Re: [Hampshire] Bad Karma
Stephen Davies wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) Mat -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Easy user management in LDAP
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:00:29 +, Stuart Sears stu...@sjsears.com wrote: On 25/10/09 10:23, Samuel Penn wrote: Hi all, I'm in the process of building a new home server, and rather than go down the route of having each service (mail, IM, web etc) use it's own user directory was thinking of using OpenLDAP. Are these services running on multiple hosts, or on your new server? If not, what do you see as the advantages of using a centralised directory service like LDAP? Several hosts, most of them virtual. If nothing else, there's also the learning opportunity since it's something I'd like to know how to do. However, I can't find any easy way of setting up and configuring OpenLDAP as a simple user directory. Does anyone know of any good tools that will allow this? What do you mean by a 'simple' user directory? Which information would you like to store about users? By 'simple', I'm more referring to my expectation that nothing that I want to do is out of the ordinary and that I have no requirements beyond what anyone else would have in terms of managing users for access to typical services (mail, web, login etc). I've looked at LDAP before (to the extent of developing an application around it), and I'm aware that it's very powerful and flexible. However, I'd expect that my requirements are pretty common and that there'd be some standard set of tools and configurations for doing what I need. Just Authentication/Authorisation? (shadow/passwd/group)? Pretty much. Courier needs to be plugged into it as well, so there may be need for an email address. Last night, I got Apache and DokuWiki talking to LDAP, with DokuWiki using the ACLs based off LDAP groups. I also discovered that Konqueror can browse the LDAP server and edit objects, which is kind of useful. I'll take a look at everybody's suggested tools as soon as a get a chance. My next task however is probably integrating it with Samba and CUPS. Sam. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Easy user management in LDAP
I'll take a look at everybody's suggested tools as soon as a get a chance. My next task however is probably integrating it with Samba and CUPS. Sam. It's been years since I played with LDAP, but I did get it working with Samba amongst other things. I cannot remember if I ever got CUPS to work, or if it was even an option back then. One thing I did get working was a company-wide read-only address book. All the data was held in a PostgreSQL db, and LDAP was used as the medium to present this data to Outlook. Chris -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. All Set. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. All Set. The use of 'z' instead of 's' - as in Americanization - and also 'zee' instead of 'zed' while we're at it! Sean -- www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
2009/10/28 Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk: Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. All Set. The use of 'z' instead of 's' - as in Americanization - and also 'zee' instead of 'zed' while we're at it! And they still claim to speak English! :-) -- Philip Stubbs -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. All Set. The use of 'z' instead of 's' - as in Americanization - and also 'zee' instead of 'zed' while we're at it! I'll admit to using Zee instead of Zed. I work for a US company, and our robots have a Z axis. As the majority of training is carried out in the US, some things tend to rub off. Especially when you've been over there for a while. Also # != £ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
and also 'zee' instead of 'zed' while we're at it! I have a colleague who always claims he sets up a dee em zee on corprat networks. It only took about 30,000 long and painful explanations for him to realise that I know perfectly well what a DMZ is, and that my question what's one of those, then? wasn't actually trying to educe the same speech all over again... Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad Karma
Mat Grove wrote: list of annoyingizations of the language :) IMHO if you use 'zation' you are now an american :-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Easy user management in LDAP
Samuel Penn wrote: [...] Several hosts, most of them virtual. If nothing else, there's also the learning opportunity since it's something I'd like to know how to do. I hear that. Been there and done it - do quite a lot of LDAP stuff these days as a result. However, I can't find any easy way of setting up and configuring OpenLDAP as a simple user directory. Does anyone know of any good tools that will allow this? What do you mean by a 'simple' user directory? Which information would you like to store about users? By 'simple', I'm more referring to my expectation that nothing that I want to do is out of the ordinary and that I have no requirements beyond what anyone else would have in terms of managing users for access to typical services (mail, web, login etc). ooh I could get nitpicky there :) But I won't. The fun with this is all about the fact that many apps use different attributes for different bits of information. I've looked at LDAP before (to the extent of developing an application around it), and I'm aware that it's very powerful and flexible. However, I'd expect that my requirements are pretty common and that there'd be some standard set of tools and configurations for doing what I need. Just Authentication/Authorisation? (shadow/passwd/group)? Pretty much. Courier needs to be plugged into it as well, so there may be need for an email address. Last night, I got Apache and DokuWiki talking to LDAP, with DokuWiki using the ACLs based off LDAP groups. I also discovered that Konqueror can browse the LDAP server and edit objects, which is kind of useful. Sounds good. Which schema did you choose? users as InetOrgPerson? for proper UNIX/PAM auth you'll probably want shadowAccount posixAccount posixGroup objectclasses as well. I'll take a look at everybody's suggested tools as soon as a get a chance. My next task however is probably integrating it with Samba and CUPS. SMB: you'll need sambaSAMAccount for samba users in LDAP other than that the basics are documented here: http://aput.net/~jheiss/samba/ldap.shtml http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba__LDAP CUPS: Create an ou=printers container under your main suffix Add the cups LDAP schema to your openLDAP server (nb I just found this, which didn't appear in web searches when I was trying to do this for real...) http://itsecureadmin.com/wiki/index.php/Printer_schema http://itsecureadmin.com/wiki/index.php/LDAP_Printing Regards, Stuart -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Hi, I'm sure someone will be along with more examples momentarily. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Scrounge for 200-pin SODIMM RAM
Hi, Before a colleague at work buys new RAM for his Tosh A110-233 notebook I thought I'd ask, does anyone have any spare 200-pin DDR2 PC2 notebook ram going free or cheap? The current system has a 512Mb stick of 533MHz, and its running a 32-bit O/S (WinXP), so he can't use 4Gb anyway. Thanks in advance. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Every test I write reveals a different bug I have to write another test for. -- Zeno's Paradox of Unit Testing -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. As a Connecticut Yankee in King Arther's Court, well actually an ex, as I've just moved back to the USA, it's Hews-ton Texas, not Whos-ton -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Sean Gibbins wrote: Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. All Set. The use of 'z' instead of 's' - as in Americanization - and also 'zee' instead of 'zed' while we're at it! Being neither chalk nor cheese, I prefer the DMZee but also use XYZed -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Hi Vic, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:34:39AM -, Vic wrote: I have a colleague who always claims he sets up a dee em zee on corprat networks. Corporate networks built out of wood? They must be since they need routers (rowters)... :) Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting * MurkyGoth sends an email to Channel 5 suggesting a reality TV show with GWB, Ging and Robert spb Three Men in a Failboat signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Jim Kissel wrote: Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. As a Connecticut Yankee in King Arther's Court, well actually an ex, as I've just moved back to the USA, it's Hews-ton Texas, not Whos-ton ... unless of course you happen to be in SoHo New York, which means South of Houston, but is pronounced HOWS-TON. Calling it Hews-ton is to a New Yorker like an American calling Leicester Square Lie-Sester Square to us. ;^)= On the subject of Haitch, my Dublin born Irish wife will gladly inform you that Irish kids are taught to say it that way in school, as well as pronouncing R as ORR. jfk (Also in the USA at the moment) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Jack Knight wrote: Jim Kissel wrote: Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. As a Connecticut Yankee in King Arther's Court, well actually an ex, as I've just moved back to the USA, it's Hews-ton Texas, not Whos-ton ... unless of course you happen to be in SoHo New York, which means South of Houston, but is pronounced HOWS-TON. Calling it Hews-ton is to a New Yorker like an American calling Leicester Square Lie-Sester Square to us. ;^)= On the subject of Haitch, my Dublin born Irish wife will gladly inform you that Irish kids are taught to say it that way in school, as well as pronouncing R as ORR. jfk (Also in the USA at the moment) My two-penn'orth: the pronunciation of nuclear as if it were spelled nucular grate Ian -- Ian Park 17 Pyle Hill Newbury Berkshire RG14 7JJ Tel: +44 (0)1635 821420 email: i.d.c.p...@ntlworld.com -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Can Ubuntu break the BIOS
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 13:35 -0500, Mike Burrows wrote: Hi Folks. I have a friend who has installed Ubuntu server edition not sure which version. He would like to boot another disk from the cd drive but in spite of setting the bios correctly grub seems to grab the boot process before anything else has a chance to load. Is this a function of Ubuntu or is his bios broken. The BIOS is either still configured incorrectly, or it has a bug, or for some reason the CD cannot be booted (broken disc and/or drive). James -- The Holy ettlz theholyet...@googlemail.com PGP key ID: 03F94B5D --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Easy user management in LDAP
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 11:14:15 STuart Sears wrote: Samuel Penn wrote: What do you mean by a 'simple' user directory? Which information would you like to store about users? By 'simple', I'm more referring to my expectation that nothing that I want to do is out of the ordinary and that I have no requirements beyond what anyone else would have in terms of managing users for access to typical services (mail, web, login etc). ooh I could get nitpicky there :) But I won't. The fun with this is all about the fact that many apps use different attributes for different bits of information. That's half the problem - I get the feeling that a good proportion of the differences are unneeded, and only there because nobody could agree on a standard. Last night, I got Apache and DokuWiki talking to LDAP, with DokuWiki using the ACLs based off LDAP groups. I also discovered that Konqueror can browse the LDAP server and edit objects, which is kind of useful. Sounds good. Which schema did you choose? users as InetOrgPerson? person organizationalPerson inetOrgPerson posixAccount Chosen based on examples I found. I haven't thought about integrating with PAM yet - it's not a priority. Thanks for the tips on Samba/CUPS -- Be seeing you, http://www.glendale.org.uk Sam.Mail/IM (Jabber): s...@glendale.org.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Scrounge for 200-pin SODIMM RAM
Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: Before a colleague at work buys new RAM for his Tosh A110-233 notebook I thought I'd ask, does anyone have any spare 200-pin DDR2 PC2 notebook ram going free or cheap? Similar question here except for regular DDR (aka DDR1): my Thinkpad X40 takes PC-2700 / DDR 333 CL2.5 (200-pin SODIMM). Anyone got a spare 512 or 1Gb to sell? I'm usually at the joint Hants/Surrey meetings if that helps. Anthony -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
