Re: [Hampshire] Flash Player on Linux
Id agree. Silverlight was short lived. HTML5 appears to support mpeg4 movie / m4a audio on fly, but im no expert, but have been using html5 features rather than embedding flash. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Philip Stubbs wrote: On 2 July 2012 21:03, Chris Dennis wrote: > Hello Folks > > I've just noticed this on the Adobe web page > (http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?promoid=BUIGP): > > NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target > Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide > security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux. > > Is this a problem? Are we better off without Flash Player? What will > replace it -- HTML5? They also have no plans to support Android 4.1 and beyond. That is probably more significant an indication that Flash is going away to be consigned to history. -- Philip Stubbs -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk _ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Online chat with Mark Shuttleworth
Hi Alan, On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 13:28 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > On 05/07/12 11:16, Gordon Scott wrote: > > Not so long ago the login screen had an 'desktop chooser' option on it, > > so if you preferred a different WM than the 'standard', you just chose > > it there. I was disappointed that that had gone > > No, it hasn't. The option to select which desktop to use at logon time > is there and always has been in every release. > > Cheers, That statement a surprise, so I checked again. No option on the login pop-up, no option on the toolbar. If he says it's there, it must need enabling somehow. Try selecting the user to get the password box and look around again. No option on the pop-up; Oh .. there's stuff on the toolbar. I'd never, ever, noticed any of it, presumably because when they appear, I'm looking at the password box and I have to say that they're not exactly conspicuous. On my large screens, it's out of my main field of view. These are little grey boxes several inches away from the pop-up where they used to be. I saw them _only_ because I was actively looking around for them. Those options are there for about two seconds whilst I'm looking elsewhere, then are gone (in 10.04-LTS, anyway). Even knowing that they're there, if I'm looking at the login pop-up, they're virtually invisible. Presumably they've been down there since I upgraded to 10.04.LTS. I guess 11.11 or whatever it was is similar? I do though also this highlights again why a multi-screen desktop and a tablet are very different animals. My apologies for saying it wasn't there, I was mistaken. However, I plead mitigation. Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Online chat with Mark Shuttleworth
On 05/07/12 11:16, Gordon Scott wrote: Not so long ago the login screen had an 'desktop chooser' option on it, so if you preferred a different WM than the 'standard', you just chose it there. I was disappointed that that had gone No, it hasn't. The option to select which desktop to use at logon time is there and always has been in every release. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Surrey & Hants Hackspace Meeting tonight
Hi, The Surrey & Hants Hackspace (sh-hackspace) project are having a meeting this evening. All our welcome to attend. Agenda: http://sh-hackspace.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Meeting_2012-07-05 Location: The Lion Brewery - http://sh-hackspace.org.uk/wiki/index.php/The_Lion_Brewery Date: 5 July 2012 Time: 19.00 If you have anything you would like to raise, add it to the wiki and/or just turn up. See you there! For more details about SH-Hackspace, browse the website:- http://sh-hackspace.org.uk/ Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] My 2p on the GUI 'Wars'
Xdm, gdm, kdm or just chucking an su -m user startx at boot with a nice .xinitrc to say which wm to use. So many ways for auto login. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. hants...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wednesday 04 July 2012 18:14:08 Imran Chaudhry wrote: > Log-in without password I found a hassle with Debian. I set this up regularly for my husband, my granddaughter and myself. I have never had a problem. (kdm, kdm-trinity, gdm with LXDE. also Lubuntu, but I don't remember whether it was there by default or I set it.) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk _ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Online chat with Mark Shuttleworth
On 05/07/12 11:16, Gordon Scott wrote: Not so long ago the login screen had an 'desktop chooser' option on it, so if you preferred a different WM than the 'standard', you just chose it there. I was disappointed that that had gone (I'm sure I could find how to restore it, but didn't .. life's too short), so went with the flow and used Gnome. I believe the MyUnity app (from the Ubuntu Software Centre) happens to include a Gnome session, with or without effects, and is accessed, as other WMs would be, via a click on the Ubuntu logo in the corner of the login window. I first met Unity when trying to get an urgent job done. Not a good time to meet something so radically different, sympathies. I played with Unity a while but steadfastly continued using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS until I was ready to give 12.04 a bit of time. It repays the effort, and although it is hard to describe, I have a clear and increasing like of Unity. When first presented with it though, without a 'Help' function visible (!) it is hard work for anything but initial use. Help: Super key>Dash> help drag 'help' to the launcher, right click to fix in launcher. The neat way in which Unity manages multiple windows completely escaped me for a couple of months., but is now in regular use. :-) -- alan cocks -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Online chat with Mark Shuttleworth
On 04/07/2012 23:34, Leszek Kobiernicki 1 wrote: On 04/07/12 10:19, Alan Pope wrote: Mark Shuttleworth: It was tough to lead ( snip ) We had done very well just shipping the best of FLOSS, but it clearly wasn't enough. ( snip ) we found industry politics blocked us ( snip ) So, now we know why Unity -- it's hardware-driven -- greed to capture the i-Pad, & similar devices + Android, etc. internet phones. The software house isn't in the driving seat, after all. " Follow the money " .. I think you already knew that ;-> Mark Shuttleworth: ( snip) Unity ( snip) was in large part designed to make the tablet / desktop convergence Just as I thought .. Just before the Unity/GUI-wars threads I posted about my fears that "the tail was starting to wag the dog" and Unity was _exactly_ what I had in mind when I wrote that. Not so long ago the login screen had an 'desktop chooser' option on it, so if you preferred a different WM than the 'standard', you just chose it there. I was disappointed that that had gone (I'm sure I could find how to restore it, but didn't .. life's too short), so went with the flow and used Gnome. I first met Unity when trying to get an urgent job done. I debated 10.04-LTS or the latest version (11.10, maybe?) and decided on the latter. I logged in and say a desktop that was totally, _Totally_, different from the previous one. I spent a little while trying to make sense of what was where and how to add & configure the stuff I needed, but just couldn't find them. With now only about an hour and a half to deadline, I dumped it an started over with 10.04.LTS and _just_ configured the machine in time (I mean 10 minutes before before serious ouef sur la visage). I wasn't so much that change; it was such a radical change that for me at least came right out of the blue. OK, mea culpa for not playing safer and sticking with exactly what is familiar, but I simply didn't expect quite such a radical change and no obvious quick-and-easy revert to familiar. Just one reason why that was a bad move is that it means I am now _very_ wary of making that change. I can't afford to lose hours, days, or possibly longer learning everything again. It may be fine for Linux IT support people, it may be fine for newbies and office workers who want web, mail, wordprocessor and a couple of other things. I'm an Electronics Engineer working electronics hardware, mechanical hardware, embedded software and Linux+Windows software, occasionally Mac. I use a huge number of tools, some of which are very complex, some of which are only on Windows. If I were not careful and pragmatic, I could spend all my time learning new tools and none of my time designing products and earning a living. Change and change management is with me every hour of every working day. But I can only cope with so much change at any one time! I _will_ admit to being a GOM... The first thing I do on any OS I install is turn off as many special effects, sounds, blinks, flashes, wallpapers, 'glass' and other distractions as I can. For me they are all time-wasters and obfuscators that I need not. I abhor waiting for fancy sliding menus, zooming bubbles, sliding windows and all the other bling. As I said in my tail & dog post, a smartphone/tablet oriented interface is possibly not ideal for a large multiscreen desktop workstation. Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
