Re: [Hampshire] Today's Surrey LUG BBQ
On 14/07/12 21:33, Robert Longstaff wrote: Hello. Just wanted to thank JohnW for hosting the BBQ today - we suffered a downpour right at the beginning while setting up but after that it cleared up and there were only occasional spots of rain (which was better than the forecast which predicted continuous heavy rain!) About 14 people turned up in total and we had a great time. Special thanks to Gill for helping out (and putting up with us) and to Alex for his barbeque lighting skillz. Regards, robert_ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- Agreed - it was a really pleasant afternoon. Highlights: Jacqui's tales of RepRap; Gill and Fay and 'Delft Casting'; The recently-born foal in the next field; John's elusive bunny (He must have heard you); Intrepid Ian arriving from afar and through floods on his motorbike; Lethal Chilli oil used as a BBQ accelerant; John's home-made bread; Big strawberries and ice cream; And (towards the end of the afternoon when laptops and netbooks emerged), Robert's 'Alfa' usb wifi amplifier which produced a strong signal so far from John's indoor system. Thanks everyone. Tony Wood (from Linux PC) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Olympus Voice Recorder: accessing files
On Sunday 15 Jul 2012 11:28:21 you wrote: Hello Tim Thank you for your response. The computer identifies the device (sudo lsusb) but I still can't see the actual files on it. Output of dmesg with device plugged in then removed is attached as a screen dump. I don't understand: ohci_hcd Important line from dmesg... [timestamp] usb 2-5: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Tony, The line above tells us that ohci_hcd recognises the device as a legitimate USB device, which is good news. ohci_hcd is part of the USB stack. Someone else may be able to provide more info on exactly how it works. After a bit of searching I found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012335 About 60% down the page it mentions the ODVR project which should be a good place to look for advice. The following link might also be helpful: http://htyp.org/Olympus_VN-480PC Good Luck, Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Ubuntu Unity Tutorial video
Hey, I finally got around to making a simple intro to the Unity desktop. Some of you may find it useful for other new users. Feedback welcome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9EHaNc2VI Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Olympus Voice Recorder: accessing files
On 15/07/12 12:10, Tim Brocklehurst wrote: On Sunday 15 Jul 2012 11:28:21 you wrote: Hello Tim Thank you for your response. The computer identifies the device (sudo lsusb) but I still can't see the actual files on it. Output of dmesg with device plugged in then removed is attached as a screen dump. I don't understand: ohci_hcd Important line from dmesg... [timestamp] usb 2-5: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Tony, The line above tells us that ohci_hcd recognises the device as a legitimate USB device, which is good news. ohci_hcd is part of the USB stack. Someone else may be able to provide more info on exactly how it works. After a bit of searching I found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012335 About 60% down the page it mentions the ODVR project which should be a good place to look for advice. The following link might also be helpful: http://htyp.org/Olympus_VN-480PC Good Luck, Tim B. Success ! I've been playing around with it since lunch finished - i.e. for a while! The program 'odvr' kept reporting that my test files were an unhandled quality (the VN-2100PC records in XHQ, HQ, SP or LP). After some experimentation I found 'odvr' works only in XHQ - not truly a problem as I never get near the limits of the device storage. So here we have a very happy bunny now able to do EVERYTHING he needs using Ubuntu 12.04 Linux. Thank you all - especially Tim - for exemplary support. Ain't Linux great! Tony Wood (from Linux PC) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Olympus digital voice recorder and Linux
Tony The trick with USB (or indeed any device) is to work out whether there's a supported driver for it, either in the kernel or as a third party one. Since you've said that a USB memory stick works okay, then it's fairly safe to assume that the correct chipset drivers are being loaded by Ubuntu for your netbook - therefore it's a case of finding a driver for the Olympus DVR. One of the quickest ways to start finding out is to get the device USB vendor and device ID from the system using the lsusb command. Run it from the command line without the DVR plugged in, then plug in the DVR and run it again, noting any differences. Hopefully there's just one additional line that will point to the ID of the DVR. Here's a sample output of lsusb from one of my PCs, I use Gentoo Linux, not Ubuntu, but hopefully you should see something fairly similar: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 14cd:8168 Super Top Bus 002 Device 006: ID 041e:403a Creative Technology, Ltd Webcam NX Pro 2 Bus 002 Device 005: ID 045e:00dd Microsoft Corp. Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 V1.0 Bus 002 Device 007: ID 045e:00d1 Microsoft Corp. Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel The important numbers are the two sets of 4 hex digits after ID that are separated by a colon which are the vendor and device IDs. e.g. 045e:00dd for my Microsoft Curve Keyboard. The trick now is to just to a Google Search with Linux kernel driver 045e 00dd and just see what info you can get from there. I use Ubuntu very little so don't know what they do with the kernel but I suspect that most drivers in their kernel are built as modules so that the appropriate ones are loaded for the detected hardware - but it could well be that due to conflicts or support only through Staging Drivers that some modules might not be available without recompiling the kernel, or maybe you just need a later kernel. But once you establish whether or not the DVR is supported, then that should lead you on to what needs to be done next. If you do want to send me the device IDs for the DVR then I will see what I can find out - also let me know what kernel version you are running from uname -a on the command line. Regards Peter On 14 July 2012 20:30, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote: On Saturday 14 Jul 2012 19:12:53 Tony Wood wrote: The only thing I can't get to work with my Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) netbook (or Ubuntu 12.04 PC) is my Olympus VN-2100PC digital voice recorder. This netbook still has a Windows 7 partition. I have to download my recorded interviews in W7, load the files onto a memory stick, then reboot into Ubuntu and transfer them. In Linux Terminal I tried: ls usb -v but the device is not even found. I'd like to remove the W7 partition altogether but want to be able to use the Olympus DVR (a present from my wife.) Has anyone found a Linux way to download sound files from a VN2100PC please? What does dmesg give you when the device is plugged/unplugged? It's unusual that an audio device doesn't just appear as mass storage. Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- *Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.* -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Olympus digital voice recorder and Linux
Thank you Peter. I'll copy the Surrey correspondence to the Hampshire list. Tony Wood (from Linux PC) On 15/07/12 22:34, Peter Andrijeczko wrote: Tony The trick with USB (or indeed any device) is to work out whether there's a supported driver for it, either in the kernel or as a third party one. Since you've said that a USB memory stick works okay, then it's fairly safe to assume that the correct chipset drivers are being loaded by Ubuntu for your netbook - therefore it's a case of finding a driver for the Olympus DVR. One of the quickest ways to start finding out is to get the device USB vendor and device ID from the system using the lsusb command. Run it from the command line without the DVR plugged in, then plug in the DVR and run it again, noting any differences. Hopefully there's just one additional line that will point to the ID of the DVR. Here's a sample output of lsusb from one of my PCs, I use Gentoo Linux, not Ubuntu, but hopefully you should see something fairly similar: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 14cd:8168 Super Top Bus 002 Device 006: ID 041e:403a Creative Technology, Ltd Webcam NX Pro 2 Bus 002 Device 005: ID 045e:00dd Microsoft Corp. Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 V1.0 Bus 002 Device 007: ID 045e:00d1 Microsoft Corp. Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel The important numbers are the two sets of 4 hex digits after ID that are separated by a colon which are the vendor and device IDs. e.g. 045e:00dd for my Microsoft Curve Keyboard. The trick now is to just to a Google Search with Linux kernel driver 045e 00dd and just see what info you can get from there. I use Ubuntu very little so don't know what they do with the kernel but I suspect that most drivers in their kernel are built as modules so that the appropriate ones are loaded for the detected hardware - but it could well be that due to conflicts or support only through Staging Drivers that some modules might not be available without recompiling the kernel, or maybe you just need a later kernel. But once you establish whether or not the DVR is supported, then that should lead you on to what needs to be done next. If you do want to send me the device IDs for the DVR then I will see what I can find out - also let me know what kernel version you are running from uname -a on the command line. Regards Peter On 14 July 2012 20:30, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org mailto:t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote: On Saturday 14 Jul 2012 19:12:53 Tony Wood wrote: The only thing I can't get to work with my Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) netbook (or Ubuntu 12.04 PC) is my Olympus VN-2100PC digital voice recorder. This netbook still has a Windows 7 partition. I have to download my recorded interviews in W7, load the files onto a memory stick, then reboot into Ubuntu and transfer them. In Linux Terminal I tried: ls usb -v but the device is not even found. I'd like to remove the W7 partition altogether but want to be able to use the Olympus DVR (a present from my wife.) Has anyone found a Linux way to download sound files from a VN2100PC please? What does dmesg give you when the device is plugged/unplugged? It's unusual that an audio device doesn't just appear as mass storage. Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk mailto:Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- /*Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.*/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Olympus digital voice recorder and Linux
Tony I've Googled the DVR model number you gave for Linux support and came to this page, but note that it's 18 months old: http://catontech.com/blog/2011/01/04/using-the-olympus-digital-voice-recorder-with-linux/ Note the Google link for the odvr project, but if you go there even that is three years out of date now due to the lead developer's DVR dying a while ago. However. it may well be that the DVR is supported in a later Linux kernel, the USB IDs will really help in determining that. Peter On 15 July 2012 22:34, Peter Andrijeczko peter.andrijec...@gmail.comwrote: Tony The trick with USB (or indeed any device) is to work out whether there's a supported driver for it, either in the kernel or as a third party one. Since you've said that a USB memory stick works okay, then it's fairly safe to assume that the correct chipset drivers are being loaded by Ubuntu for your netbook - therefore it's a case of finding a driver for the Olympus DVR. One of the quickest ways to start finding out is to get the device USB vendor and device ID from the system using the lsusb command. Run it from the command line without the DVR plugged in, then plug in the DVR and run it again, noting any differences. Hopefully there's just one additional line that will point to the ID of the DVR. Here's a sample output of lsusb from one of my PCs, I use Gentoo Linux, not Ubuntu, but hopefully you should see something fairly similar: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 14cd:8168 Super Top Bus 002 Device 006: ID 041e:403a Creative Technology, Ltd Webcam NX Pro 2 Bus 002 Device 005: ID 045e:00dd Microsoft Corp. Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 V1.0 Bus 002 Device 007: ID 045e:00d1 Microsoft Corp. Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel The important numbers are the two sets of 4 hex digits after ID that are separated by a colon which are the vendor and device IDs. e.g. 045e:00dd for my Microsoft Curve Keyboard. The trick now is to just to a Google Search with Linux kernel driver 045e 00dd and just see what info you can get from there. I use Ubuntu very little so don't know what they do with the kernel but I suspect that most drivers in their kernel are built as modules so that the appropriate ones are loaded for the detected hardware - but it could well be that due to conflicts or support only through Staging Drivers that some modules might not be available without recompiling the kernel, or maybe you just need a later kernel. But once you establish whether or not the DVR is supported, then that should lead you on to what needs to be done next. If you do want to send me the device IDs for the DVR then I will see what I can find out - also let me know what kernel version you are running from uname -a on the command line. Regards Peter On 14 July 2012 20:30, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.orgwrote: On Saturday 14 Jul 2012 19:12:53 Tony Wood wrote: The only thing I can't get to work with my Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) netbook (or Ubuntu 12.04 PC) is my Olympus VN-2100PC digital voice recorder. This netbook still has a Windows 7 partition. I have to download my recorded interviews in W7, load the files onto a memory stick, then reboot into Ubuntu and transfer them. In Linux Terminal I tried: ls usb -v but the device is not even found. I'd like to remove the W7 partition altogether but want to be able to use the Olympus DVR (a present from my wife.) Has anyone found a Linux way to download sound files from a VN2100PC please? What does dmesg give you when the device is plugged/unplugged? It's unusual that an audio device doesn't just appear as mass storage. Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- *Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.* -- *Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.* -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Olympus digital voice recorder and Linux
Tony Incidentally, the reason why USB device IDs are far more important than the make and model number is because one Linux kernel driver could support a number of devices with different USB IDs - that's why searching on the USB ID is usually the best and quickest way to find out the supported status. Peter On 15 July 2012 22:41, Peter Andrijeczko peter.andrijec...@gmail.comwrote: Tony I've Googled the DVR model number you gave for Linux support and came to this page, but note that it's 18 months old: http://catontech.com/blog/2011/01/04/using-the-olympus-digital-voice-recorder-with-linux/ Note the Google link for the odvr project, but if you go there even that is three years out of date now due to the lead developer's DVR dying a while ago. However. it may well be that the DVR is supported in a later Linux kernel, the USB IDs will really help in determining that. Peter On 15 July 2012 22:34, Peter Andrijeczko peter.andrijec...@gmail.comwrote: Tony The trick with USB (or indeed any device) is to work out whether there's a supported driver for it, either in the kernel or as a third party one. Since you've said that a USB memory stick works okay, then it's fairly safe to assume that the correct chipset drivers are being loaded by Ubuntu for your netbook - therefore it's a case of finding a driver for the Olympus DVR. One of the quickest ways to start finding out is to get the device USB vendor and device ID from the system using the lsusb command. Run it from the command line without the DVR plugged in, then plug in the DVR and run it again, noting any differences. Hopefully there's just one additional line that will point to the ID of the DVR. Here's a sample output of lsusb from one of my PCs, I use Gentoo Linux, not Ubuntu, but hopefully you should see something fairly similar: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 14cd:8168 Super Top Bus 002 Device 006: ID 041e:403a Creative Technology, Ltd Webcam NX Pro 2 Bus 002 Device 005: ID 045e:00dd Microsoft Corp. Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 V1.0 Bus 002 Device 007: ID 045e:00d1 Microsoft Corp. Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel The important numbers are the two sets of 4 hex digits after ID that are separated by a colon which are the vendor and device IDs. e.g. 045e:00dd for my Microsoft Curve Keyboard. The trick now is to just to a Google Search with Linux kernel driver 045e 00dd and just see what info you can get from there. I use Ubuntu very little so don't know what they do with the kernel but I suspect that most drivers in their kernel are built as modules so that the appropriate ones are loaded for the detected hardware - but it could well be that due to conflicts or support only through Staging Drivers that some modules might not be available without recompiling the kernel, or maybe you just need a later kernel. But once you establish whether or not the DVR is supported, then that should lead you on to what needs to be done next. If you do want to send me the device IDs for the DVR then I will see what I can find out - also let me know what kernel version you are running from uname -a on the command line. Regards Peter On 14 July 2012 20:30, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.orgwrote: On Saturday 14 Jul 2012 19:12:53 Tony Wood wrote: The only thing I can't get to work with my Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) netbook (or Ubuntu 12.04 PC) is my Olympus VN-2100PC digital voice recorder. This netbook still has a Windows 7 partition. I have to download my recorded interviews in W7, load the files onto a memory stick, then reboot into Ubuntu and transfer them. In Linux Terminal I tried: ls usb -v but the device is not even found. I'd like to remove the W7 partition altogether but want to be able to use the Olympus DVR (a present from my wife.) Has anyone found a Linux way to download sound files from a VN2100PC please? What does dmesg give you when the device is plugged/unplugged? It's unusual that an audio device doesn't just appear as mass storage. Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- *Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.* -- *Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.* -- *Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.* -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Fwd: Re: Olympus Voice Recorder: accessing files
On 15/07/12 22:34, Peter Andrijeczko wrote: Tony The trick with USB (or indeed any device) is to work out whether there's a supported driver for it, either in the kernel or as a third party one. Since you've said that a USB memory stick works okay, then it's fairly safe to assume that the correct chipset drivers are being loaded by Ubuntu for your netbook - therefore it's a case of finding a driver for the Olympus DVR. One of the quickest ways to start finding out is to get the device USB vendor and device ID from the system using the lsusb command. Run it from the command line without the DVR plugged in, then plug in the DVR and run it again, noting any differences. Hopefully there's just one additional line that will point to the ID of the DVR. Here's a sample output of lsusb from one of my PCs, I use Gentoo Linux, not Ubuntu, but hopefully you should see something fairly similar: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 14cd:8168 Super Top Bus 002 Device 006: ID 041e:403a Creative Technology, Ltd Webcam NX Pro 2 Bus 002 Device 005: ID 045e:00dd Microsoft Corp. Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 V1.0 Bus 002 Device 007: ID 045e:00d1 Microsoft Corp. Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel The important numbers are the two sets of 4 hex digits after ID that are separated by a colon which are the vendor and device IDs. e.g. 045e:00dd for my Microsoft Curve Keyboard. The trick now is to just to a Google Search with Linux kernel driver 045e 00dd and just see what info you can get from there. I use Ubuntu very little so don't know what they do with the kernel but I suspect that most drivers in their kernel are built as modules so that the appropriate ones are loaded for the detected hardware - but it could well be that due to conflicts or support only through Staging Drivers that some modules might not be available without recompiling the kernel, or maybe you just need a later kernel. But once you establish whether or not the DVR is supported, then that should lead you on to what needs to be done next. If you do want to send me the device IDs for the DVR then I will see what I can find out - also let me know what kernel version you are running from uname -a on the command line. Regards Peter On 14 July 2012 20:30, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org mailto:t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote: On Saturday 14 Jul 2012 19:12:53 Tony Wood wrote: The only thing I can't get to work with my Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) netbook (or Ubuntu 12.04 PC) is my Olympus VN-2100PC digital voice recorder. This netbook still has a Windows 7 partition. I have to download my recorded interviews in W7, load the files onto a memory stick, then reboot into Ubuntu and transfer them. In Linux Terminal I tried: ls usb -v but the device is not even found. I'd like to remove the W7 partition altogether but want to be able to use the Olympus DVR (a present from my wife.) Has anyone found a Linux way to download sound files from a VN2100PC please? What does dmesg give you when the device is plugged/unplugged? It's unusual that an audio device doesn't just appear as mass storage. Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk mailto:Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- /*Proudly not supporting Apple since 1962.*/ On 15/07/12 12:10, Tim Brocklehurst wrote: On Sunday 15 Jul 2012 11:28:21 you wrote: Hello Tim Thank you for your response. The computer identifies the device (sudo lsusb) but I still can't see the actual files on it. Output of dmesg with device plugged in then removed is attached as a screen dump. I don't understand: ohci_hcd Important line from dmesg... [timestamp] usb 2-5: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Tony, The line above tells us that ohci_hcd recognises the device as a legitimate USB device, which is good news. ohci_hcd is part of the USB stack. Someone else may be able to provide more info on exactly how it works. After a bit of searching I found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012335 About 60% down the page it mentions the ODVR project which should be a good place to look for advice. The following link might also be helpful: http://htyp.org/Olympus_VN-480PC Good Luck, Tim B. .. Subject:Re: Olympus Voice Recorder: accessing files Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:10:34 +0100 From: Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com To: Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org CC: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk, JohnW slug7...@johnwash.co.uk Success ! I've been playing
