information business, and were IT business a Zen monastery, that's the kind 
> of jobs you were doing in your first year. Except that in Zen monastery, you 
> get to learn later on, and here you're not. Every job you can get, you can 
> continue doing for the rest of your life, because there's no shortage of the 
> same dull tasks, and every single one of these jobs is both a career dead-end 
> and a constant insult to your intelligence.
> 
> Let's talk courses now. These credit-less courses are on the level of 
> advanced OS user at best, the programming ones are on the level of novice 
> programmer, it's nothing you don't know already. They're thriving since the 
> days of the hi-tech bubble, and only during these crazy days they were 
> somewhat effective. Back then, with the shortage of hands and abundance of 
> shareholder's money, you could actually get a position doing absolutely 
> nothing of value whatsoever. All course graduates hired back then found 
> themselves unemployed when the bubble burst. But people still try the "easy 
> way to high-tech salary". Isn't that the all-around marketing slogan? That's 
> how it will be: the course will be filled with naive people who don't know 
> two bits about computers and want to switch from another field, unrelated to 
> exact sciences. By offering yourself as a lowest bidder in terms of knowledge 
> you'll get, on these courses you'll be taught by (surprise!) -- a 
> lowest-bidder lecturer, which is at best a university or college student or 
> dropout, an unlucky jobless teacher, or, in vast majority of cases, a 
> "graduate" of the very same courses on minimum wage. I was both the "student" 
> and "lecturer" in similar circumstances, and I feel bad for doing both. The 
> kind of nasty feeling if you have personal ethics for your vertebrae column 
> and know that despite your best efforts, you're doing a half-arsed job. 
> Pardon the wording.
> This budget you describe can pay tuition fees for one year of proper, regular 
> CS university courses or a university preparatory program you could use to 
> improve your school grades. Or you can study for a psychometric exam (best of 
> such study is, surprisingly, not a course, but gathering course books of all 
> your friends and sitting on your butt solving them with pencil, eraser and 
> stopwatch in the privacy and comfort of your own home, which is another 
> lesson I've learned the hard way). Time and budget permitting, try to get 
> into excellent student program in your school, that will get you university 
> courses for a credit to use later. Try to get the best grades you can while 
> still IN SCHOOL, or improve the one you already have.
> 
> To summarize: I've been on that very road, and I cannot say anything but 
> "don't waste your time taking such courses". It's nothing but ripoff and a 
> complete waste of your precious time. Please, I'm begging you. I 
> wholeheartedly wish someone persuaded me otherwise back then. Make your 
> decis

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] UniversAAL - Open Source platform for Ambient Assisted Living and Smart Home Environment - Vadim Eisenberg

[emild]

Hi,

There is a minor (I guess spell-checker induced, but really funny IMO) typo in
your abstract.

s/deceases/diseases/

Or maybe I got it wrong ;-)

  Emil


  


Quoting Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda :

> On Monday, February 28th (TODAY) at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear Vadim
> Eisenberg talk about
> 
>  UniversAAL - Open Source platform for Ambient Assisted Living and Smart
> Home Environment 
> 
> Abstract
> 
> I will present two presentations about an EU FP7 IP project I work on,
> UniversAAL - http://universaal.org/. The goal of the project is to develop
> an open source platform for Ambient Assisted Living (AAL). Ambient Assisted
> Living is a kind of Smart Home environment for elderly people - for example,
> a house equipped with different sensors and in which different devices,
> sensors and home appliances are networked together and managed by software
> applications. In addition, the platform could be used for monitoring of
> chronic deceases, providing healthcare services at home, supporting people
> with disabilities. I will present the project and will talk about
> technologies involved in the project: OSGi, Middleware, (Semantic) SOA,
> Security, Android, Living Labs.
> 
> 
> About me: I work in IBM, IT for Healthcare & Life Sciences group, and do my
> M.Sc. studies at the Technion, Computer Science Department. My research
> interests are Semantic Web, Software Engineering and Programming Languages.
> I made my first Open Source contribution two months ago -
> http://d2rqupdate.cs.technion.ac.il/, Apache 2.0 license (on my personal
> time, it is not related to IBM). I developed D2RQ/Update and D2R
> Server/Update prototype extensions to a popular RDF-to-RDB mapping platform
> - D2RQ http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/bizer/d2rq/ (it is related to
> Semantic Web technologies).
> 
> 
> 
> We meet in Taub (CS Faculty) building, room 6. For instructions see:
> http://www.haifux.org/where.html
> 
> Attendance is free, and you are all invited!
> 
>  
> 
> Future Haifux talks include:
> 14/3/2011  The story of Alice and Bob - the I/O requests by guy keren
> (part i)
> 28/3/2011  The story of Alice and Bob - the I/O requests by guy keren (part
> ii)
> 
> 
> 
> We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to
> give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux might be
> interested in, please contact us at webmas...@haifux.org
> 
> 
>  --
> Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda.
> http://ladypine.org
> 


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