Re: [Hampshire] Linux printer recommendations.

2011-12-17 Thread Freaky Clown
I hate all printers - they are the only piece of technology that has
not gotten significantly better in 5 years - however I recently HAD to
buy a printer and was shocked at how easy the Kodak ESP 7250 was to
get workign in linux - it literally was 30 seconds - I was gobsmacked.

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Re: [Hampshire] Linux printer recommendations.

2011-12-17 Thread Anton Piatek
I have an oldish Samsung bw laser, but it was trivial to make work in linux.

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On Dec 17, 2011 4:08 PM, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hate all printers - they are the only piece of technology that has
 not gotten significantly better in 5 years - however I recently HAD to
 buy a printer and was shocked at how easy the Kodak ESP 7250 was to
 get workign in linux - it literally was 30 seconds - I was gobsmacked.

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Re: [Hampshire] Linux power monitoring tools.

2011-12-17 Thread Anton Piatek
I agree with Bob. This generally isn't possible with normal pc hardware.
Also, unloading a module doesn't necessarily stop the hardware using power.

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On Dec 14, 2011 2:46 PM, Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:

 Hi,

 On Wed, Dec 14 at 10:33, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have an aim to monitor as precisely as possible the power usages of
  a number of servers.

 Like:

 # ioline-summary
 Data Out power: Bus Voltage 13.38 V
 Data Out power: Current 0.256 A
 Data Out power: Power 3.43 W
 External power outlet 0:Bus Voltage 12.87 V
 External power outlet 0:Current 0.002 A
 External power outlet 0:Power 0.02 W
 External power outlet 1:Bus Voltage 12.86 V
 External power outlet 1:Current -0.001 A
 External power outlet 1:Power -0.02 W
 Port A power:   Bus Voltage 12.86 V
 Port A power:   Current -0.069 A
 Port A power:   Power -0.89 W
 Port C power:   Bus Voltage 12.84 V
 Port C power:   Current 0.001 A
 Port C power:   Power 0.02 W
 Sensor power:   Bus Voltage 12.87 V
 Sensor power:   Current -0.001 A
 Sensor power:   Power -0.02 W


 Sorry to tease, that's on a piece of non-PC equipment and uber expensive.
 Oh and Kelly wrote the interface so users can get graphs against time and
 other parameters such as temperature.


 Standard PC hardware doesn't normally allow you to monitor the current
 drawn from a supply, only the voltage, hence no way to determine the
 power consumption.  Voltage was easy to measure so was thrown in to keep
 customers amused, but current would have cost a few pennies so wasn't.

 A few specialist suppliers and high end manufacturers do include current
 monitoring hardware.  Look for ESA compatible power supplies for example.


  I cannot seem to find any tools that monitor things like:
  1) Total power consumbed as a monotonic kWh value.

 Unless you've got one of those expensive monitorable power supplies your
 best bet is going to be a CurrentCost appliance monitor or similar.


  2) Power broken down by device within the system.

 Without the sensors to measure it software is only going to be able to give
 you the broadest stroke estimate.  Again per device current sensors is
 rather specialist.


  3) Power broken down by process within the system.

 Even with hardware sensors ascribing power consumption to individual
 processes would be difficult.  I guess you could look at a processes I/O
 stats then do something like 10% of disk I/O equals 10% of disk hardware
 power consumption.


 I think a lot of the monitoring software out there is smoke and mirrors
 on top of guesswork.

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Re: [Hampshire] Linux printer recommendations.

2011-12-17 Thread hantslug
On Saturday 17 December 2011 16:11:41 Anton Piatek wrote:
 I have an oldish Samsung bw laser, but it was trivial to make work in
 linux.

+1

Lisi

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Re: [Hampshire] Linux printer recommendations.

2011-12-17 Thread Clive Woodfine
On 17 December 2011 16:08, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate all printers - they are the only piece of technology that has
 not gotten significantly better in 5 years - however I recently HAD to
 buy a printer and was shocked at how easy the Kodak ESP 7250 was to
 get workign in linux - it literally was 30 seconds - I was gobsmacked.

Thanks Freaky.

They tried to sell me one of those in Comet but after Kodak took too
long to take digital photography seriously I have kept away from their
digital products. I am interested to hear your experience of this
printer.

The printer is mainly for my wife to use from 'Win 7' and a friend of
hers recommended an Epson SX425W so I bought one. I had trouble at
first getting it to work from Ubuntu 10.04 as the correct driver was
not listed in the Printer Setup. However after I downloaded one from
[1] it now works. It is too early to say how well as this was late
last night.

[1] http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/

I expect Lisi could use this without the /eng/ part? (English translation)

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Re: [Hampshire] External USB HDD spindown.

2011-12-17 Thread Anton Piatek
Hdparm can set it on the drive with a timeout iirc

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On Dec 17, 2011 5:07 PM, Clive Woodfine clivewoodf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having just read about PC power monitoring reminded about this question.

 Is there a way of saving power on an external hard drive by spinning
 down the disk after a certain period of non use? I have one in an
 external USB attached caddy. Do you need a special disk or caddy?

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Re: [Hampshire] External USB HDD spindown.

2011-12-17 Thread Clive Woodfine
On 17 December 2011 17:16, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote:
 Hdparm can set it on the drive with a timeout iirc

 Anton

Many thanks Anton. The usefulness of the Hants LUG again!

Wikipedia gives me this example:-

hdparm -S 24 /dev/sda for 120 seconds of inactivity.

I will give it a try later.

Clive

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