Re: [Hampshire] Netbook excitement

2008-10-19 Thread Damian Brasher
Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote:
> So far, I'm very happy with my purchase, so I offer this as a
> possible alternative approach.
>

And why not? IBM TP's are great and have a good track record. With my
sys-admin hat on I wouldn't buy these for all my staff, unless they really
wanted one. These machines are good for home or small office use where
power consumption is an issue and my wife happily picked it up while
watching TV and surfed.

We don't know how reliable they are long term, they are not the solution
for GUI desktop power users, for me at home and in my home office it's
pretty well spot on. The Acer does not feel fragile to me, but I know
where you are coming from.

For work I definitely need my Dell workhorse for reliability, power, disk
space and so on and would not use anything else, at home a low power PC in
every other room is ideal.

For serious work they have their place already I think.

Damian
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Re: [Hampshire] Netbook excitement

2008-10-19 Thread Chris. Aubrey-Smith
Yeah, like I said:

So far, I'm very happy with my purchase, so I offer this as a
possible alternative approach.

Chris.

On 19/10/2008, Keith Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:23:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
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> > I evaluated all of the new sub-notebooks on offer, (and was fed a load of
> > nonsense by sales staff in the process,) before concluding that I was not
> > impressed by any of them.
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, it's horses for courses. Like Damian,
> I bought an Acer Aspire One, and I think it's great - but I wouldn't use
> it as my only computing platform. I do, however, use it more than I
> thought I would (I often use it for sofa surfing instead of my bigger,
> heavier Thinkpad).
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Re: [Hampshire] Netbook excitement

2008-10-19 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:23:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

> I evaluated all of the new sub-notebooks on offer, (and was fed a load of
> nonsense by sales staff in the process,) before concluding that I was not
> impressed by any of them.

At the risk of stating the obvious, it's horses for courses. Like Damian,
I bought an Acer Aspire One, and I think it's great - but I wouldn't use
it as my only computing platform. I do, however, use it more than I
thought I would (I often use it for sofa surfing instead of my bigger,
heavier Thinkpad).

Keith

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Re: [Hampshire] Netbook excitement

2008-10-19 Thread Chris. Aubrey-Smith
I  had decided a while ago that I wanted a small, portable machine for
mobile e-mail and the like.

I evaluated all of the new sub-notebooks on offer, (and was fed a load of
nonsense by sales staff in the process,) before concluding that I was not
impressed by any of them. They all seemed so restricted and fragile that I
decided against buying one.

Instead, I bought a second-hand (refurbished) ThinkPad X30, which is heavier
but is a very solid 'real' computer with a decent screen and keyboard. It
also cost me rather less than I had set aside for the purchase.

I'm about to scrape XP off the disc and throw it away, before installing
Etch. (A well-trodden path, as a quick web search reveals, so there's plenty
of reassurance there!)

So far, I'm very happy with my purchase, so I offer this as a
possible alternative approach.

Chris




On 19/10/2008, Sean Gibbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Damian Brasher wrote:
> > Including a quiet fan hack, the only fault as far as I'm concerned. A
> > battery upgrade will be made available from Acer (almost certainly from
> > 3rd party dealers) and will take the battery life from about 2 to 4 hours
> > I believe. There is a Screenshot of Ubuntu Netbook Re-mix at the top of
> > the page. I was over at a friends house Friday as he installed Ubuntu on
> > his Asus EEE. Impressively smooth MS XP preparation tool and simple with
> a
> > 4G data-stick but I'll stick to Linpus as I'm a Fedora fan, really like
> > XFCE and all the hardware functions are implemented.
>
> Hi Damian,
>
> I looked into swapping Linpus out for Ubuntu on my son's Acer One and
> really couldn't see what the benefits were given that Linpus has been
> designed to work with the Acer One and that the Ubuntu build is far from
> complete or perfect in that regard.
>
> Once you enable the xfce menu from right-click on the desktop Linpus is
> as versatile as Ubuntu IMHO. I did put the latest version of Opera on it
> and that's quite nice, especially since I have added that in to the xfce
> menu to make it a little more accessible - I haven't discovered how to
> hack the main menu yet.
>
> The main thing is that Sammy is very pleased with it and it certainly
> gets some use. I'd love one but really can't justify the expense!
>
> Sean
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Re: [Hampshire] Netbook excitement

2008-10-19 Thread Sean Gibbins
Damian Brasher wrote:
> Including a quiet fan hack, the only fault as far as I'm concerned. A
> battery upgrade will be made available from Acer (almost certainly from
> 3rd party dealers) and will take the battery life from about 2 to 4 hours
> I believe. There is a Screenshot of Ubuntu Netbook Re-mix at the top of
> the page. I was over at a friends house Friday as he installed Ubuntu on
> his Asus EEE. Impressively smooth MS XP preparation tool and simple with a
> 4G data-stick but I'll stick to Linpus as I'm a Fedora fan, really like
> XFCE and all the hardware functions are implemented.

Hi Damian,

I looked into swapping Linpus out for Ubuntu on my son's Acer One and
really couldn't see what the benefits were given that Linpus has been
designed to work with the Acer One and that the Ubuntu build is far from
complete or perfect in that regard.

Once you enable the xfce menu from right-click on the desktop Linpus is
as versatile as Ubuntu IMHO. I did put the latest version of Opera on it
and that's quite nice, especially since I have added that in to the xfce
menu to make it a little more accessible - I haven't discovered how to
hack the main menu yet.

The main thing is that Sammy is very pleased with it and it certainly
gets some use. I'd love one but really can't justify the expense!

Sean

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[Hampshire] Netbook excitement

2008-10-19 Thread Damian Brasher
I treated myself to one, such good value and after all a bit of a
historical landmark for desktop consumer Linux. Some more books for Xmas
rather than this:) It's a cool device and the best value for money. In
fact it's better than my VIA EPIA 500 for many tasks and will hook this up
to a monitor for a perfectly good primary home workstation. The EPIA stays
as a solid partially 'dumb' terminal.

Here are some hacks for the Acer Aspire One if anyone  has one.

http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2008/09/27/30-cool-acer-aspire-one-hacks/

Including a quiet fan hack, the only fault as far as I'm concerned. A
battery upgrade will be made available from Acer (almost certainly from
3rd party dealers) and will take the battery life from about 2 to 4 hours
I believe. There is a Screenshot of Ubuntu Netbook Re-mix at the top of
the page. I was over at a friends house Friday as he installed Ubuntu on
his Asus EEE. Impressively smooth MS XP preparation tool and simple with a
4G data-stick but I'll stick to Linpus as I'm a Fedora fan, really like
XFCE and all the hardware functions are implemented.

Got a couple of upcoming short haul flights to take so this little beast
will be perfect:)

Damian

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[Hampshire] Suse and grub reload

2008-10-19 Thread trotter
Hello,

An update on the grub problem.

Suse 11 dvd downloaded okay and it installed grub on the right hard drive
so the problem was solved using the sledge hammer method rather than
a nut cracker.

But it works which is what matters

Martin N


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Re: [Hampshire] Another Hello

2008-10-19 Thread Mark Johnson
On Wednesday 08 October 2008 08:03:04 Greg Auger wrote:
> Tony:
> I'd be more than happy for you to do so, you can use the the face in
> the top right corner if you wish. I haven't been here for 30 days yet,
> so in theory you shouldn't let me on there though! :) And I'm coming
> to see you at Taunton's today (hopefully!).
>
> Becky:
> Yes, it's nice to know you're not alone! My school has been giving out
> eeepcs recently, one of which my best friend has. Of course they run
> linux, and its great to see some of my friends and teachers see that
> linux is very useful. (Even though the Eees have uselessly small
> screens).
>
> Paul:
> I'm running Sid, mainly because I wanted the latest and greatest
> (although sid doesn't always provide). Perhaps I'll write a blog post
> on my distro choice some time!
>
> Lisi:
> It's so nice to meet similar people in a world of people who don't
> really understand you!
>
> Philip:
> For me it was the greatly improved speed and stability on my old(ish)
> computer. I've got a far faster one since, but I could never go back!

Hi Greg,
It's nice to have someone substantially younger than me on the list!
Just a quick note about the mailing list so that you don't get flamed for it 
in the future: It's generally considered better to reply to each person in a 
separate email, with particular text you're responding to quoted at the top. 
This just makes it easier to work out where the conversation's going (and 
come from), especially when not all the members' short term memories are as 
fresh as ours *ducks* ;-)

Hope you're enjoying your Linux experience so far. I've got myself an eeepc 
900 recently. I certainly wouldn't describe the screen as "uselessly small", 
although I have had the owner of a 701 tell me he finds the screen too small, 
so maybe the extra couple of inches makes all the difference.

Mark

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Re: [Hampshire] Desperately seeking Ubuntu Webbook - with Bolt Cutters!

2008-10-19 Thread Mark Johnson
On Thursday 16 October 2008 22:50:18 Lisi wrote:

> But I have a more cheerful addendum.  I was in Carphone Warehouse in
> Petersfield yesterday because my granddaughter wanted to put some money on
> her mobile 'phone.  I looked idly at the display next to me while waiting
> for her - and there was a Webbook in all its splendour running Ubuntu.  So
> when my granddaughter moved on from topping up her mobile 'phone to window
> shopping earphones, I collared the salesman who had been serving her and
> asked if he would like some leaflets explaining Ubuntu.  He said that they
> are not allowed to display any leaflets but their own.  So I said perhaps
> for the staff, perhaps for him.  And he said...  He knew thanks.  He used
> Linux at home and actually had a Webbook.  So I said that there was
> obviously no need for me to attempt to persuade him of its virtues, and he
> said no, there was no need to convert him because he was already
> converted!!! :-)

One of my friends works at CPW. When they first got webbooks he was telling 
his housemates how he'd been told the Linux versions were rubbish and you 
couldn't do anything with them. Then I used Knoppix to fix his Windows 
desktop. It's amazing what a little demonstration can do to educate.

Mark

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