Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
On 02/01/2010 02:51 AM, LinuxLearner wrote:
consent to give Facebook my email). This infuriates me, no end: it's
You misunderstand, possibly;
Somebody, somewhere (doesn't matter who, or how they got the address),
has your email addy stored at (say) GMail. That person decides to use
the FB option to mail all their friends invites. You get one. FB don't
send you a message then store the info and keep sending you stuff.
Oh yes oh yes they do ... I have had quite a number of people 'invite'
me to join facebook over the years ... I've never accepted any of those
offers ... Yet once a month/quarter/bi-annually {whatever}, I get
invites i.e. repeatedly (mentioning those persons) from FB, direct.
I don't know, and don't care to know/care, HOW, exactly, FB got my email
(whether by direct input from a known party or via said known party(ies)
allowing FB to access e.g. their web-based address books ... I just
don't want SPAM, and FB *is* SPAMMING me, without comeback.
Disgraceful conduct, which needs to be stopped, *immediately*.
There is comeback available. Via the data protection act.
It's easy, simply visit this link:
http://www.ico.gov.uk/what_we_cover/data_protection/your_rights/preventing_unsolicited_marketing.aspx
Open their PDF on Unwanted marketing, scroll down to page 4. Write an
email to facebook with the contents of the model letter on that page
requiring them to stop processing your details for the purposes of
direct marketing.
They are required under uk law to stop. If they do not then you can
complain to the ICO and they will investigate.
If you don't follow those steps, then under current UK law there is
nothing you can do about it. I would agree that it isn't great but using
the data protection act will get results. It has worked for me on
numerous occasions, I've even had a letter back from the ICO after they
had to follow up on a company that decided to ignore my letter and I've
never had any contact from that company again!
I don't think the laws go far enough, I think it should be extended to
include the right for you to have your data removed from companies
systems, but unfortunately it doesn't. For now the DPA is a very good
way of stopping reputable companies from spamming you, it won't stop
illegal or dis-reputable companies but then no law would ;)
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[Hampshire] Debian auto-mount scripting?
Hello folks What's the up-to-date way to run a script when a USB hard-drive is plugged in to a server running Debian 5.0 and a 2.6.26 kernel? Autofs/automount? udev? The technology seems to keep changing, and I don't know what's fashionable this year. At the moment I've got autofs mounting the drive when it's plugged in, but I'd also like to trigger the backup script. And this is for a server, so there's no desktop magic happening. cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
Hello, all! Quite a while ago, I had a problem with a machine which suddenly wouldn't start. After several attempts it started and ran normally and then would, again, refuse to start. On power-up, the fan would sometimes 'kick' and then nothing. Very occasionally, it would start and run normally. I checked everything I could think of, replaced the power supply and on/off switch (etc.) but the same problem continued. I raised a question on this forum, but got no answers. I never did resolve it and eventually cannibalised the machine for spares. I've just encountered another machine (a completely different make) which is displaying identical symptoms, so I'm moved to have another try. Does anyone have any suggestions? Chris. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
Stephen Rowles wrote:
On 02/01/2010 02:51 AM, LinuxLearner wrote:
consent to give Facebook my email). This infuriates me, no end: it's
You misunderstand, possibly;
Somebody, somewhere (doesn't matter who, or how they got the address),
has your email addy stored at (say) GMail. That person decides to use
the FB option to mail all their friends invites. You get one. FB don't
send you a message then store the info and keep sending you stuff.
Oh yes oh yes they do ... I have had quite a number of people 'invite'
me to join facebook over the years ... I've never accepted any of those
offers ... Yet once a month/quarter/bi-annually {whatever}, I get
invites i.e. repeatedly (mentioning those persons) from FB, direct.
I don't know, and don't care to know/care, HOW, exactly, FB got my email
(whether by direct input from a known party or via said known party(ies)
allowing FB to access e.g. their web-based address books ... I just
don't want SPAM, and FB *is* SPAMMING me, without comeback.
Disgraceful conduct, which needs to be stopped, *immediately*.
There is comeback available. Via the data protection act.
The Data Protection Act is completely toothless; it takes thousands of
complaints before they ICO takes any serious action at all, and then
their idea of 'serious action' is to send a cease and desist order. I
know, I tried using their route over telephone SPAM; the company
concerned was a *repeat offender* (10,000's of unwanted 'silent' calls
made per month, harassing everyone (and distressing oldies)); they did
not have their licence removed, despite it being the second time they
had been dragged into court by the ICO. Toothless in the extreme.
Now, if we actually wanted this stuff to stop happening, a £100.00 fine
per email received, per person receiving, would get the desired result
(bankruptcy of companies that do this by way of policy), and fast. ;)
It's easy, simply visit this link:
http://www.ico.gov.uk/what_we_cover/data_protection/your_rights/preventing_unsolicited_marketing.aspx
Open their PDF on Unwanted marketing, scroll down to page 4. Write an
email to facebook with the contents of the model letter on that page
requiring them to stop processing your details for the purposes of
direct marketing.
The notice must be in writing and may be in the form of a letter. You
should ensure that the notice is dated. There is no particular form of
words that you need to use provided that you make clear the following:
* Your identity and the personal data to which you refer
Oh great, so in order to stop a company from SPAMMING me I first have to
increase the value of the data they have on me by confirming they have
my identity down correctly (or worse, correcting it); not going to
happen. I'm not going to be part of the economic problem.
And how much do I get paid for all of this time I'm spending? Nada ...
How much value does FB continue to accrue for having all this data on
people that was collected *and used* without their consent?
The economics is all wrong, which is why the problem will persist.
They are required under uk law to stop. If they do not then you can
complain to the ICO and they will investigate.
And where's my compensation, for time spent and hassle? There is none.
If you don't follow those steps, then under current UK law there is
nothing you can do about it.
I disagree entirely. There are lots of things I can do about it, for
one, start sending unsolicited remailed email to them ... one a day, and
encourage everyone else to do the same, as but one example! ;) Until
the economics are *not* in their favour, because people make it so, they
will continue, and continue, and continue. :(
I would agree that it isn't great but using
the data protection act will get results.
Didn't work for me the only time I tried use it. This wasn't entirely a
useless spend of time though: http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/
But it was only when I changed numbers, and went ex-directory that
telephone SPAM stopped for good. ;)
It has worked for me on
numerous occasions, I've even had a letter back from the ICO after they
had to follow up on a company that decided to ignore my letter and I've
never had any contact from that company again!
I don't think the laws go far enough, I think it should be extended to
include the right for you to have your data removed from companies
systems, but unfortunately it doesn't. For now the DPA is a very good
way of stopping reputable companies from spamming you,
I don't see a law that requires me to enforce it as a 'good' law at all.
The law should be written so that the companies do not do it in the
first place, or if they do, they have immediate economic, disastrous
consequences. That'll be the only way their fingers stop hitting send.
it won't stop
illegal or dis-reputable companies but then no law would ;)
Which essentially means we obviously have a different
Re: [Hampshire] Debian auto-mount scripting?
On 11:58 Mon 01 Feb , Chris Dennis wrote: Hello folks What's the up-to-date way to run a script when a USB hard-drive is plugged in to a server running Debian 5.0 and a 2.6.26 kernel? Autofs/automount? udev? The technology seems to keep changing, and I don't know what's fashionable this year. At the moment I've got autofs mounting the drive when it's plugged in, but I'd also like to trigger the backup script. And this is for a server, so there's no desktop magic happening. I'd be tempted to use udev for that, with the RUN+= key kicking off a backup script. Stuart -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
Hi Chris, Have you checked for shorts, specifically between the mainboard and chassis? I've seen a few cases where such symptoms were present because of this. Russell. On 1 February 2010 12:21, Chris. Aubrey-Smith cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, all! Quite a while ago, I had a problem with a machine which suddenly wouldn't start. After several attempts it started and ran normally and then would, again, refuse to start. On power-up, the fan would sometimes 'kick' and then nothing. Very occasionally, it would start and run normally. I checked everything I could think of, replaced the power supply and on/off switch (etc.) but the same problem continued. I raised a question on this forum, but got no answers. I never did resolve it and eventually cannibalised the machine for spares. I've just encountered another machine (a completely different make) which is displaying identical symptoms, so I'm moved to have another try. Does anyone have any suggestions? Chris. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
On 1 February 2010 12:57, Russell Morris gren...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Have you checked for shorts, specifically between the mainboard and chassis? I've seen a few cases where such symptoms were present because of this. Russell. Ah! Yes! Somebody did suggest that, but I'd forgotten. Thanks for reminding me... Chris. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:51:33 + LinuxLearner
passiveprof...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Hello LinuxLearner,
Why is facilitating data-rape not a crime?
What data rape? Your email address is *not* private data.
Arguable ... If I create a new email address right now, only me and the
company that gave it to me know it exists ... To me, that satisfies the
definition of 'private' (but the address can still be used; with the
company that gave it to me). If I then give it out to just those I want
to use it, I don't think that satisfies the definition (or should) that
it now be 'public data', and thus a free for all by all dishonest
companies out there can develop. We may just disagree on this though.
Neither, you
might be horrified to hear, are such things as your name, date of
birth, marital status, etc.
Which is why it's a better personal policy, simply to never give this
info out. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your view, this is
only resulting in companies increasingly collecting incorrect data, as
more and more p*ssed off people simply start lying to companies about
who they are, what their name is, etc, etc, etc. I don't think the law
should be set up in such a way that citizens only have this as
'recourse'. We can do (much) better, IMHO.
In fact, your email address, by definition, is public data. If it
weren't, it would serve no purpose whatsoever.
Ibid. You confuse 'private' with 'not known by anyone' and public with
'known {or knowable} by everyone'. Again, we may be playing semantics.
In practical effect, what I would like is a world where CONSENT is key,
and this simply does not apply, at the moment, when it comes to e.g. FB.
As I've already told you, and now Stephen, (who has done the leg work
for you) contact FB.
Cannot be bothered to potentially waste my time like that (I have no
idea if Facebook complies but doubt it due to their current policies in
this regard). I prefer the route of pointing out publicly how they
operate, why it's wrong, and why it should be (if not already), illegal.
I agree wholeheartedly though, that we should have the right to get
companies to delete all but necessary legal/accounting data about us,
but I'm not going to be part of the problem by starting to confirm to
SPAMMERS, who I am, etc. Per previous post, I wouldn't do it to a
company SPAMMING me about p*nis enhancement cream, why should I do it
for FB, unless there be *two* sets of rules developing here, in
practice, which I think there is, and which I think is wrong.
Best,
LL
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Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
Hi folks, I know privacy and spam are very emotive issues. I myself feel strongly about privacy issues in modern society, but please remember this mailing list is a place for *friendly* debate and has subscribers of all ages. Please craft you post accordingly, I understand the temptation to rant about subjects you feel strongly on, but as always please take a depth breath and re-read any post before sending it. Thanks Regards, Andy -- Andrew Ransom a...@hantslug.org.uk [Hants LUG List Admin] -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
LinuxLearner wrote:
Which in my view is most probably a breach of Data Protection Act
provisions. e.g. I get regular 'invites' from Facebook, though I have
never given Facebook consent to email me (nor ever given anyone I know
consent to give Facebook my email). This infuriates me, no end: it's
SPAM, plain and simple, which *big* business gets away with.
I'm new to this DPA stuff (and for Linux users I think this is
inevitably on topic) but at www.ico.gov.uk:
Personal data means data which relate to a living individual who can be
identified
(a) from those data, or
(b) from those data and other information which is in the possession of,
or is likely to come into the possession of, the data controller,
and includes any expression of opinion about the individual and any
indication of the intentions of the data controller or any other person
in respect of the individual.
The phrase and includes looks to me like a widely phrased get-out, but
there it is.
But this is the Facebook users wanting to contact you. How else
could it work?
Maybe it shouldn't work. ;) Maybe, just maybe, *I* should control data
about myself, and no other, without *my* consent. {period}.
So ideally you'd want me prevented from taking a photo which includes
you in a public place?
Keeping it short ;-)
Anthony
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Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:08:11 + LinuxLearner passiveprof...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Hello LinuxLearner, Cannot be bothered to potentially waste my time like that (I have no If you can't be bothered, don't expect anybody to do it on your behalf. Not that we could, anyway. IOW, stop whining about something you're not prepared to try and change. It makes you sound like a petulant child. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Junk floats on polluted water Hong Kong Garden - Siouxsie The Banshees signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
On 1 February 2010 12:57, Russell Morris gren...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Have you checked for shorts, specifically between the mainboard and chassis? I've seen a few cases where such symptoms were present because of this. Russell. I now have the motherboard, power supply, etc. laid out on my wooden desktop. Same behaviour, so it's not that Chris. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 02:04:23PM +, Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: On 1 February 2010 12:57, Russell Morris gren...@gmail.com wrote: Have you checked for shorts, specifically between the mainboard and chassis? I've seen a few cases where such symptoms were present because of this. I now have the motherboard, power supply, etc. laid out on my wooden desktop. Same behaviour, so it's not that Strip it down to absolutely nothing (Motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU, CPU fan) and see if that much works. Possibly wire a speaker in to the speaker header on the motherboard and see if you get a beep. If that works, add parts one at a time (turning it off while you do so, of course) until it stops working. If there's no signs of life even in a minimal configuration, take the heatsink off, clean it and the CPU, and re-apply the thermal compound. Also try another PSU, and that PSU with another machine. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Great oxymorons of the world, no. 7: The Simple Truth --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
I now have the motherboard, power supply, etc. laid out on my wooden desktop. Same behaviour, so it's not that Strip it down to absolutely nothing (Motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU, CPU fan) and see if that much works. Yes, that's what I've done. (See above.) If there's no signs of life even in a minimal configuration, take the heatsink off, clean it and the CPU, and re-apply the thermal compound. That's my next move! Also try another PSU, and that PSU with another machine. Yes, already done that. (See original post.) Thanks for the suggestions: I'll let you know how I get on with CPU and heatsink. Chris. Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
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Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
Maybe, just maybe, *I* should control data
about myself, and no other, without *my* consent. {period}.
So ideally you'd want me prevented from taking a photo which includes
you in a public place?
Which is also perfectly legal for any purposes :)
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Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
On 1 February 2010 14:20, Chris. Aubrey-Smith cas...@gmail.com wrote: I now have the motherboard, power supply, etc. laid out on my wooden desktop. Same behaviour, so it's not that Strip it down to absolutely nothing (Motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU, CPU fan) and see if that much works. Yes, that's what I've done. (See above.) If there's no signs of life even in a minimal configuration, take the heatsink off, clean it and the CPU, and re-apply the thermal compound. That's my next move! Also try another PSU, and that PSU with another machine. Yes, already done that. (See original post.) Thanks for the suggestions: I'll let you know how I get on with CPU and heatsink. I have travelled thus far many times before, but I'm beginning to move into unfamiliar territory. Is there an 'approved' method for separating a big aluminium heatsink from a processor, to which it is attached as though superglued? Chris. Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
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Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 03:28:54PM +, Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: On 1 February 2010 14:20, Chris. Aubrey-Smith cas...@gmail.com wrote: If there's no signs of life even in a minimal configuration, take the heatsink off, clean it and the CPU, and re-apply the thermal compound. That's my next move! I have travelled thus far many times before, but I'm beginning to move into unfamiliar territory. Is there an 'approved' method for separating a big aluminium heatsink from a processor, to which it is attached as though superglued? The best I can suggest is (gentle!) twisting, with the CPU still in the motherboard (to get more leverage). I've only had one machine with the heatsink glued on, and I decided I didn't really care that much about changing the heatsink. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Well, you don't get to be a kernel hacker simply by looking --- good in Speedos. -- Rusty Russell signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
Antony wrote: So ideally you'd want me prevented from taking a photo which includes you in a public place? If I enter a *public* space then there is no expectation of privacy, so no, I would not be in favour of a law which stated no persons may take photographs of public spaces without the consent of all the people appearing therein. Solutions abound; like a hat! :) However, I do think it decorum, to not take photographs of people who do not wish their photographs to be taken. Travelling internationally, one comes across this in certain places; an expectation, that even in public space(s) one should not photograph those that do not wish their photographs to be taken, e.g. in some Muslim countries in West Africa I've visited, it's seen as *highly* impolitic to take a photograph of a woman without obtaining her consent beforehand. If you do it, you might just find yourself on the wrong end of a public lynching! g Keeping it short ;-) Trying, likewise. :) Best, LL -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recurrent Hardware Problem
Is there an 'approved' method for separating a big aluminium heatsink from a processor, to which it is attached as though superglued? The best I can suggest is (gentle!) twisting, with the CPU still in the motherboard (to get more leverage). I've only had one machine with the heatsink glued on, and I decided I didn't really care that much about changing the heatsink. My usual method of removing epoxied or superglued objects is heat. Acetone will also work well on dissolving superglue, less useful on epoxies. 100C shouldn't bother the CPU. Peter -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:08:11 + LinuxLearner passiveprof...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Hello LinuxLearner, Cannot be bothered to potentially waste my time like that (I have no If you can't be bothered, don't expect anybody to do it on your behalf. I think you'll find I never asked nor expected anyone to do it on my behalf. Try reading what I write, rather than making it up, please. :) Not that we could, anyway. Correct; rather making your above pointless verbiage. Though the irony that you're whining about someone whining, hasn't been lost on me. LOL IOW, stop whining about something you're not prepared to try and change. You've obviously never done any campaigning work; the first thing one must do before legislative change is possible, is create awareness of the problem(s), and a desire to see solutions, in a sizeable enough majority for the politicos to want to gain your vote(s) for pledging to change the law. Politics 101, my friend. I think this issue is misunderstood by many, including you. The law is in a terrible state in this regard, and writing to the ICO, or FB, isn't going to change that. Only awareness raising, leading to a promise to tighten up the law in this area, will. It makes you sound like a petulant child. I've (finally) learned to ignore trolls. Best, LL -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo
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Re: [Hampshire] Debian auto-mount scripting?
Stuart Sears wrote: On 11:58 Mon 01 Feb , Chris Dennis wrote: Hello folks What's the up-to-date way to run a script when a USB hard-drive is plugged in to a server running Debian 5.0 and a 2.6.26 kernel? Autofs/automount? udev? The technology seems to keep changing, and I don't know what's fashionable this year. At the moment I've got autofs mounting the drive when it's plugged in, but I'd also like to trigger the backup script. And this is for a server, so there's no desktop magic happening. I'd be tempted to use udev for that, with the RUN+= key kicking off a backup script. OK, I'll try that. Thank you. cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Fwd: Re: Hantslug IBM Hursley meeting (Feb 2010)
Frrm Anton, regarding February's meeting -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Hantslug IBM Hursley meeting (Feb 2010) Date: Monday 01 February 2010 Hi, Start time is 10:00-10:45 (please arrive within that time if you can). The day is planned to finish about 4:30 but that might depend on how many talks we have Regards, Anton Anton Piatek Websphere Message Broker Development / Test Office: Mailpoint: Email: Phone: DE2V24 MP 127, IBM Hursley Labs, Winchester, SO21 2JN anton.pia...@uk.ibm.com (Internal) 246557 (External) +44 (0)1962 816557 Bluepages Blog Open Client for Debian Community developer Blog - Wiki -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Microsoft has run out of SUSE Vouchers
SD Times is reporting that Microsoft has exhausted its supply of SUSE Vouchers. http://www.bz-news.com/t.do?id=4182032:12279109 The article quotes A total of 475 customers have used an unspecified number of coupons, according to Microsoft. Customers redeem the coupons for a single- or multi-year subscription for upgrades, updates and technical support from Novell. 475 customers cost them $240 million? That is some cost of sale. I would have thought that the customer numbers should have been in the thousands not hundreds. Stephen D -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [ADMIN] February Meeting
Hi, For those not going to FOSDEM we have the privilege of visiting IBM Hursley again next Saturday (06 Feb 2010). We have some talks planned and there will be space for more normal bring a box events. There are some restrictions to be aware off: 1) Arrival and departure times need to be set so that the campus security can deal with everyone. * Arrival time needs to be between 10:00 to 10:45. * Anton will do the welcome and introduction at 11:00. * Departure time is 4:30. If you want to arrive or leave earlier then this is possible but it is more complicated to arrange. 2) Lunch has provisionally been arranged at the Club House, where food will be available to buy as will beer and soft drinks. Last time they didn't mind people bringing their own food but I do not know what the formal policy is. 3) We have had some talks offered so there should be plenty to keep people interested. 4) Wireless Internet access will be available but wired internet access will not be available. 5) If you bring some IT kit, security will need to know it's serial number so they know you are allowed to leave with it. The location is FANTASTIC and I hope everyone agrees the restrictions are only fair and not too onerous. If you have not emailed Anton, please do now so he knows how many people to expect. http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?6February2010 I look forward to seeing all the non FOSDEMers! PS I have more books to give out for review..! -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK The Internet? We are not interested in it. -- Bill Gates, 1993 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Allegations made by LinuxLearner (Was: Re: stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo)
Hello, In general I have no interest in responding to LinuxLearner's trolling, but he has made some accusations which I feel I need to set straight for the record. This is a publicly archived mailing list and his unfortunate post may be stumbled upon by anyone. On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 02:19:52AM +, LinuxLearner wrote: a quick search reveals neither Andy Smith, Andrew Smith, nor Bitfolk Ltd *seem* to be registered as data controllers as required by law ... Which rather puts your businesses claim BitFolk takes your privacy very seriously in a somewhat, shall we say, a laughable light, I have no idea why it doesn't appear, but anyone who believes that we hold personal data on them is welcome to contact me offlist for a copy of our DPR declaration form as sent to ICO a couple of years ago. They have certainly had no qualms in taking £35/yr for it ever since. The form isn't very interesting though as it's just the template for Internet service provider i.e. basically: Purposes: Accounts and records Subjects Customers and clients Classes Family, lifestyle and social circumstances Goods or services provided Personal details Recipients Data subjects themselves Ombudsmen and regulatory authorities Suppliers, providers of goods or services Transfers None outside the EEA It's all very vague. But you are displaying what we northerners call a bit of the 'Pot calling the kettle black', when you gripe about businesses not being compliant, but yours isn't, either. I have not made any accusation of DPA non-compliance in this thread, and I would urge anyone reading this to not take allegations made by LinuxLearner at face value. Subscribing to Surrey LUG and then perusing their (sadly closed) archives will be enlightening. Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
