Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Unity

2012-09-29 Thread john lewis
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:22:45 +0100
Alan Pope  wrote:

> On 28/09/12 22:27, john lewis wrote:
> > OK, I had no idea such a thing existed, I have never installed any
> > version of *buntu on any system I have owned and never actually seen
> > it running on any computer. My only knowledge of that distro is
> > from the complaints of unhappy users.
> >
> 
> "I know nothing but I'll tell everyone not to use it anyway". Nice
> work.

I wasn't exactly telling people not to use it but there do seem to be
lots of people unhappy with the way canonical have imposed "their way"
on users without giving them an (easy!) option of reverting to the
old way. (OK, that may be an exaggeration and I expect it is possible
to remove unity and run other desktops)  

Apple have always adopted the attitude that their way of doing things
is the only way and make it very difficult if not impossible to
reconfigure the look of their OS. Is that now the route Canonical
are going to follow?

I am biased towards Debian as you all know and make no apologies for
promoting the "Debian Way" A large majority of HantsLUG members were
Debian users a few years back but for some reason chose to go with the
new kid on the block. 

Some like Alan went over lock stock and barrel ;-)  

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[Hampshire] Surrey LUG Bring-a-box meeting: 13th October 2012, Red Hat (Farnborough)

2012-09-29 Thread Robert Longstaff
Hello. The next Surrey Linux User Group Bring-a-box meeting will be on 
Saturday 13th October at Red Hat offices in Farnborough, Hampshire from 
11am to 5pm.


The dedicated page for this month, including slots for adding 
talks/presentations, is here:


http://surrey.lug.org.uk/content/bab-oct-2012

... and details of how to get there are here:

http://surrey.lug.org.uk/Meetings/BringABox/RedHat

Do let the list know if you are able to provide lifts from the nearby 
stations.


Our thanks to Dominic Cleal for providing this venue.

From recent meetings and people contacting me, I have made a note of 
some subjects that members would like to hear about:


- two-factor authentication
- key-based ssh authentication
- kvm
- how to set up a wireless bridge
- create your own 'Dropbox' equivalent

If anyone is able to do a talk on one of these (or any others), just 
send a mail to the list and add it to the website - and many thanks in 
advance!


Hope to see you there.

robert_

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Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Unity

2012-09-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hello,

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 08:20:56AM +0100, john lewis wrote:
> Apple have always adopted the attitude that their way of doing things
> is the only way and make it very difficult if not impossible to
> reconfigure the look of their OS. Is that now the route Canonical
> are going to follow?
> 
> I am biased towards Debian as you all know and make no apologies for
> promoting the "Debian Way"

Very much the paramilitary wing of the Debian Republican Army..

> A large majority of HantsLUG members were Debian users a few years
> back but for some reason chose to go with the new kid on the
> block.

And they are wrong and you will keep on about it until they change
back? :)

Luckily since Debian and other distributions do exist, users still
have plenty of choice and the situation isn't really comparable to
Apple. It is in fact very easy to run Linux and all applications
that are made for Linux without using Unity or Ubuntu.

Cheers,
Andy

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[Hampshire] Wireless access next weekend

2012-09-29 Thread Chris Malton

Hi everyone,

Just a brief admin note about next weekend's meeting at the University.

If you require wireless access, as has happened in the past, please 
could you ensure you email me *off-list* with your MAC addresses to get 
them batch-registered.


The latest that I can have registrations processed is Wednesday 
afternoon - STACS will be very unhappy if I turn up Friday morning with 
the list.
To that end, please can I have your MAC addresses by *Wednesday 12 noon* 
please, so I can pass them on.


If you were registered before, I have no idea if you still are - it may 
be worth sending your address(es) again.


If you don't know your MAC address, need wireless access next Saturday, 
and need some help finding it (whatever device it may be), please ask 
for help on or off list and I'll do my best to help out.


Regards,

Chris
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